Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made?

offiss · 10-21-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

if we are going to lose, lets do it in a year when we have our own #1 draft pick

Yes and no, I can only imagine what we would do with that pick and it ain't good. No one understands how to attack the draft in the organization.

Oakland Red · 10-21-2006, 05:41 PM

I know Brunell can play at a high level, and he has shown it this year. We are learning a new offense, and it is very difficult to make it work smoothly on the field sometimes. Like Tony Dungy said, sometimes it looks very sharp and effective and other times opportunities are being missed for big plays. Gibbs is right that the quarterback play is not what the problem is, and two other anonymous NFL personnel people agreed as noted in a recent article.

Another factor is that we have had a strong defense to rely on the last two years and now the offense has to be perhaps the main tent pole holding things up, yet the offense has all the new plays to learn and the new players to integrate. It is a tough time right now if you are expecting wins every weekend.

However, I think that you have to be open to putting Jason Campbell in as the starter this season. The key is that you don't put him in unless Brunell gives you the second best chance to win the game. I believe that players have to play themselves out of a job, or someone has to be a better player to deserve to start instead of them. That way players know that their effort and performance are what determines who plays, and not arbitrary decision making. Only by basing it on performance do players have the right motivation to play at their best.

Campbell could provide a spark and an intangible lift because he is young and perceived as the future starter. He has had a chance to watch and observe. He won't have the experience or savvy of Brunell, but he brings a lot of talent and intelligence to the table, and at some point he may give the team a lift enough that playing him will give us a better chance to win than Brunell.

It may indeed happen that the call is made soon:

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pl...ne=77667&spln=1

ESPN.com reports that the Redskins are preparing to make a switch to Jason Campbell "sooner rather than later."
Washington are staring a 2-5 record in the face unless they beat Indianapolis Sunday. Then they have a bye week, a logical time to make the choice. Forward thinking owners in 2-QB leagues might want to make a move now. Oct. 20 - 5:16 pm et
Source: ESPN.com Insider

Crat92 · 10-21-2006, 05:48 PM

What if Gibbs waits until we are mathematically eliminated to put in Campbell, and he sets the league on fire? The "why didn't you put Campbell in sooner" questions will start flyin' And that would be a huge thread! As far as Roethlisberger goes, he wasn't all that great abyway! Pitts. did not ask him to do much in terms of having to "win" a game. Pitt. played D and ran the ball. Big Ben only threw maybe 15 times a game during that stretch. HAIL from MCUSA!

railcon56 · 10-22-2006, 06:49 PM

When Pigs Fly!!!!

jdlea · 10-22-2006, 06:57 PM

I'm pretty sure they don't pull Brunell because even at 2-5 somehow it won't be obvious that the season is done. There will be no 8 and 1 finish for them. They're a bad football team. However, Gibbs said yesterday he doesn't think pulling Brunell would help, so as long as he thinks that, he's gonna leave him in. That makes me think we might not see Campbell this season. I think Joe is smarter than that, but we'll see.

steveo395 · 10-22-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

I'm pretty sure they don't pull Brunell because even at 2-5 somehow it won't be obvious that the season is done. There will be no 8 and 1 finish for them. They're a bad football team. However, Gibbs said yesterday he doesn't think pulling Brunell would help, so as long as he thinks that, he's gonna leave him in. That makes me think we might not see Campbell this season. I think Joe is smarter than that, but we'll see.

he was 3-6 when gibbs pulled him in '04

now we're 2-5, which is worse, and we have a bye next week...this is the perfect time to get this bum out of here

TheFunBunch79 · 10-22-2006, 08:21 PM

I am really surprised by that comment!

Why does Gibbs like Brunell so fricken much?

I mean Brunell has great hair but c'mon, you know?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-22-2006, 08:16 PM

Did anyone catch Gibbs' postgame comments where he said he didn't even "want to think about [starting Campbell]" and that Brunell played great?

Pocket$ $traight · 10-22-2006, 08:35 PM

When they are mathematically eliminated....maybe.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-22-2006, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

When they are mathematically eliminated....maybe.

Maybe????? What possible reason could you have for saying that Brunell shouldn't be benched when we are mathematically eliminated? He's 36 and certainly isn't part of our future.

Pocket$ $traight · 10-22-2006, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Maybe????? What possible reason could you have for saying that Brunell shouldn't be benched when we are mathematically eliminated? He's 36 and certainly isn't part of our future.

Sheriff, you are arguing with the wrong person chief. If I was running the team, I would have ditched Brunell after year one.

I am saying that Gibbs may replace Brunell once they are mathematically eliminated. No sooner and he may even let the bible thumper finish the season.

I know this much. Jesus Christ can throw a 25 yard post....

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-22-2006, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Sheriff, you are arguing with the wrong person chief. If I was running the team, I would have ditched Brunell after year one.

