How Long For Brunell?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

The last quarter maybe but not the first three, and that's what I was refering too, the first three quarters, pitiful. Now if you would kill for those first three, maybe we should never win another game.

Obviously I wouldn't kill just for the first 3 quarters and, yeah, I knew that you were referring to those first 3 quarters as pitiful. But I want the entire game to be replayed. I really liked watching those jubiliant Cowboys fans sulk and cry when we took the game from them in the last few minutes. That was some funny stuff. Whenever I get pissed or upset, I just watch that game and see the expression on fans' faces after Moss scores the second TD. Hilarious stuff my friend.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Don't get me wrong, I love Favre and I think the football world will be worse off when he hangs it up. But to claim a quarterbacks' skills don't deteriorate with age is a little unrealistic.

Physically skills yes...the mental game, no way! Farve had some pretty good receivers to throw to during the Pac's glory years...not taking away from Farve, but I believe when you have confidence in your receivers, it lifts the QB's play that much more. Farve is playing on the offense by himself.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by offiss

Brunell is not only scared of contact he's afraid of the potential for contact so he anticipates it even when it's not there, and that's why he has happy feet and jumps out of the pocket when no pressure is present.

#1: That is what QB is supposed to do, anticipate pressure -- it's called awareness.

Secondly, Ramsey was the king of happy dancing feet, so don't even go there.

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

His ass should have should have been gone in 2004, last year was a fluke. We went to the playoffs in spite of him last not because of him. Damn you see his old ass legs go out of under him trying to run out of bounds monday. Gibbs for some unknown reason is willing to sink his reputation with this has been. I hope i'm wrong but i dont thinks so. He didnt do anything to lose but he sure as hell didnt do anything to help win the game just one scramble, that why i thought we had in there for was for his great mobility. Damn that arm look weak its really sad,but hey at least he can throw a screen pass or out of bounds.

[SmootSmack]

Brunell still has the arm, he showed it on the last drive. 2004 was the fluke

[CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR]

we will see i hope your right but i wouldnt bet on it. Listen were all skins fans but maybe i have stop drinking the Danny Coolaid, i have seen the real world

[skinsguy]

Brunell helped us get back to the playoffs last year. I think I'll take my chances with him for now until I see that our team is sitting home watching the playoffs.

[LadyT]

Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

0 interceptions 0 sacks...he didn't lose the game, poor play calling and defensive play did

No, he alone didn't lose the game, but he rarely wins games either. Face it, his glory days are long gone. He's a QB who seems capable of only throwing dink passes, he hears footsteps that aren't there, and he immediately gets rid of the ball if his primary receiver is covered. All this adds up to an offense that will struggle to score TDs as long as he is behind center.

He's the main reason why we've had to rely so heavily on the Defense to have any decent chance at winning games. He's the main reason why this offense rarely scores more than 15 to 17 points each game.

We have a slew of talented receivers, but all that talent don't mean a thing if you have a QB who can't seem to complete a pass beyond 10 yards. Yeah, once in a while he does manage to complete one downfield, but that's the definite exception, not the rule. So, what you saw from him Monday night is what you're going to get and it ain't pretty.

Everyone's angry at Hall for missing the 48 yard field goal. But, if it weren't for Hall's other 3 field goals, the game wouldn't have even been close!!!!!

A starting offense that's only managed to score 1 lousy TD in 4 preseason and 1 regular season games? Unbelievable.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

#1: That is what QB is supposed to do, anticipate pressure -- it's called awareness.

Secondly, Ramsey was the king of happy dancing feet, so don't even go there.

I will go there any time I feel like it!

Obviously your hung up on who knows what and can't seperate the two. But I will do it for you, Ramsey regardless of happy feet would hang in the pocket and take the hit to complete the pass, unlike Brunell, who if you could comprehend anything would understand that anticipating a sack when no one is there is not what a QB is supposed to do, unfortuantly that's what Brunell does, that is why he throws it to the first reciever he see's whether or not he's far enough downfield for a first, or he throws it away. That fear also doesn't allow him to continue to check down on his progressions to possibly throw to a third or 4th reciever because he's to worried about being hit, you cannot play QB in the NFL if your worried about being hit, that fear wont allow you to be successeful. That is why the Jags were going to release him and we haven't seen anything different, he was throwing off his back leg all night against the Viks.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

His ass should have should have been gone in 2004, last year was a fluke. We went to the playoffs in spite of him last not because of him. Damn you see his old ass legs go out of under him trying to run out of bounds monday. Gibbs for some unknown reason is willing to sink his reputation with this has been. I hope i'm wrong but i dont thinks so. He didnt do anything to lose but he sure as hell didnt do anything to help win the game just one scramble, that why i thought we had in there for was for his great mobility. Damn that arm look weak its really sad,but hey at least he can throw a screen pass or out of bounds.

