F... gas prices

[MTK]

They've gotta work the Jetta into that definition of chickenhead

[saden1]

There seems to be a big misconception about how Gas stations operate. I know a thing or two about how they work since my father and his business partner owned 5 of them and I worked for them for couple of summers. Gas stations don't make money from selling gas...they are like drug street pushers. How many street pushers you think make top dollar? If a gas station makes 5 cents per gallon sold they are doing alright. Gas stations typically make most of their money from their food market, especially the sale of Soda, Smokes, and Beer. There are some gas stations that do make a killing but this is only if there is no gas station around them that they have to compete with.

The chain to get gas from the ground to your tank has up to 6 links. Governments selling it, big gas corporations like BP, cured oil transporters, refineries, interstate refined oil transporters, and finally local transporters.

Who do you think takes the biggest cut out of every gallon you buy? Uncle Sam! That's right, your federal "child molesting" Uncle Sam takes 18.4 c/pg cut of each gallon sold. Your local "i hate you" Uncle Sam takes on average 21 c/pg cut. You think the the federal and state governments have a vested interest in reducing prices? Yes, but only because they are worried people aren't going to go out (drive) and buy other stuff.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by saden1

There seems to be a big misconception about how Gas stations operate. I know a thing or two about how they work since my father and his business partner owned 5 of them and I worked for them for couple of summers. Gas stations don't make money from selling gas...they are like drug street pushers. How many street pushers you think make top dollar? If a gas station makes 5 cents per gallon sold they are doing alright. Gas stations typically make most of their money from their food market, especially the sale of Soda, Smokes, and Beer. There are some gas stations that do make a killing but this is only if there is no gas station around them that they have to compete with.

The chain to get gas from the ground to your tank has up to 6 links. Governments selling it, big gas corporations like BP, cured oil transporters, refineries, interstate refined oil transporters, and finally local transporters.

Who do you think takes the biggest cut out of every gallon you buy? Uncle Sam! That's right, your federal "child molesting" Uncle Sam takes 18.4 c/pg cut of each gallon sold. Your local "i hate you" Uncle Sam takes on average 21 c/pg cut. You think the the federal and state governments have a vested interest in reducing prices? Yes, but only because they are worried people aren't going to go out (drive) and buy other stuff.

Good info...

I really don't have a problem w/ the gov't taxing gas. It's not the gov't that sets these $4/gallon prices. The gov't most likely charges a certain %, why should the gov't lower their tax when the oil companies are raising their prices. The oil co's would get richer and the gov't poorer if the gov't just decided to cut it's gas tax.

I don't pretend to know all there is about the price of gas, but i don't blame the gov't as much as i do the oil co's.

[MTK]

Overnight the price of gas at my local station went from $3.76 to $3.85

WTF!

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Overnight the price of gas at my local station went from $3.76 to $3.85

WTF!

Yesterday, gas prices rose .10 while I was at work. I feel like I should top off every morning (I have 70 mile round trip commute) b/c the longer I wait to fill up, the more the prices go up.

[Hog1]

I gotta' be more alert when reading the re-hash threads! I nearly had a stroke at $2.60 p/gal gas.
Soooooo, I guess gas will not be going down this summer??????

[Hog1]

I'm afraid to tank up my diesel. I'ts been $4+ for a while

[steveo395]

They need to drill for more oil in America. We have plenty of it, but for some reason we're not allowed to, even though our economy needs it really bad and alternative sources are still pretty far away.

[Hog1]

There is a small contingent of people in this area who have a process to refine the cast off grease from the fast food restaurants and other sources to make deisel. I am sure it is not unique technology. Something that can be set up by almost anybody. Apparently it is not to expensive to get started, (although maybe a hassle) and something on the order of 50 cents a gallon to refine. Interesting.............

[BDBohnzie]

Can You Run Your Car On Biodiesel - Biomass

Biodiesel is very popular among environmentalists, and others willing to do what it takes to convert their cars to run on the stuff. There are home kits you can buy that will turn your waste oil into biodiesel fuel...

[hesscl34]

This just came up on my news board... ha ha ha..

FINANCE - Old gas pumps can't handle ever-rising prices - Top News - Comcast.net

[mooby]

Back when I was still driving gas prices were at 2.95-3.00ish and I thought they were raping me lol, now all the pumps in my area are selling for around 3.69 as of yesterday lol. I wish we were back in the days when you could get a gallon for like 2.50.

[dmek25]

i don't think im that old, and can remember gas for about .60, or so

[Monkeydad]

Well, the Senate voted AGAIN to keep us dependant on foreign oil.

