Gibbs

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Czabe got it wrong, we didn't trade a 7th for Thrash, we traded a 5th rounder.

OK, so that's even worse.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

OK, so that's even worse.

Yeah and although Czabe did a good job of listing everything Gibbs has done wrong, he said nothing about anything Gibbs has done right. I don't particularly care to go through every FA moves orchestrated by Gibbs, but guys like Landry, Taylor, Cooley, Campbell, Moss, Rabach, Carter, Washington, Fletcher, Rocky, Springs, Rogers, Smoot II, Griffin, and others are looking pretty good. If you're looking for a one-sided view of things, Czabe's your man as his brain is the size of my right testicle. If you're looking for a balanced view (looking at the good and the bad), look elsewhere.

For some reason, some people like Czabe have a hard time finding the good and the bad in things. My cousin is like that....but he's 10 years old. What is Czabe's excuse?

[Beemnseven]

Not true. Up until the Eagles game, Czabe was taking it easy on the Redskins this year, even after almost blowing the Arizona game, he went on the air and basically said be happy that we're on the plus side of .500.

Don't get me wrong, he'll devour the Skins, the front office, the coaching staff, like a bloodthirsty wolverine if they stink up the joint tomorrow.

But if you've been listening to him, he's been very fair with them this year.

As for the acquisitions you mentioned, yes, there are a few guys (Cooley, Landry, Campbell) who give us youth and promise for several seasons to come, but most of the guys you mentioned were brought here for the 'win now' philosophy, and are facing the downside of their career, not the upside.

[Crazyhorse1]

Originally Posted by BringBackJoeT

Indeed, this is a subject that we're beating to death. But to respond to the challenge of "can anyone say when [Gibbs] steps down we aren't light years ahead of where we were," I can't imagine I'm the only one who could very, very easily say that, if he were to step down today, we are NOT "light years" ahead of where we were. Again, we're going over and over this topic. But as that bastard Parcells proclaimed, you're as good as your record, and Gibbs overall record more than three and a half years into his second stint is below
.500, which makes him almost indistinguishable from the five coaches (Richie, Turner, Robiske, Marty, Spurrier) who preceded him (well, Marty actually had an even .500). As Boswell said in the Post last week, this team is mediocre. Period. If you're saying that Gibbs has laid a foundation for a powerhouse in the years to come, well, that's something I haven't heard too many NFL experts say. Sure, the so-called "experts" consistently show that they don't exactly have crystal balls, but I guess I'm just not as confident as you are that the current team is a youthful, soon-to-be dominator. Look, I'm not blaming anything on Coach Joe, I'm simply responding to your suggestion that he has radically turned the organization around. He hasn't.

Rabach is the only offensive lineman we have who is not in decline and he is no dominator. It's also likely Portis has only a couple of years left, Sellers is no spring chicken, Moss is inconsistent and injury prone and ARE isn't going to dominate anybody. We've got Cambell and Cooley to build a future with on offense Period.

On defense, we can build with Taylor, Landry, Carter, Rocky and maybe Montgomery. Face it. We've got very little to build a future with. Out next phrase will be a rebuilding phase-- a painfull one. The organization as a whole hasn't performed above the NFL norm. Gibbs hasn't improved it.

[rk3025]

Don't you think it has been vvise for bringing along the future of the skins Campbell slovvly
Not do vvhat they had done before vvith Ramsey and give the line time to play together a little before having a lot of rushing on Campbell
Marshall played great on the corner and thought he could play middle as he did corner linebacker
5 games is the same as all of last year and the season is not over folks

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Aside from signing Archuleta, trading picks for Lloyd and Duckett, and allowing Pierce to leave for reasonable money, almost every other personnel move has had a positive impact.

My bigger problem has been with the coaching, more specifically the offensive coaching. When Gibbs returned, I just assumed that his offense would carry the team and that the defense would struggle. It has been the complete opposite. Look at virtually every top team in the NFL this year, and all of them take shots in the passing game. With the rules changes favoring WRs, Gibbs has been slow to adjust his philosophy to leverage that. I've felt that he'd be better off going back to his Air Coryell roots that he established as SD's offensive coordinator.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Yeah and although Czabe did a good job of listing everything Gibbs has done wrong, he said nothing about anything Gibbs has done right. I don't particularly care to go through every FA moves orchestrated by Gibbs, but guys like Landry, Taylor, Cooley, Campbell, Moss, Rabach, Carter, Washington, Fletcher, Rocky, Springs, Rogers, Smoot II, Griffin, and others are looking pretty good. If you're looking for a one-sided view of things, Czabe's your man as his brain is the size of my right testicle. If you're looking for a balanced view (looking at the good and the bad), look elsewhere.

For some reason, some people like Czabe have a hard time finding the good and the bad in things. My cousin is like that....but he's 10 years old. What is Czabe's excuse?

LOL good stuff

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Not true. Up until the Eagles game, Czabe was taking it easy on the Redskins this year, even after almost blowing the Arizona game, he went on the air and basically said be happy that we're on the plus side of .500.

Don't get me wrong, he'll devour the Skins, the front office, the coaching staff, like a bloodthirsty wolverine if they stink up the joint tomorrow.

But if you've been listening to him, he's been very fair with them this year.

As for the acquisitions you mentioned, yes, there are a few guys (Cooley, Landry, Campbell) who give us youth and promise for several seasons to come, but most of the guys you mentioned were brought here for the 'win now' philosophy, and are facing the downside of their career, not the upside.

He's not fair with them in his blog. Except for after the Eagles game when he jumped on the bandwagon for a few days. And he's just a vile person. Sorry, I just can't stand the man. He has no redeeming qualities in my opinion.

[Beemnseven]

Czabe tells it like it is, and isn't afraid to call the team out on the carpet.

So yes, that makes many people hate him.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Czabe tells it like it is, and isn't afraid to call the team out on the carpet.

So yes, that makes many people hate him.

I hate him for reasons far beyond what he thinks of the Redskins. It's personal. Not really worth discussin on this board.

[70Chip]

People like Czaban, who are so obviously crippled inside, have no business being in the public eye. No business.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

People like Czaban, who are so obviously crippled inside, have no business being in the public eye. No business.

There is a reason he made it. Just cause you don't like his opinion, or opinions in general doesn't mean he's crippled inside.
I think Howard Stern is one of the worst people on the radio / tv. I can't stand listening to him, so you know what I do? I don't listen. Some people are out there with the sole intent to piss people off. Some people just like to stir the pot. Just the way it is.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

We have HB Blades in the wings to replace Fletcher, I wouldn't be surprised if is an impact player next year. Michael Espy to replace Moss (yes I think he's that good) only concern is coming back from injury.

Time will tell about HB Blades, but I'm not convinced. Also, I'm sorry, but you're wrong about Espy. There is about a 10% chance he becomes a #1 receiver. I'd love to see a study about the percentage of players came from a practice squad and became productive.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Time will tell about HB Blades, but I'm not convinced. Also, I'm sorry, but you're wrong about Espy. There is about a 10% chance he becomes a #1 receiver. I'd love to see a study about the percentage of players came from a practice squad and became productive.

I agree...but you're being polite. 0% chance! This is a guy that has been in the league for 2 years, tore his patella tendon this season, and even when he was at Miss had only 3 receiving tds in 2 years...and a career high of 543 yards in 05.
He was undrafted for a reason. He is another Cliff Russell at best!