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Old 12-14-2008, 05:40 PM   #1
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Re: If You Ran the Redskins...

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What steps would you take between now and opening day 2009 to improve this team?

Here's what I would want to see happen

1. Don't Quit on Zorn

I've talked about this in greater detail in another thread, but I think unless he goes totally Norv on us these next three weeks then it's in the best interest of the team to keep him

2. Give the Chief New Indians

If we are going to commit to Zorn as the head coach, even if only for one more year, then we need to entrust him with the responsibility of deciding what staff he wants surrounding him. And I'm going to guess it's going to include maybe 40% of the current staff

3. Trust the Youth

Thank you Kendall, Griffin, Thrash, and Washington but they need to take a back seat now-if not leave the team entirely-for some of the younger guys. These younger guys are going to make mistakes but at this point there is no room for improvement with the four aforementioned guys (when they are even healthy) and if we're seeing that we hover around .500 with these guys then it's time to start moving forward

4. Fortify the Offensive Line

This is our biggest weakness. We went from experienced linemen to old linemen seemingly overnight (though to be fair, many on this board saw it coming from a mile away). I'd love for us to sign Jordan Gross from the Panthers and draft Duke Robinson in the first round. If we can add another lineman (Unger, Herman Johnson) in the 3rd round that'd be huge. Bottom line we need at least two new offensive linemen.

5. Veteran LB

Karlos Dansby. He's my new Justin Smith

6. Move He Who Shall Not Be Named to #2 QB

I'm tempted to say make training camp an open competition. But I'm more inclined to say we should know by now if Campbell is our guy. If he is, committ to him long-term this off-season and firmly establish him as our guy for the next 5-7 years

7. Renewed Focus on Special Teams

I can't pinpoint exactly what the problem is but something needs to change right away, and it may probably have to start with letting Danny Smith go

8. Continue to Give Scott Campbell an Expanded Role in Player Personnel

I think this is happening regardless

9. Re-Sign DeAngelo Hall

I think they blew it last year when they didn't take advantage of a deep draft class at DB by selecting Justin Tryon. Hall has fallen into their lap and they shouldn't let him get away. They really can't do all that much better at this point

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Old 12-14-2008, 05:46 PM   #2
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If not Cowher then strongly consider hiring Grimm as our head coach. As I've said before Grimm has learned under Gibbs and Cowher. On top of that he's part of a staff that has the Cardinals going to the playoffs. The only thing I'm unsure about will be Grimms ability to shake up the front office and get the organization away from it's desire to find a Reciever.
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Old 12-14-2008, 06:00 PM   #3
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Re: If You Ran the Redskins...

1. Drop Thrash, Springs, Smoot, any over the hill O linemen.
2. Sorry, but JC is not our man and is not going to win squat for us in terms of playoffs games to say the least. He is average to mediocre and isn't a leader, so why have him start? Only way to rejuvenize JC is open up camp to competition. Light a fire under his ass and maybe he will get better. It still blows my mind we some of the fans in here still think JC is the shit
3. For the love of god draft some linemen in the opening rounds!!!!!
4. Draft some Db's and another tall WR to replace Randel El
5. Tinker with the WCO and add longer routes to open things up in the passing game and/or add more double TE to help with pass blocking.
6. Give Zorn and JC the whole of the '09 season to redeem themselves. If the same medicore season is the result, have both pack their bags.
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Old 12-14-2008, 06:09 PM   #4
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It still blows my mind we some of the fans in here still think JC is the shit
I'm not sure what website you are reading, but I haven't seen anyone sing Campbell's praises in quite a few weeks. People have simply said he's our best option right now. For some reason, however, Coltmaniacs can't grasp that there is a difference between saying he's our best option and saying he's some God.
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Old 12-14-2008, 06:30 PM   #5
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I'm not sure what website you are reading, but I haven't seen anyone sing Campbell's praises in quite a few weeks. People have simply said he's our best option right now. For some reason, however, Coltmaniacs can't grasp that there is a difference between saying he's our best option and saying he's some God.
I've seen enough dropped passes to say he isn't playing that terribly.
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Old 12-14-2008, 06:06 PM   #6
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Re: If You Ran the Redskins...

Blowing the roster up isn't going to help anything. There needs to be some changes to key positions, but wholesale changes aren't going to happen for many reasons.
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Old 12-14-2008, 06:16 PM   #7
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Blowing the roster up isn't going to help anything. There needs to be some changes to key positions, but wholesale changes aren't going to happen for many reasons.
Some of this players already have replacements waiting in the wings:


Jansen replaced by Rinehart
Fabini replaced by Gesinger or draft pick
Kendall replaced by Devin Clark or draft pick
Randle-El replaced by Thomas
Yoder replaced by Fred Davis
Thrash replaced by Malcom kelly

On defense:

Washington replaced by draft pick or FA signing
Griffin replaced by draft pick or FA signing
Springs (I would see if he can be signed as a S)
Smoot replaced by Tryon or one of our PS players
Taylor (trade if possible)
Hall (or sign him to a 2-3 year contract, no more)
Wilson replaced by FA signing, draft pick or Buzbee
Khary Campbell replaced by Matt Sinclair or FA signing or draft pick
Doughty (trade if possible, Moore can take his place)

A lot of the positions that would be filled would be like 3rd or 4th stringer positions.
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Old 12-14-2008, 07:15 PM   #8
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Blowing the roster up isn't going to help anything. There needs to be some changes to key positions, but wholesale changes aren't going to happen for many reasons.
For now- QB, TE and RB are set. Actually TE and RB have enough talent to shed some, but Yoder isn't good enough to attract attention, and Davis hasn't done anything meaning the only one who would provide value is Cooley who should be untouchable.

