Is Jason Campbell Accountable for this Loss?

JankySpanky80 · 11-26-2007, 03:53 AM

JC just needs to find a way to become clutch. A great game is good but he needs to eliminate the mistakes. The int's and fumbles are killing this season. I'm not sure but i think JC leads the league in fumbles. JC will have next year as well and if it is the same story he will be gone no matter who the coach is. I would hate to see that and i hope everything turns around. This team needs a true franchise QB since there hasn't been one in years. Rypien, Williams, and Schroeder were not franchise QB's. Theisman was the last true QB this team has had and what was that, like twenty some years ago. In the long and short of it, i really like JC and i think everyone on this board likes JC, so lets just grin and bare it for now. It really can't get any worse.

djnemo65 · 11-26-2007, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by JankySpanky80

JC just needs to find a way to become clutch. A great game is good but he needs to eliminate the mistakes. The int's and fumbles are killing this season. I'm not sure but i think JC leads the league in fumbles. JC will have next year as well and if it is the same story he will be gone no matter who the coach is. I would hate to see that and i hope everything turns around. This team needs a true franchise QB since there hasn't been one in years. Rypien, Williams, and Schroeder were not franchise QB's. Theisman was the last true QB this team has had and what was that, like twenty some years ago. In the long and short of it, i really like JC and i think everyone on this board likes JC, so lets just grin and bare it for now. It really can't get any worse.

Did you see the game versus LSU his senior season? He's definitely got clutch in him.

BLACKS · 11-26-2007, 06:16 AM

Campbell looked devastated at the end at least a sign that he cares. Pity the same cannot be said about some of the others. Moss looks and unfit and disinterested, the confidence of Portis is gone. Campbell gets slated. OK he has thrown heartbreaking interceptions in Dallas and Tampa but more or less singlehandedly dragged the offence back into the match. Give the guy a break. Maybe we should be taking a long look at our Head Coach. Gibbs was slaughtered by the British media after the loss over here. Is it time to call it a day, Joe. Oh to have 11 Cooleys on the field!!!

chrisl4064 · 11-26-2007, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BLACKS

Campbell looked devastated at the end at least a sign that he cares. Pity the same cannot be said about some of the others. Moss looks and unfit and disinterested, the confidence of Portis is gone. Campbell gets slated. OK he has thrown heartbreaking interceptions in Dallas and Tampa but more or less singlehandedly dragged the offence back into the match. Give the guy a break. Maybe we should be taking a long look at our Head Coach. Gibbs was slaughtered by the British media after the loss over here. Is it time to call it a day, Joe. Oh to have 11 Cooleys on the field!!!

First off, im not the biggest Portis fan in the world, but he showed me a lot today. After the fumbles he came out and ran the shit out of the ball in the second half. What about Campbell throwing the ball out of bounds and yet again showing us that his deep ball needs serious improvement. I honestly dont like Gibbs at the helm of this team, i would like to see him go, however i DO NOT blame him at all for this loss. Tampa Bay is not a horrible team, maybe againsed a weaker team we could have won this game with the show we put on in the second half, but they have some guys in thier secondary that have legit shots at the pro bowl this year. We just dug too big a hole for ourselves.

redsk1 · 11-26-2007, 08:56 AM

It's pretty damn stupid to say JC was the sole reason for this loss. Did anyone watch the game? A number of mistakes accounted for today's loss. Did JC have a couple? Yes. Did he have all of them? No.

He's very young and inexperienced as NFL Qb's go. Let's wait a little while before we pass judgement either way. I like the 300 yard game again. I like his poise and leadership. And I like the fact that he is much better than last year. I have a feeling he'll work his butt off in the offseason and come out better than this year.

I think some people think he should just step right in and be the second coming of Joe Montana...Be realistic. Have a little more patience. He is showing some signs of good things.

MTK · 11-26-2007, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by redsk1

It's pretty damn stupid to say JC was the sole reason for this loss. Did anyone watch the game? A number of mistakes accounted for today's loss. Did JC have a couple? Yes. Did he have all of them? No.

He's very young and inexperienced as NFL Qb's go. Let's wait a little while before we pass judgement either way. I like the 300 yard game again. I like his poise and leadership. And I like the fact that he is much better than last year. I have a feeling he'll work his butt off in the offseason and come out better than this year.

