Portis vs. Betts

SmootSmack · 07-04-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by djnemo65

Why can't they both be great? Seems like a lot of people are attacking Betts in this thread and I don't get that. It's possible to think Portis is probably better without having to diminish what Betts was able to accomplish last year.

No kidding.

And another thing, why do so many people seem to act like Betts was some sort of walk-on free agent who stumbled onto the field from The Home Depot. Betts was drafted just a few choices after Portis. Based on that (and I understand it's somewhat rudimentary thinking) they shouldn't be too far apart in talent and ability

GTripp0012 · 07-04-2007, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

No kidding.

And another thing, why do so many people seem to act like Betts was some sort of walk-on free agent who stumbled onto the field from The Home Depot. Betts was drafted just a few choices after Portis. Based on that (and I understand it's somewhat rudimentary thinking) they shouldn't be too far apart in talent and ability

Thank you.

budw38 · 07-11-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by djnemo65

Why can't they both be great? Seems like a lot of people are attacking Betts in this thread and I don't get that. It's possible to think Portis is probably better without having to diminish what Betts was able to accomplish last year.

THANK YOU

. It is amazing that so many fans bash on player or another . Should we pick and chose a player at each position and sling mud at the guy less talanted ? Who cares if Betts is " better " or not ,,, whoever is moving the chains is going to get the carries .

Skinsfan1967 · 07-04-2007, 08:21 PM

Coach Gibbs had a very similar backfield in the 80's with Riggo and Joe Washington. Joe Washington's lighting to Riggo's thunder, they have been described as. Unstoppable tandum back then.

KLHJ2 · 07-04-2007, 10:15 PM

You guys are right. Betts is a good back. ONLY, if he can stay out of the HOSPITAL!

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 07-04-2007, 10:32 PM

Betts will never be better than Portis.

Pocket$ $traight · 07-04-2007, 11:46 PM

I am going to say it point blank. Anyone who thinks that Betts is a better back than Clinton Portis is a dumbass. No other way to say it.

I don't give a shit what stats you throw out there. I base my conclusion on two things:

One - I watch the game. Anyone who watches the game and is sane will come to the conclusion that Portis is the better back.

Two - A hall of fame coach who has won three Super Bowls has chosen Portis over Betts. What else do you need?

I guess you know more about running the football than Joe Gibbs?

GTripp0012 · 07-05-2007, 12:22 AM

A lot of the points being made in this thread are frusterating me. And its not because this topic isn't worth discussing. It's that people are taking sides, and saying very biased things for no good reason.

Pocket$ $traight · 07-05-2007, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

A lot of the points being made in this thread are frusterating me. And its not because this topic isn't worth discussing. It's that people are taking sides, and saying very biased things for no good reason.

The thread should be a non-issue. Joe Gibbs' toenail knows more about football than anyone in the Warpath and he has chosen Portis to be the starter.

Why is there even a debate?

SmootSmack · 07-05-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

The thread should be a non-issue. Joe Gibbs' toenail knows more about football than anyone in the Warpath and he has chosen Portis to be the starter.

Why is there even a debate?

Well that's fine then why do we even have this site?

Pocket$ $traight · 07-05-2007, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well that's fine then why do we even have this site?

Is the Warpath's fate hanging in the balance because of Betts vs. Portis?

That softball just went 350....

SmootSmack · 07-05-2007, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Is the Warpath's fate hanging in the balance because of Betts vs. Portis?

That softball just went 350....

I think you missed the point

GTripp0012 · 07-05-2007, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

The thread should be a non-issue. Joe Gibbs' toenail knows more about football than anyone in the Warpath and he has chosen Portis to be the starter.

Why is there even a debate?

Of course if we all thought that Gibbs knew more than all of us on every issue, there wouldn't even be dissenting opinion, so this is not necessarily true.

Joe Gibbs is a great football coach. That doesn't make him right 100% of the time. It just makes him good at what he does (coaching).

Now, whats frusterating me is that we are debating the past. Theres no debate. Portis, excluding this season, has been better every year than Betts both in total and broken down per play.

However, if we debate what the future holds, then you could make a case that Betts will be better going foward. I tend to feel they will both be pretty good, and somewhat interchangable. If I had to pick one, I'll assume Portis will still be above league average coming back from injury, and Betts will regress towards the average after last year. Means I'm taking Portis. But its still a good debate...as long as we debate 2007, and not 2002-2006.

Pocket$ $traight · 07-05-2007, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Of course if we all thought that Gibbs knew more than all of us on every issue, there wouldn't even be dissenting opinion, so this is not necessarily true.

Joe Gibbs is a great football coach. That doesn't make him right 100% of the time. It just makes him good at what he does (coaching).

Now, whats frusterating me is that we are debating the past. Theres no debate. Portis, excluding this season, has been better every year than Betts both in total and broken down per play.

However, if we debate what the future holds, then you could make a case that Betts will be better going foward. I tend to feel they will both be pretty good, and somewhat interchangable. If I had to pick one, I'll assume Portis will still be above league average coming back from injury, and Betts will regress towards the average after last year. Means I'm taking Portis. But its still a good debate...as long as we debate 2007, and not 2002-2006.

I do not want to build my running game on a guy who is just as likely to fumble as he is to get you in the endzone.

Betts has been a fumbler since we drafted him. No one can argue that. I just don't think that a team that wants to go for it all can trust him as a feature back.

GTripp0012 · 07-05-2007, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I do not want to build my running game on a guy who is just as likely to fumble as he is to get you in the endzone.

Betts has been a fumbler since we drafted him. No one can argue that. I just don't think that a team that wants to go for it all can trust him as a feature back.

People who are chronic fumblers tend not to stay that way. If they have desirable carrying skills, they get it corrected. See: Barber, Tiki.

Betts isn't half as bad as Barber was and he turned out alright.

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07-04-2007, 08:21 PM	#4
Skinsfan1967 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Frederick, Maryland Age: 59 Posts: 254	Re: Portis vs. Betts Coach Gibbs had a very similar backfield in the 80's with Riggo and Joe Washington. Joe Washington's lighting to Riggo's thunder, they have been described as. Unstoppable tandum back then.

07-04-2007, 10:15 PM	#5
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 47 Posts: 5,829	Re: Portis vs. Betts You guys are right. Betts is a good back. ONLY, if he can stay out of the HOSPITAL!

07-04-2007, 10:32 PM	#6
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 37 Posts: 14,189	Re: Portis vs. Betts Betts will never be better than Portis. __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

07-04-2007, 11:46 PM	#7
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 50 Posts: 4,261	Re: Portis vs. Betts I am going to say it point blank. Anyone who thinks that Betts is a better back than Clinton Portis is a dumbass. No other way to say it. I don't give a shit what stats you throw out there. I base my conclusion on two things: One - I watch the game. Anyone who watches the game and is sane will come to the conclusion that Portis is the better back. Two - A hall of fame coach who has won three Super Bowls has chosen Portis over Betts. What else do you need? I guess you know more about running the football than Joe Gibbs?

07-05-2007, 12:22 AM	#8
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 38 Posts: 15,994	Re: Portis vs. Betts A lot of the points being made in this thread are frusterating me. And its not because this topic isn't worth discussing. It's that people are taking sides, and saying very biased things for no good reason.

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