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[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Riggo44

It’s just a thought but does anyone think Snyder is actually pissed at Gibbs for leaving so he wants’ to snub all the coaches Gibbs had brought in for the Coaching job?
In other words would Danny boy really cut of his nose to spite his face?

I absolutely feel Snyder feels betrayed or even a a little let down over Gibbs' departure. Pissed? Dunno know about that one.

I can't say he's actually rubbing it in, but I do think his emotions on this are misplaced. Just my opinion.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Riggo44

It’s just a thought but does anyone think Snyder is actually pissed at Gibbs for leaving so he wants’ to snub all the coaches Gibbs had brought in for the Coaching job?
In other words would Danny boy really cut of his nose to spite his face?

No, he wouldn't, I don't think that is the case at all. First of all, that wouldn't be smart business, and 'ole Danny boy didn't get to where he is by making off the cuff decisions like that. Second, what makes you think that Gibbs would choose GW as his successor. I've never heard him endorse GW with respect to the head coaching position. Maybe his advice to Daniel Snyder is just the opposite...

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by Riggo44

It’s just a thought but does anyone think Snyder is actually pissed at Gibbs for leaving so he wants’ to snub all the coaches Gibbs had brought in for the Coaching job?
In other words would Danny boy really cut of his nose to spite his face?

I highly doubt it. Danny is a smart man(look at all the money he made), and no one would spend weeks, expensive flights, etc. with a predetermined notion of firing GW to spite Gibbs lol.

If so Danny would have cut GW right away. I can't believe we are reaching at straws here now.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Riggo44

It’s just a thought but does anyone think Snyder is actually pissed at Gibbs for leaving so he wants’ to snub all the coaches Gibbs had brought in for the Coaching job?
In other words would Danny boy really cut of his nose to spite his face?

Do we even know how much of this was done with the help of Gibbs?

[12thMan]

Just to be clear on where I stand on this one.

I don't want Fassel at all.

Not as a head coach,

Not as coordinator,

Not as the guy who's going to take JC to the "next level".

Not as the next "whomever".

I don't care....don't want the guy - at all!

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Just to be clear on where I stand on this one.

I don't want Fassel at all.

Not as a head coach,

Not as coordinator,

Not as the guy who's going to take JC to the "next level".

Not as the next "whomever".

I don't care....don't want the guy - at all!

I'm with you on that one.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Just to be clear on where I stand on this one.

I don't want Fassel at all.

Not as a head coach,

Not as coordinator,

Not as the guy who's going to take JC to the "next level".

Not as the next "whomever".

I don't care....don't want the guy - at all!

ditto..

only because I'd like about 10 others before him other than Williams.

I simply think Williams is the clear best choice. I give a lot of credence to an entire staff and lockr room putting their strong support behind one guy. They'd know best about whether the guy can lead and they have said "yes he can and should lead us". That ought to mean an awful lot. I am scared to think what it'll mean when he doesn't get the job honestly.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

ditto..

only because I'd like about 10 others before him other than Williams.

I simply think Williams is the clear best choice. I give a lot of credence to an entire staff and lockr room putting their strong support behind one guy. They'd know best about whether the guy can lead and they have said "yes he can and should lead us". That ought to mean an awful lot. I am scared to think what it'll mean when he doesn't get the job honestly.

Oh, if Williams doesn't get the job you'll hear the nominal, we're glad with the decision. Gregg meant a lot, but this is a business...blah, blah, blah.

And let's not understimate the utter circus and media scrutiny the players will be subjected to from day one of training camp. Can you imagine the silly questions they're going to have to answer.

God forbid this team starts out 0-2 or 0-3, it will be chaos around here.

[jsnyder03]

SmootSmack,

You are usually one of the most level-headed guys here, but it sure seems like you are in "damage control" mode. Will the fan exodus of this potential move hurt more than the mismanagement of this great franchise?

Schneed and redsk1 seem to be right on point. Just look at the War Path's poll, not everyone but an overwhelming majority want GW. As much because of his earning the job HERE, rather than his previous head coaching resume.

And Paintrain, what's up with that sig comparing GW to Patrick Ramsey? Williams has had a successful NFL career! Comparing him to a disappointing 1st round pick is simply wrong.

