Don't you think we are overreacting just a bit??

[70Chip]

I haven't had to overreact because I saw this coming and got it all out of my system beforehand.

It's not that bad. They can win some games. I think Zorn needs to focus more on matchups in his game planning. Find the defenses weak link and pick on him. Sometimes you get so caught up in trying to establish your identity, you lose focus. Flexibility is important too. I think Bruce Lee has some good thoughts in this area. Let the opponent dictate how you defeat him.

As fans, once we accept that this team will have to struggle for everything, we can begin to actually root for them again. They're just not going to dominate. If that's what your into, this is not the team.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I haven't had to overreact because I saw this coming and got it all out of my system beforehand.

It's not that bad. They can win some games. I think Zorn needs to focus more on matchups in his game planning. Find the defenses weak link and pick on him. Sometimes you get so caught up in trying to establish your identity, you lose focus. Flexibility is important too. I think Bruce Lee has some good thoughts in this area. Let the opponent dictate how you defeat him.

As fans, once we accept that this team will have to struggle for everything, we can begin to actually root for them again. They're just not going to dominate. If that's what your into, this is not the team.

People had super high expectations. We have a rookie coach and all we can hope is to finish .500. People need to move on, I'm sure the team have and they're focusing on N.O.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

People had super high expectations. We have a rookie coach and all we can hope is to finish .500. People need to move on, I'm sure the team have and they're focusing on N.O.

Bring em on Baby!

[skins6]

We must have patience-Cooley's big play called back due to penalty--the defense is solid--the "O" will come around--fact we opened season on a Thursday gives us a couple xtra days to prepare for Saints. We lost a battle but will win the war.

[4thGenRedskin21]

I agree. But this is typical redskin fandum. Impatient as hell... I knew this was going ot happen and I told my family this, We have a new offense yet again, but this time we have new coaches, and our HC hasnt ever called plays before so if course this is going totake some time.... you people need to learn how to relax, but the best option would have been to hire Greg Williams but oh well. It's going to take a little bit of time guys, stop over reacting

[hooskins]

I think the main issue is fans are offensively minded. I am positive if the score was 42-21 then the bashing would not be nearly as high.

I personally think it is great our D still looks good(against the SB champs I might add) after being ripped apart a couple times in the preseason.

Let's be honest, you can't except a first year coach and team learning a new offense, to throw up 30 points against SB champs. That is just unrealistic.

I think a major concern is the oline, and heyer's mistakes. The penalties really killed an offensive that needed all the help it could get.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by hooskins

I think the main issue is fans are offensively minded. I am positive if the score was 42-21 then the bashing would not be nearly as high.

I personally think it is great our D still looks good(against the SB champs I might add) after being ripped apart a couple times in the preseason.

Let's be honest, you can't except a first year coach and team learning a new offense, to throw up 30 points against SB champs. That is just unrealistic.

I think a major concern is the oline, and heyer's mistakes. The penalties really killed an offensive that needed all the help it could get.

People are acting like the score was 41-3 instead of 16-7.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

People are acting like the score was 41-3 instead of 16-7.

I don't' know if you saw the Giants but they absolutely sucked. They are not the team that they were last year. Eli played poorly and lot of teams will take advantage of them as a team this year.

We couldn't even compete with them as a team. We made a ass of ourselves in the national spotlight. I think it was that bad and I don't think I'm overreacting.

As long as the offense looks that inept then there is cause for concern. They had four months to prep and looked like they just found out about the game the previous day.

Matt Ryan is a new player, on a new team with a new head coach and he managed not to make a complete ass of himself during a live NFL game. You'd think given those circumstances that Campbell and the Skins wouldn't have laid an egg during the game they've prepped 4 months for.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

I don't' know if you saw the Giants but they absolutely sucked. They are not the team that they were last year. Eli played poorly and lot of teams will take advantage of them as a team this year.

We couldn't even compete with them as a team. We made a ass of ourselves in the national spotlight. I think it was that bad and I don't think I'm overreacting.

As long as the offense looks that inept then there is cause for concern. They had four months to prep and looked like they just found out about the game the previous day.

Matt Ryan is a new player, on a new team with a new head coach and he managed not to make a complete ass of himself during a live NFL game. You'd think given those circumstances that Campbell and the Skins wouldn't have laid an egg during the game they've prepped 4 months for.

Matt Ryan had the benefit of Turner rushing for 220 yards and 2 scores. The TEAM had 318 yards rushing for pete's sake. Washington relied on Campbell, Atlanta did not rely on Ryan at all, as evident with his meezly 13 attempts to 42 rushing attempts. Your comparison makes no sense when presented with the actual facts.

Also, the Giants didn't suck...they dominated the first half...it wasn't until we played some D that they had difficulty in the 2nd half.