Nice job with that CHIEF! I am adding you to my click!

[cowboykiller89]

Originally Posted by LadyT

No, he alone didn't lose the game, but he rarely wins games either. Face it, his glory days are long gone. He's a QB who seems capable of only throwing dink passes, he hears footsteps that aren't there, and he immediately gets rid of the ball if his primary receiver is covered. All this adds up to an offense that will struggle to score TDs as long as he is behind center.

He's the main reason why we've had to rely so heavily on the Defense to have any decent chance at winning games. He's the main reason why this offense rarely scores more than 15 to 17 points each game.

We have a slew of talented receivers, but all that talent don't mean a thing if you have a QB who can't seem to complete a pass beyond 10 yards. Yeah, once in a while he does manage to complete one downfield, but that's the definite exception, not the rule. So, what you saw from him Monday night is what you're going to get and it ain't pretty.

Everyone's angry at Hall for missing the 48 yard field goal. But, if it weren't for Hall's other 3 field goals, the game wouldn't have even been close!!!!!

A starting offense that's only managed to score 1 lousy TD in 4 preseason and 1 regular season games? Unbelievable.

As far as I am concerned, Mark Brunell won the most important and the most memorable game of all, last year in Dallas to break the painful losing streak we had with the Cowgirls! Not only that, he lead the way in their second meeting at FedEx Field, a critical game which was important to both teams. Needless to say, you know the outcome. Give him some more respect! I think Joe Gibbs and Al Saunders know a little more than you do when it comes to deciding on who should be the starter!

[DynamiteRave]

So for the people who believe Brunell's way past his prime (which in my opinion isn't too far from the truth), who would you all be interested in seeing at QB that you believe could finally carry the team to a Super Bowl or at least deep into the playoffs?

And for the folks who think Brunell is capable of helping to carry the team, whats stopping us from actually gelling together?

[cowboykiller89]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

So for the people who believe Brunell's way past his prime (which in my opinion isn't too far from the truth), who would you all be interested in seeing at QB that you believe could finally carry the team to a Super Bowl or at least deep into the playoffs?

And for the folks who think Brunell is capable of helping to carry the team, whats stopping us from actually gelling together?

I believe Mark Brunell can and will do it under this new offensive philosophy. Besides Joe Theismann, what other star Quarterbacks did we ever have? None, but we still managed to win two more Superbowls with two other semi-satisfactory quarterbacks (Mark Rypien and Doug Williams). It's not always about the quarterback people, you can't lay the entire burden on Mark, it was the team who dropped the bomb, the defense allowing 3rd down conversions over and over again, the dropped td catch by Santana Moss in the end zone after a perfect pass from Mark, the missed field goal by John Hall, the two 15 yard penalties by Sean Taylor, etc, etc.....

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

Look, we did not run the ball well at all, and that really makes it harder to throw..

And we never will be able to run the ball throwing swing passes... and 5 yard passes ...thats was all game!!! ask yourself this??? how would u defend the redskins...i would shorten everything and bring a safety..... hell ya know they wont challenge us deep... i saw several interviews on tv where it was said the redskins need to open it up and take shots down field... Well until we do Portis will continue to get beat up.... If brunell doesnt have the 1st receiver open he throws it away immediately.... its pathetic... if he is afraid of contact...he should be a punter....

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by CHIEF CHUCKING MY SPEAR

His ass should have should have been gone in 2004, last year was a fluke. We went to the playoffs in spite of him last not because of him. Damn you see his old ass legs go out of under him trying to run out of bounds monday. Gibbs for some unknown reason is willing to sink his reputation with this has been. I hope i'm wrong but i dont thinks so. He didnt do anything to lose but he sure as hell didnt do anything to help win the game just one scramble, that why i thought we had in there for was for his great mobility. Damn that arm look weak its really sad,but hey at least he can throw a screen pass or out of bounds.

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