For the record, I would like to see Williams as HC, keep Saunders and continue what Gibbs started. I would understand going with a Cowher type HC, but if we have to blow up the entire coaching staff for a "B" level HC, my heart-felt Redskins passion will take a huge hit.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by jsnyder03

SmootSmack,

You are usually one of the most level-headed guys here, but it sure seems like you are in "damage control" mode. Will the fan exodus of this potential move hurt more than the mismanagement of this great franchise?

Schneed and redsk1 seem to be right on point. Just look at the War Path's poll, not everyone but an overwhelming majority want GW. As much because of his earning the job HERE, rather than his previous head coaching resume.

And Paintrain, what's up with that sig comparing GW to Patrick Ramsey? Williams has had a successful NFL career! Comparing him to a disappointing 1st round pick is simply wrong.

For the record, I would like to see Williams as HC, keep Saunders and continue what Gibbs started. I would understand going with a Cowher type HC, but if we have to blow up the entire coaching staff for a "B" level HC, my heart-felt Redskins passion will take a huge hit.

LOL fan exodus?

I'd love to see it. We could afford to cut some dead weight.

Truth is all the people hating on this will be loving life if the team wins.

I think alot of people have too much emotion wrapped up in this decision and simply can't be objective about it right now. Maybe once the dust settles we'll see some more rational thinking. But for right now it's total freakout mode.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Truth is all the people hating on this will be loving life if the team wins.

Every true fan has to eat his share of crow every now and then.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Every true fan has to eat his share of crow every now and then.

Yet some never learn.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

LOL fan exodus?

I'd love to see it. We could afford to cut some dead weight.

Truth is all the people hating on this will be loving life if the team wins.

I think alot of people have too much emotion wrapped up in this decision and simply can't be objective about it right now. Maybe once the dust settles we'll see some more rational thinking. But for right now it's total freakout mode.

Yeah, there won't be any fan exodus. If we stuck around for Martyball and The Ol' Ball Coach, I see no great fan abandonment because of The Fossil.

But I think you and Smooty are both wrong if you think that fans won't be left with a bad taste in their mouth and a general embarrassment at the way Snyder runs OUR team (yes I said ours) if it goes down like this.

The reason that fans stuck by Joe in the second half of this season had as much to do with the way he led the team with dignity and passion than it did with the fact that we were winning games nobody gave us a chance in.

That same reason is why folks are going to be bitter with Snyder even if he brings in a totally new staff and the team starts winning some games. I don't think Skins fans are content to win a few games and feel like being a bunch of a-holes in the FO is okay as a result.

We want to return to the class organization we used to be. Sure, win a Super Bowl and a lot of sins are forgiven, but give me a break, we're all a little tired of crowning ourselves Super Bowl Champs in August and sitting at home watching other teams in the playoffs come December.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by dgack

Yeah, there won't be any fan exodus. If we stuck around for Martyball and The Ol' Ball Coach, I see no great fan abandonment because of The Fossil.

But I think you and Smooty are both wrong if you think that fans won't be left with a bad taste in their mouth and a general embarrassment at the way Snyder runs OUR team (yes I said ours) if it goes down like this.

The reason that fans stuck by Joe in the second half of this season had as much to do with the way he led the team with dignity and passion than it did with the fact that we were winning games nobody gave us a chance in.

That same reason is why folks are going to be bitter with Snyder even if he brings in a totally new staff and the team starts winning some games. I don't think Skins fans are content to win a few games and feel like being a bunch of a-holes in the FO is okay as a result.

We want to return to the class organization we used to be. Sure, win a Super Bowl and a lot of sins are forgiven, but give me a break, we're all a little tired of crowning ourselves Super Bowl Champs in August and sitting at home watching other teams in the playoffs come December.

Honestly I really don't care and Snyder probably doesn't either. There are plenty of people out there that have already made up their minds to hate the guy no matter what, and when situations like this come up they can't wait to pounce, despite the fact they don't completely know or understand the entire situation.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really don't care and Snyder probably doesn't either.

It's pretty clear Snyder doesn't care at all. I'm a little mystified why you and the other mods are so surprised or disagree with the outrage, though.

The only conclusion I can reach is that you guys pretty much universally support whatever Snyder decides to do, beyond any loyalty to coaches or the team's overall legacy and history.

Frankly sometimes I think you guys really don't give enough credit to Skins fans, especially those on this board who disagree, many of whom have proven that they aren't just screaming hordes who want a win no matter what.

If this is the place for "The Knowledgeable Fan" why do you guys continue to speak condescendingly to people who don't just fall in line with whatever decree is handed down from Redskins Park?