President Bush is leaving Israel to go speak to the Saudis about oil prices, not that they'll listen or feel sorry for us.




Newsmax.com - Senate Blocks ANWR Oil Exploration



Senate Blocks ANWR Oil Exploration

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 3:17 PM

By: E. Ralph Hostetter Article Font Size






The U.S. Senate voted on Tuesday, May 13, to block oil exploration in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) and the offshore areas of the Pacific and Atlantic coasts.

It is indeed remarkable how quickly the U.S. Senate can organize a negative vote when the issue is of such magnitude and importance to the economy and welfare of the nation.

To reverse the damage this vote has done to America’s energy independence will take months of endless hearings, making certain that every dissident is heard.

The National Center for Policy Analysis also on Tuesday, identified the U.S. Congress as the responsible party for the high price of gasoline and summed it up in this manner: “Over the last 28 years, Democrats in Congress and a few Republicans have again and again opposed our drilling for oil in Alaska’s ANWR; during the past 31 years Congress has repeatedly prevented us from building any new oil refineries; most recently congressional Democrats defeated and discouraged any bill that would let us drill in the deep sea, 100 miles out.”

Equally damaging to energy independence is the envirocrat crowd who manage to capture the moral high ground of environmental issues and use it to advance their own political agenda.


The dominant media has a stable of such envirocrats ready at the call to make statements that for some reason or other seem to be accepted at face value by the Democrat majority and a few Republicans in Congress.

The Daily News-Miner of Fairbanks, Alaska, was quick to find such a person, and in an interview, reporter R.A. Dillon quoted Arctic Coordinator for the Northern Alaska Environmental Center Pam Miller as saying the vote against drilling in ANWR was a resounding show of support for protecting the refuge for future generations.


That’s it. That’s all it takes to intimidate the majority in Congress for the foreseeable future.


No recognition is given to how little of the ANWR reserve is brought into play for the entire development of the oil drilling site that would yield 1 million barrels of oil a day from its billions of barrels in reserve.

The footprint, so to speak, that is necessary for full development of a drilling operation to deliver the 1 million barrels is a mere 2,000 acres.

This tiny footprint represents one one-hundred thousandths (0.0001) of the total area of ANWR's 19 million acres. This is equivalent to one large farm in a state about the size of South Carolina.

Procedures used in modern day development of oil fields are environmentally safe and have been accepted as such.

Apparently all the presidential candidates have expressed their opposition to development of ANWR.

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., announced on May 13 that he had missed the vote in the U.S. Senate, but had he been there, he would have voted against further exploration in ANWR.

It would appear as though the majority of present day politicians have no concept of the energy source of 90 percent of America's transport vehicles.

In recent years they seem content to joust with windmills and chase ethanol rainbows.

Their ethanol dream has contributed to the destabilization of grain markets around the world. Some nations that were exporters of grain, especially rice, have now stopped the practice.

Food riots, in some instances causing death, are shown daily in TV news broadcasts.

Subsidies supporting the continued expansion of ethanol production remain in play.

The mandate of Congress to produce more billions of gallons of ethanol by the year 2020 is still on the books.

Crude oil topped $127 per barrel this week.

In January 2001, President George W. Bush was sworn into the office. The price of oil at that time was about $30 per barrel.

Today, petroleum is more than four times that figure. Gasoline prices are over $4 per gallon in many parts of the country.

Those who talked about $4 gasoline some months ago are now elevating their sights to $5 per gallon and above.

Americans usually react only when they are being hurt to a point where they alone are feeling the pain.

The average citizen may be approaching that point today. Only then will that citizen demand in no uncertain terms that the U.S. Congress do its job to establish energy independence using our own abundant resources.

The struggle for energy independence led by the Congressional minority meets road block after road block from the Democrat leadership in Congress.

House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., will offer their own energy package later this week.

Their energy packet makes no reference to the production of more oil and gas; instead, it is designed to punish the very companies that do provide our energy. The reason they give is simply this: these companies are making large profits.

Their energy plan will provide for the introduction of a windfall profits tax designed to confiscate the oil company profits. This new tax will no doubt be used by these far left zealots for their own political gain, no doubt for social programs to buy votes in the upcoming elections.

The oil companies must preserve these profits which are desperately needed at the present to build new refineries and to develop new oil fields when the next and hopefully more energy-wise Congress is elected

[Monkeydad]

Also, here in my part of PA, gas jumped from $3.599 to $3.799 in a week!