Brady's Bedtime Buddies

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I love Santana but he's not Randy Moss. Let's try and keep it real around here.

Read the whole conversation. I am not doubting Randy. I merely said that they are two compleetly different types of receivers. I am probably more of a Randy advocate than either of you. If you don't believe me then look at the arguement that I had with Jsarno last night on the "Patriots' passing game: great or not?" thread.

[djnemo65]

Talent is not an issue with this team but the only thing I worry about is this: they are entering the season as such overwhelming favorites they are going to face pressure which they have not in previous seasons. They have always excelled as the scrappy underdogs who don't get enough respect, whether improbably beating the Rams, dominating an Indy team who got all the regular season attention, or going into Pittsburgh and knocking off a 15 win team. Even last year was in many ways a rebuilding year for them. Certainly no one gave them a shot against the Chargers in the playoffs.

Let's see how they do.

But the one guy I wouldn't worry about is Moss. He is going do some special things this season.

[KLHJ2]

Look at their stats since 2003 Santanna has a higher ypc AVG and more rececptions for more than 20 and 40 yards. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Once again I am not saying that Santanna is better, but that he has a different skill set.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by angryssg

Look at their stats since 2003 Santanna has a higher ypc AVG and more rececptions for more than 20 and 40 yards. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Once again I am not saying that Santanna is better, but that he has a different skill set.

You are 1000% wrong. Once again someone misuses stats to argue a bogus point.

Have you ever seen Randy Moss play when he is healthy? I ask a stupid question because the only way you can continue to argue this is if you say, "No".

Did John Madden say "just chuck it up there dog" to describe Santana Moss?

If you really believe what you are spewing, God help you.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

You are 1000% wrong. Once again someone misuses stats to argue a bogus point.

Have you ever seen Randy Moss play when he is healthy? I ask a stupid question because the only way you can continue to argue this is if you say, "No".

It's not a bogus point. Let me keep it simple for you.

Randy Moss= Go deep and jump for ball, catch ball.

Santanna Moss= Short route, catch ball, then run with ball.

Two different types of player!

[dmek25]

how did this thread last so long without a picture of the 2 beautiful women? thats right, hessy and ladybrave. you guys thought i was talking about someone else?

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by dmek25

how did this thread last so long without a picture of the 2 beautiful women? thats right, hessy and ladybrave. you guys thought i was talking about someone else?

Did he knock them up too?

[Defensewins]

I am a Big fan of watching really well played football.
There are a few unknowns that has me interested to see how the Pat's will play:
1) In his entire career, Tom Brady has never thrown to as good a receivers as R. Moss & D.Stallworth and TE's Ben Watson and Kyle Brady.

2) Likewise, Randy Moss has never played with a Qb as good as Brady and never played on an offense as loaded as the Pat's.

3) Adding TE as Kyle Brady as a second TE gives the offense great flexibility and a good change of pace to be able to play two good TE's at same time.

4) Nobody talks about Laurence Maroney, but he may be the biggest beneficiary and have a break out year.

5) The defense is talented and deep. The last reamining weakness they had on defense was depth at safety. They addressed it in a big way with drafting U of Miami FS Brandon Meriweather. He was one the best safeties in college football in 2006. Versatile safety who stood out at safety and cornerback at Miami.

Anything can happen. It should be interesting to watch.

REDSKINS will still be my team. But I will also watch the Pats in 2007.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

I am a Big fan of watching really well played football.
There are a few unknowns that has me interested to see how the Pat's will play:
1) In his entire career, Tom Brady has never thrown to as good a receivers as R. Moss & D.Stallworth and TE's Ben Watson and Kyle Brady.

2) Likewise, Randy Moss has never played with a Qb as good as Brady and never played on an offense as loaded as the Pat's.

3) Adding TE as Kyle Brady as a second TE gives the offense great flexibility and a good change of pace to be able to play two good TE's at same time.

4) Nobody talks about Laurence Maroney, but he may be the biggest beneficiary and have a break out year.

5) The defense is talented and deep. The last reamining weakness they had on defense was depth at safety. They addressed it in a big way with drafting U of Miami FS Brandon Meriweather. He was one the best safeties in college football in 2006. Versatile safety who stood out at safety and cornerback at Miami.

Anything can happen. It should be interesting to watch.

REDSKINS will still be my team. But I will also watch the Pats in 2007.

Their back 7 is still pretty problematic. Rodney Harrison was a great player, but who knows what they are getting now? If Merriweather has to contribute as a rookie, things could get brutal. Samuel is good, but probably a bit overrated. Ellis Hobbs?

Their LBs are old too. Colvin is getting up there. Bruschi and Vrabel are getting up there. Adailus Thomas was a 30 year old last year, and they invested a lot in him.

The Pats are certainly a solid SB pick, but like every team, they have their holes.

[bigm29]

I agree with everything except for moss. No reciever, and i mean no reciever could have had a great season with the raiders the last two years. Randy did not want to play there and was not trying. People are gonna see this season why he is indeed THE BEST RECEIVER IN THE NFL. thats right i said it

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by bigm29

I agree with everything except for moss. No reciever, and i mean no reciever could have had a great season with the raiders the last two years. Randy did not want to play there and was not trying. People are gonna see this season why he is indeed THE BEST RECEIVER IN THE NFL. thats right i said it

The best receiver in the NFL doesn't "play when he wants to play" or play only when hes happy, while sucking the rest of the time. Inconsistency does not equal greatness no matter how talented you are.

[bigm29]

Ill restate that: Best reciever when he wants to be

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by bigm29

Ill restate that: Best reciever when he wants to be

Probably. I've never seen anyone with more physical skill, but that doesn't get one far at all without a work ethic.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Probably. I've never seen anyone with more physical skill, but that doesn't get one far at all without a work ethic.

Until he went to the Raiders he was on pace to beat Rice's records.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Until he went to the Raiders he was on pace to beat Rice's records.

Theres this thing called longevity. It's how Rice established those records in the first place.

For whatever reason, he was a completely useless player last year. Knowing that under certain conditions, he ca ngo completely AWOL, I don't understand what the Pats of all teams are doing here.