OK guys, I'm going to say this one last time, cause apparently we have some pretty ignorant fans here...CAMPBELL IS STARTING A NEW SYSTEM, AND HE IS STARTING IT WITH A HEAD COACH THAT HAS 0 EXPERIENCE AS A HEAD COACH OR AN OC!!!! Holy shit people, give it time. If you expected us to have a great team out of the gates, then it isn't Campbell or Zorn that is sucking...it is YOU that is an idiot.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Matt Ryan had the benefit of Turner rushing for 220 yards and 2 scores. The TEAM had 318 yards rushing for pete's sake. Washington relied on Campbell, Atlanta did not rely on Ryan at all, as evident with his meezly 13 attempts to 42 rushing attempts. Your comparison makes no sense when presented with the actual facts.

Also, the Giants didn't suck...they dominated the first half...it wasn't until we played some D that they had difficulty in the 2nd half.

OK guys, I'm going to say this one last time, cause apparently we have some pretty ignorant fans here...CAMPBELL IS STARTING A NEW SYSTEM, AND HE IS STARTING IT WITH A HEAD COACH THAT HAS 0 EXPERIENCE AS A HEAD COACH OR AN OC!!!! Holy shit people, give it time. If you expected us to have a great team out of the gates, then it isn't Campbell or Zorn that is sucking...it is YOU that is an idiot.

Then why didn't the Lions set out to stop the run and put 8 or 9 guys in the box and let Ryan beat you passing. The Lions Def- Coor- is not a moron. That didn't happen, and the Falcons comparatively looked Super Bowl champions to the performance we gave on THU.

It's not the fact that I want the Skins to dominate it's the fact that I'd like them to compete.

They looked horribly inept on THU. You can give Campbell and Zorn as many rationalizations as you would like. Ryan is working with a lot more obstacles than Campbell is and he managed to pull off a COMPETITIVE performance.

You're giving me reasons why Campbell didn't dominate or win the game but can you give me some as to why he wasn't even competitive?

...Save your caps for someone who dignifies your responses.

[Paintrain]

Based on the week 1 JC backlash off of his 15-27, 133, TD, 0 INT performance the internets will be ablaze across the NFL nation with cries of 'BENCH ________' for these Week 1 standouts:

Matt Hasselbeck 17-41, 190, TD, INT-Hail Senaca Wallace!
Marc Bulger 14-26, 158, 0 TD, 0 INT-Free Trent Green!
Carson Palmer 10-25, 99, 0 TD, 1 INT-Put in, uh, uh, whoever..
Derek Anderson 11-24, 114, TD, 0 INT-They gave up Charlie Frye for that?

Or maybe other fan bases realize that it's just one week and there are 15 more games to be played..

[Stacks42]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Based on the week 1 JC backlash off of his 15-27, 133, TD, 0 INT performance the internets will be ablaze across the NFL nation with cries of 'BENCH ________' for these Week 1 standouts:

Matt Hasselbeck 17-41, 190, TD, INT-Hail Senaca Wallace!
Marc Bulger 14-26, 158, 0 TD, 0 INT-Free Trent Green!
Carson Palmer 10-25, 99, 0 TD, 1 INT-Put in, uh, uh, whoever..
Derek Anderson 11-24, 114, TD, 0 INT-They gave up Charlie Frye for that?

Or maybe other fan bases realize that it's just one week and there are 15 more games to be played..

Those 4 QBs mentioned are established starters and have shown in the past that they can win games and lead their teams. Something Campbell has not managed to do, Im not calling for his head, because there really isnt a better option, but I am tired of the excuses. SHOW ME SOMETHING!

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Stacks42

Those 4 QBs mentioned are established starters and have shown in the past that they can win games and lead their teams. Something Campbell has not managed to do, Im not calling for his head, because there really isnt a better option, but I am tired of the excuses. SHOW ME SOMETHING!

But with the exception of Anderson, they have all had TIME.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Based on the week 1 JC backlash off of his 15-27, 133, TD, 0 INT performance the internets will be ablaze across the NFL nation with cries of 'BENCH ________' for these Week 1 standouts:

Matt Hasselbeck 17-41, 190, TD, INT-Hail Senaca Wallace!
Marc Bulger 14-26, 158, 0 TD, 0 INT-Free Trent Green!
Carson Palmer 10-25, 99, 0 TD, 1 INT-Put in, uh, uh, whoever..
Derek Anderson 11-24, 114, TD, 0 INT-They gave up Charlie Frye for that?

Or maybe other fan bases realize that it's just one week and there are 15 more games to be played..

Those teams have all locked their QB's up financially due to their play.

I think JC is within a year or two of contractual elapse. That makes him much more expendable, especially if he keeps up his bad habits.


At this point I rather him throw a pickle than look that clueless on the field.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Those teams have all locked their QB's up financially due to their play.

I think JC is within a year or two of contractual elapse. That makes him much more expendable, especially if he keeps up his bad habits.


At this point I rather him throw a pickle than look that clueless on the field.

Not to make this too personal, but I am sure you would have been fired from your job if you were judged this harshly after your first day.