I think some people think he should just step right in and be the second coming of Joe Montana...Be realistic. Have a little more patience. He is showing some signs of good things.

I agree.

JC has to take some of the blame of course for yesterday, but he is in no way solely responsible.

All year Moss and Portis have fumbled and/or dropped passes in critical spots and frankly it's getting really old.

JC has an excuse, he's young and inexperienced.

What's the excuse for Moss and Portis?

SouperMeister · 11-26-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I agree.

JC has to take some of the blame of course for yesterday, but he is in no way solely responsible.

All year Moss and Portis have fumbled and/or dropped passes in critical spots and frankly it's getting really old.

JC has an excuse, he's young and inexperienced.

What's the excuse for Moss and Portis?

I cannot believe that Portis was still in the game after a second fumble deep in Skins' territory. The Gibbs of old would have had him on the bench after that sort of carelessness. There's no accountability around here anymore.

MTK · 11-26-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I cannot believe that Portis was still in the game after a second fumble deep in Skins' territory. The Gibbs of old would have had him on the bench after that sort of carelessness. There's no accountability around here anymore.

Well we did see more of Betts in the 2nd half, not sure if that was due to Portis fumbling or his overall ineffectiveness.

I don't agree that there is no accountability. Even with 2 fumbles Portis is still our best back and he needs to be out there in crunch time.

Redskin Warrior · 11-26-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by redsk1

It's pretty damn stupid to say JC was the sole reason for this loss. Did anyone watch the game? A number of mistakes accounted for today's loss. Did JC have a couple? Yes. Did he have all of them? No.

He's very young and inexperienced as NFL Qb's go. Let's wait a little while before we pass judgement either way. I like the 300 yard game again. I like his poise and leadership. And I like the fact that he is much better than last year. I have a feeling he'll work his butt off in the offseason and come out better than this year.

I think some people think he should just step right in and be the second coming of Joe Montana...Be realistic. Have a little more patience. He is showing some signs of good things.

I agree with you totally, JC is being a young QB he has to throw INT's to learn from his mistakes you are talking about a passionate kid that cried after the Dallas loss. Let him learn or throw MB in the game and we really lose.

firstdown · 11-26-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

I agree with you totally, JC is being a young QB he has to throw INT's to learn from his mistakes you are talking about a passionate kid that cried after the Dallas loss. Let him learn or throw MB in the game and we really lose.

Well he has thrown three picks now in the last minutes of the game how many times does he have to throw these picks before he learns is the question? Has he lead us to a game winning drive as our starter? I cannot think of one.

SmootSmack · 11-26-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Well he has thrown three picks now in the last minutes of the game how many times does he have to throw these picks before he learns is the question? Has he lead us to a game winning drive as our starter? I cannot think of one.

Didn't he last year against Carolina?

RobH4413 · 11-26-2007, 03:08 PM

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Didn't he last year against Carolina?

Yeah, it was the play where his headset went out and he hit Cooley for that huge touchdown pass.

Skins_FanFL · 11-26-2007, 09:29 AM

Hopefully the figures line up correctly below. Guess who each group of stat lines belong to?

G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT

11 | 155 293 52.9 1749 6.0 9 18
15 | 226 399 56.6 2579 6.5 11 18

7 | 110 207 53.1 1297 6.3 10 6
11 | 219 364 60.2 2384 6.4 22 16

Top - Troy Aikman in his first 26 games.
Bottom - JC in his first 18.

Draw your own conclusions. I was going to say the JC is playing like any 2nd year QB. But he is actually playing a little better. His decision-making needs to improve in the red zone; but this can be the fallout of so much being placed on his shoulders.

Soley resoponsible for the loss to the Bucs? No.

Two veterans combining for three lost fumbles. All leading to points, two inside their own 20-yard line. If you're a finger pointing type...

firstdown · 11-26-2007, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Skins_FanFL

Hopefully the figures line up correctly below. Guess who each group of stat lines belong to?

G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT

11 | 155 293 52.9 1749 6.0 9 18
15 | 226 399 56.6 2579 6.5 11 18

7 | 110 207 53.1 1297 6.3 10 6
11 | 219 364 60.2 2384 6.4 22 16

Top - Troy Aikman in his first 26 games.
Bottom - JC in his first 18.

