Norv Turner Era: Success or Failure?

Longtimefan · 02-05-2007, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Here's a comment I made in my Internet column today about the Cowboys' coaching search:

With all the attention and focus on the Cowboys’ coaching search, there is an obvious solution to filling their vacancy – but it is one fraught with danger for the league. Jerry Jones could name himself as the coach of the Cowboys. Hey, George Halas and Paul Brown were rather successful “owner/coaches”; Al Davis coached the Raiders for a while and he’s the moral equivalent of an “owner”. Jones is already the Cowboys’ owner, CEO, President and GM; he spends half the game on the sidelines anyway; he played college football; he can certainly do well in the job interview event. It’s a way to increase the team’s profitability since he won’t need to pay a head coach something in the neighborhood of $4-5M per year. And can he really do that much worse than Dave Campo did?

Here’s the danger for the league… If he does this and the team breaks even next year, it will set up a grand machismo situation for other owners. Follow this line of thought. Hey, if JJ can do it – and Al Davis did it before – why can’t I do it too? It’ll mean more face time for me on TV and if the team wins I won’t have to share the spotlight with some flunky that I was smart enough to hire in the first place; all that jamoke did was do what I paid him millions of dollars to do. And with that thinking – I can’t bring myself to call it reasoning – you could see Danny Boy Snyder prowling the sidelines for the Washington Redskins. Talk about putting one of the longstanding franchises into a tailspin…

Trying to imagine this senerio becoming a reality. I would give anything to see Jerry Jones on the sidelines trying to coach TO. I have a feeling his love connection with his beloved wideout would quickly unravel. It would certainly be worth the price of admission just to witness.

As for Norv, I agree with most who think he was better suited as as OC as opposed to HC.

vaoutlaws2006 · 01-31-2007, 09:50 AM

to many could haves, would haves, and should haves and mostly too much snyder to call it a success or failure.

Hog1 · 01-31-2007, 10:30 AM

I'm still pissed about letting S. Davis and B. Johnson get away

hail_2_da_skins · 01-31-2007, 11:06 AM

Norv Turner is a very good offensive coordinator. He was not a good head coach for the Washington Redskins. His team seemed rudderless. lacked discipline, showed no emotion and could not close out an opponent. He built a good offense but his defense was neglected. I had a feeling that he did not have the respect of his team. That was most evident when Dan Snyder chewed him out after an embarrasing lost and team did not support Turner.

Turner had success when Marvin Lewis was the defensive coordinator. Turner may be a decent head coach if he has a strong defensive coordinator handling the defensive side of the ball.

SmootSmack · 01-31-2007, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

Norv Turner is a very good offensive coordinator. He was not a good head coach for the Washington Redskins. His team seemed rudderless. lacked discipline, showed no emotion and could not close out an opponent. He built a good offense but his defense was neglected. I had a feeling that he did not have the respect of his team. That was most evident when Dan Snyder chewed him out after an embarrasing lost and team did not support Turner.

Turner had success when Marvin Lewis was the defensive coordinator. Turner may be a decent head coach if he has a strong defensive coordinator handling the defensive side of the ball.

When was Marvin Lewis the defensive coordinator for Turner? And for all his "genius" Turner really didn't do all that much (from what I recall) as OC of the Dolphins and Chargers

Hog1 · 01-31-2007, 11:58 AM

Norv's time in the sun is gone with the Boys of the 1990's. As Tafkas stated, he has not had much success since. Is it not interesting, that JJ thinks he can re-kindle what is gone.................sorry bout' that.......I don't see it. Without the supporting cast, Norv is not enough to carry it

irish · 01-31-2007, 11:59 AM

Lewis was the D coordinator for OBC. Norv is the best of the post 1995 redskins caoches by a mile and that says a lot because he was not that great.

ncskinsfanec · 01-31-2007, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

Lewis was the D coordinator for OBC. Norv is the best of the post 1995 redskins caoches by a mile and that says a lot because he was not that great.

Is he better than the guy we have now? What's his name, oh yeah, Gibbs I think.

irish · 02-02-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ncskinsfanec

Is he better than the guy we have now? What's his name, oh yeah, Gibbs I think.

Is he better than the Joe Gibbs that coached this team in the 80s, I dont think so. Is he better than the Joe Gibbs coaching the team now, it seems as if he might be.

GTripp0012 · 02-02-2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

Is he better than the Joe Gibbs that coached this team in the 80s, I dont think so. Is he better than the Joe Gibbs coaching the team now, it seems as if he might be.

He's the same guy.

irish · 02-03-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

He's the same guy.

No he's not.

ncskinsfanec · 02-02-2007, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

Is he better than the Joe Gibbs that coached this team in the 80s, I dont think so. Is he better than the Joe Gibbs coaching the team now, it seems as if he might be.

Give me a break! You can't tell me with a staight face that Norv Turner is better than Joe Gibbs under any circumstances, not even as an offensive coordinator.

irish · 02-03-2007, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ncskinsfanec

Give me a break! You can't tell me with a staight face that Norv Turner is better than Joe Gibbs under any circumstances, not even as an offensive coordinator.

At this moment in time I think Norv and Joe are about equal. I never thought I'd say that but Joe just does not have it in today's NFL.

MTK · 01-31-2007, 01:58 PM

To me the '96 and '97 seasons summed up the entire Turner era.

Talented teams on the brink but both seasons they just blew opportunity after opportunity. Especially in '96 after a 7-1 start... stumbling to a 9-7 finish. That was probably the most disappointing season I've ever witnessed.

irish · 01-31-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

To me the '96 and '97 seasons summed up the entire Turner era.

Talented teams on the brink but both seasons they just blew opportunity after opportunity. Especially in '96 after a 7-1 start... stumbling to a 9-7 finish. That was probably the most disappointing season I've ever witnessed.

Were you sleeping through this past season? LOL

01-31-2007, 09:50 AM	#2
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Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Norv Turner Era: Success or Failure? I'm still pissed about letting S. Davis and B. Johnson get away __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

01-31-2007, 11:06 AM	#4
hail_2_da_skins Impact Rookie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 70 Posts: 868	Re: Norv Turner Era: Success or Failure? Norv Turner is a very good offensive coordinator. He was not a good head coach for the Washington Redskins. His team seemed rudderless. lacked discipline, showed no emotion and could not close out an opponent. He built a good offense but his defense was neglected. I had a feeling that he did not have the respect of his team. That was most evident when Dan Snyder chewed him out after an embarrasing lost and team did not support Turner. Turner had success when Marvin Lewis was the defensive coordinator. Turner may be a decent head coach if he has a strong defensive coordinator handling the defensive side of the ball. __________________ "HAIL TO THE SKINS"

01-31-2007, 11:58 AM	#6
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Norv Turner Era: Success or Failure? Norv's time in the sun is gone with the Boys of the 1990's. As Tafkas stated, he has not had much success since. Is it not interesting, that JJ thinks he can re-kindle what is gone.................sorry bout' that.......I don't see it. Without the supporting cast, Norv is not enough to carry it __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

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irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Re: Norv Turner Era: Success or Failure? Lewis was the D coordinator for OBC. Norv is the best of the post 1995 redskins caoches by a mile and that says a lot because he was not that great.

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MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Norv Turner Era: Success or Failure? To me the '96 and '97 seasons summed up the entire Turner era. Talented teams on the brink but both seasons they just blew opportunity after opportunity. Especially in '96 after a 7-1 start... stumbling to a 9-7 finish. That was probably the most disappointing season I've ever witnessed. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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