I am saying that Gibbs may replace Brunell once they are mathematically eliminated. No sooner and he may even let the bible thumper finish the season.

I know this much. Jesus Christ can throw a 25 yard post....

Oh, okay. I was about to have a stroke.

CPDAMAN · 10-22-2006, 10:17 PM

You are right about they are not playing well, but thats hind site. His time will come, unless we have a miracle.

atomicnixon · 10-22-2006, 10:23 PM

I don't know, Steve Spurrier had better records up until that last 5-11 season. Today's Redskins will be lucky if they win 4.

mheisig · 10-23-2006, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Maybe????? What possible reason could you have for saying that Brunell shouldn't be benched when we are mathematically eliminated? He's 36 and certainly isn't part of our future.

I believe the question was when WILL JC be benched, not when SHOULD he be benched.

10-21-2006, 05:41 PM	#2
Oakland Red Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, Calif. Posts: 268	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? I know Brunell can play at a high level, and he has shown it this year. We are learning a new offense, and it is very difficult to make it work smoothly on the field sometimes. Like Tony Dungy said, sometimes it looks very sharp and effective and other times opportunities are being missed for big plays. Gibbs is right that the quarterback play is not what the problem is, and two other anonymous NFL personnel people agreed as noted in a recent article. Another factor is that we have had a strong defense to rely on the last two years and now the offense has to be perhaps the main tent pole holding things up, yet the offense has all the new plays to learn and the new players to integrate. It is a tough time right now if you are expecting wins every weekend. However, I think that you have to be open to putting Jason Campbell in as the starter this season. The key is that you don't put him in unless Brunell gives you the second best chance to win the game. I believe that players have to play themselves out of a job, or someone has to be a better player to deserve to start instead of them. That way players know that their effort and performance are what determines who plays, and not arbitrary decision making. Only by basing it on performance do players have the right motivation to play at their best. Campbell could provide a spark and an intangible lift because he is young and perceived as the future starter. He has had a chance to watch and observe. He won't have the experience or savvy of Brunell, but he brings a lot of talent and intelligence to the table, and at some point he may give the team a lift enough that playing him will give us a better chance to win than Brunell. It may indeed happen that the call is made soon: http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pl...ne=77667&spln=1 ESPN.com reports that the Redskins are preparing to make a switch to Jason Campbell "sooner rather than later." Washington are staring a 2-5 record in the face unless they beat Indianapolis Sunday. Then they have a bye week, a logical time to make the choice. Forward thinking owners in 2-QB leagues might want to make a move now. Oct. 20 - 5:16 pm et Source: ESPN.com Insider

10-21-2006, 05:48 PM	#3
Crat92 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nashville,TN Age: 52 Posts: 474	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? What if Gibbs waits until we are mathematically eliminated to put in Campbell, and he sets the league on fire? The "why didn't you put Campbell in sooner" questions will start flyin' And that would be a huge thread! As far as Roethlisberger goes, he wasn't all that great abyway! Pitts. did not ask him to do much in terms of having to "win" a game. Pitt. played D and ran the ball. Big Ben only threw maybe 15 times a game during that stretch. HAIL from MCUSA! __________________ BEWARE THE MIDDLE............LaRON LANDRY IS LURKING!

10-22-2006, 06:49 PM	#4
railcon56 Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 922	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? When Pigs Fly!!!! __________________ Run or Pass and Score ..We Want Alot More!!!!

10-22-2006, 06:57 PM	#5
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 41 Posts: 3,109	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? I'm pretty sure they don't pull Brunell because even at 2-5 somehow it won't be obvious that the season is done. There will be no 8 and 1 finish for them. They're a bad football team. However, Gibbs said yesterday he doesn't think pulling Brunell would help, so as long as he thinks that, he's gonna leave him in. That makes me think we might not see Campbell this season. I think Joe is smarter than that, but we'll see.

10-22-2006, 08:21 PM	#7
TheFunBunch79 Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Cumberland, Maryland Posts: 35	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? I am really surprised by that comment! Why does Gibbs like Brunell so fricken much? I mean Brunell has great hair but c'mon, you know?

10-22-2006, 08:16 PM	#8
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? Did anyone catch Gibbs' postgame comments where he said he didn't even "want to think about [starting Campbell]" and that Brunell played great?

10-22-2006, 08:35 PM	#9
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 50 Posts: 4,261	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? When they are mathematically eliminated....maybe.

10-22-2006, 10:17 PM	#13
CPDAMAN Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 40	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? You are right about they are not playing well, but thats hind site. His time will come, unless we have a miracle.

10-22-2006, 10:23 PM	#14
atomicnixon Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2006 Age: 40 Posts: 174	Re: Jason Campbell: when will the switch be made? I don't know, Steve Spurrier had better records up until that last 5-11 season. Today's Redskins will be lucky if they win 4.

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