Draw your own conclusions. I was going to say the JC is playing like any 2nd year QB. But he is actually playing a little better. His decision-making needs to improve in the red zone; but this can be the fallout of so much being placed on his shoulders.

Soley resoponsible for the loss to the Bucs? No.

Two veterans combining for three lost fumbles. All leading to points, two inside their own 20-yard line. If you're a finger pointing type...

Ok, if it was forth down with no time left and we are on the two yard line and call a running play. Moss is split wide left and is not a factor on the play and we make the TD and Moss gets called for a holding penalty and we then lose the game who's fault would it be for the loss?

skinsfan69 · 11-26-2007, 09:45 AM

Outside of two throws JC played great yesterday. Plus he had probably 4 drops? He was really throwing some great passes. We were leaning on him yesterday and he almost came through just like last week. But when you throw two picks in the redzone it kills the team. Hopefully he will learn from this. JC is starting to become an elite QB. He is almost there, but he's just not there yet.

11-26-2007, 03:53 AM	#1
JankySpanky80 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 267	Re: Is Jason Campbell Accountable for this Loss? JC just needs to find a way to become clutch. A great game is good but he needs to eliminate the mistakes. The int's and fumbles are killing this season. I'm not sure but i think JC leads the league in fumbles. JC will have next year as well and if it is the same story he will be gone no matter who the coach is. I would hate to see that and i hope everything turns around. This team needs a true franchise QB since there hasn't been one in years. Rypien, Williams, and Schroeder were not franchise QB's. Theisman was the last true QB this team has had and what was that, like twenty some years ago. In the long and short of it, i really like JC and i think everyone on this board likes JC, so lets just grin and bare it for now. It really can't get any worse. __________________ JANK-e SPANK-e

11-26-2007, 06:16 AM	#3
BLACKS Camp Scrub Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1	Re: Is Jason Campbell Accountable for this Loss? Campbell looked devastated at the end at least a sign that he cares. Pity the same cannot be said about some of the others. Moss looks and unfit and disinterested, the confidence of Portis is gone. Campbell gets slated. OK he has thrown heartbreaking interceptions in Dallas and Tampa but more or less singlehandedly dragged the offence back into the match. Give the guy a break. Maybe we should be taking a long look at our Head Coach. Gibbs was slaughtered by the British media after the loss over here. Is it time to call it a day, Joe. Oh to have 11 Cooleys on the field!!!

11-26-2007, 08:56 AM	#5
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Is Jason Campbell Accountable for this Loss? It's pretty damn stupid to say JC was the sole reason for this loss. Did anyone watch the game? A number of mistakes accounted for today's loss. Did JC have a couple? Yes. Did he have all of them? No. He's very young and inexperienced as NFL Qb's go. Let's wait a little while before we pass judgement either way. I like the 300 yard game again. I like his poise and leadership. And I like the fact that he is much better than last year. I have a feeling he'll work his butt off in the offseason and come out better than this year. I think some people think he should just step right in and be the second coming of Joe Montana...Be realistic. Have a little more patience. He is showing some signs of good things.

11-26-2007, 09:29 AM	#13
Skins_FanFL Camp Scrub Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 47	Re: Is Jason Campbell Accountable for this Loss? Hopefully the figures line up correctly below. Guess who each group of stat lines belong to? G \| Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT 11 \| 155 293 52.9 1749 6.0 9 18 15 \| 226 399 56.6 2579 6.5 11 18 7 \| 110 207 53.1 1297 6.3 10 6 11 \| 219 364 60.2 2384 6.4 22 16 Top - Troy Aikman in his first 26 games. Bottom - JC in his first 18. Draw your own conclusions. I was going to say the JC is playing like any 2nd year QB. But he is actually playing a little better. His decision-making needs to improve in the red zone; but this can be the fallout of so much being placed on his shoulders. Soley resoponsible for the loss to the Bucs? No. Two veterans combining for three lost fumbles. All leading to points, two inside their own 20-yard line. If you're a finger pointing type...

11-26-2007, 09:45 AM	#15
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,591	Re: Is Jason Campbell Accountable for this Loss? Outside of two throws JC played great yesterday. Plus he had probably 4 drops? He was really throwing some great passes. We were leaning on him yesterday and he almost came through just like last week. But when you throw two picks in the redzone it kills the team. Hopefully he will learn from this. JC is starting to become an elite QB. He is almost there, but he's just not there yet.

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