OL- We'll need a new LG. Kendall's a free agent even if he doesn't retire. A new tackle. Reinhart could be one of those guys. We'll need to either draft or sign the other and look for a back up or two. Fabini should be gone. Samuels or Jansen may be

WR- I'm not giving up on Thomas or Kelly, but I have on Randle El. Since I don't expect either of the current rookies to be better than a third reciever next year we either need a number 2 reciever(it seems there's nothing in the league harder to acquire) or someone good enough to force Moss to that roll.

DL- We've got plenty of depth. We need one player who will make the others around him better. Don't know whether it should be inside or outside. We should probably resign Evans.

LB- I like HB Blades. If he's a starter we need two backups. If he stays a backup we need a starter. Of course if Washington decides to take a paycut and a backup job, lesser playing time may make it possible he'd play more. Several of our DE's also played LB so that may help take care of that.

DB- The one place we have a glut. I'm even willing to lose some talent here. Of course if Hall leaves then that takes care of that. But if he resigns either Smoot or Springs could be traded.

I think I'd draft as many linemen in the draft as possible. If I thought the only linemen at my spot were a reach I'd trade down.
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Old 12-23-2008, 01:25 PM   #9
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Blowing the roster up isn't going to help anything. There needs to be some changes to key positions, but wholesale changes aren't going to happen for many reasons.
Like What? please explain more.
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Old 12-14-2008, 06:42 PM   #10
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Re: If You Ran the Redskins...

1. Cut Springs and possibly smoot (would prefer to keep one of them for rainy day), 1-2 OL, one of our defensive ends, and Marcus Washington (if we find him a replacement)

2. Make at least one big sign from the free agent crop, we could use any d-lineman, o-lineman, and even a solid OLB (peppers, suggs, haynesworth, jordan groos, stacey andrews, jahri evans, bart scott, michael boley, leroy hill) snagging one of these guys gives us an immediate starter, and one less immediate need to assess in the draft

3. Draft needs in order
a. O-line, with all the talented Tackles or Guards in this years draft we should be able to grab a starter with a mid round pick, I hate to say this but samuels, thomas, jansen are all getting too old
b. If we dont get a defensive lineman in free agency (which we wont thanks to the amazing addition of jason taylor 123156 years old, we could have had the space to add peppers or suggs, wow we messed that one up), we need to target a fluid pass rusher. its agonizing to watch our d-line try (yes only try) to get to the quarterback. We could target guys like selvie, orakpo, and michael johnson
c. IF we address our needs at OL and DL we need a replacement for Washington right away, hes lost his step and with london (hall of fame me?) aging we could add a guy like cushing, laurinitis, of curry to eventually take the reigns. I lie laurinitis becasue he has the skills to play OLB until london retires then we can move him back inside

4. we need to let our young talent develop, I know we all got our hopes up after our awesome start but we need to realize our team will only get worse with our aging starters if we dont give our young talent a chance to develop. We need rinehart, thomas, and kelly to grow in the offseason, I WANT RANDLE EL back in the slot next season where he is the biggest threat
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Old 12-14-2008, 07:18 PM   #11
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Re: If You Ran the Redskins...

1. Cut Springs, Washington, Griffin, Daniels, Fabini, and Jansen. Sign everyone else.
2. Get Dre Moore of Tampa's practice squad.
3. Sign Jordan Gross and Karlos Dansby(Linbacker). Gross can play left tackle and Samuels can move to right. That gives us two awsome left tackles and Heyer backing them up.
4. Draft a stud tackle or trade first pick for one. Use the rest of the picks for Oline and a linebacker.
5. Hire Cowher.
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1. Cut Springs, Washington, Griffin, Daniels, Fabini, and Jansen. Sign everyone else.
2. Get Dre Moore of Tampa's practice squad.
3. Sign Jordan Gross and Karlos Dansby(Linbacker). Gross can play left tackle and Samuels can move to right. That gives us two awsome left tackles and Heyer backing them up.
4. Draft a stud tackle or trade first pick for one. Use the rest of the picks for Oline and a linebacker.
5. Hire Cowher.
You some things right except for 2.

Dre Moore is in a practice squad for a reason, not good enough. Cowher is not the answer, replacing Vinny in the FO is the answer.
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Old 12-14-2008, 07:27 PM   #13
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You some things right except for 2.

Dre Moore is in a practice squad for a reason, not good enough. Cowher is not the answer, replacing Vinny in the FO is the answer.
I really think the point of the practice squad is that they're supposed to be good enough eventually.
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Old 12-14-2008, 07:38 PM   #14
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You some things right except for 2.

Dre Moore is in a practice squad for a reason, not good enough. Cowher is not the answer, replacing Vinny in the FO is the answer.
I know he may not be that good, but he was highly rated as a tackle and he is 6-4 310 pounds and one the fastest forty's in the combine for tackles. He was a fourth round draft choice, it kind of makes up for not having one.
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I know he may not be that good, but he was highly rated as a tackle and he is 6-4 310 pounds and one the fastest forty's in the combine for tackles. He was a fourth round draft choice, it kind of makes up for not having one.
We already have Golston, Montgomery and Alexander. What we need is a stud replacement for Griffin not another comparable player. The players that really need to be replaced are Griffin, Springs, Washington, Jansen, Smoot. They are always hurt and are a liability, it makes us shorthanded especially, when they are starters except for Smoot.
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