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Old 12-15-2008, 03:30 PM   #1
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Man if we get aye new rebulid offense of line then u will see the leading rusher again this next season.. We just need to rebulid that o line then he will be able to break long runs.. He always got to break threw 2 tackles before he gets 7 yards.. Man its not his fought its the o line we cant pass cause the oline if we upgrade that old dusty o line and watch how we thrive next year
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Old 12-15-2008, 04:32 PM   #2
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When is this guy going to stop getting a pass for his lack of production?

JC gets hammered for being mediocre, Portis is nothing but a mediorce RB in my eyes. No balance, no ability to make guys miss in the open field, no ability to hit the homerun, horrible in short yardage....bottom line he isn't a PLAYMAKER.

Jason La Canfora has an article out that in Portis's last 266 caries he doesn't have a carry over 30 yards.... that is a shocking stat IMO.

Added to all this is the fact that he is a semi-cancer in the locker room.

I don't understand why this guy gets a pass while JC gets hammered constantly.
I honestly think it's hard to be a mediocre RB in the league and put up the numbers that Portis has...at 27, he has over 9000 rushing yards (7th active list, 28th overall) and 70 TDs (4th active list, 27th overall), averaging 92.4 yards/game (2nd active, 5th overall).

Even with his recent struggles (393 yards, 0 TDs in the past 6 games, vs. 944, 7 TDs in the first 8), he's still 3rd in rushing yards in the NFL. The problem is, the rest of the offense isn't producing either. So if Portis doesn't get a pass for his lack of production, neither does anyone else. His own injuries have hampered him, as well as a stagnant offense that cannot produce. Throw in an offensive line that has fallen apart in front of our eyes, and backup RBs that cannot come close to shouldering the load when Portis isn't in the game (this season at least. Betts has proved before that he can), and you have a recipe for disaster.

As far as JLC's fact...it's not true. Granted, the truth isn't too far, but he does have at least 2 runs of 30+ this season in 291 carries (source: NFL.com game logs). However, it wasn't too long ago this season that he carried this team to victory more than once. It's a little harsh to say he's not a playmaker just because his stat sheet isn't filled with long runs. Just ask the Cowboys, Ravens and Bengals. It doesn't take a lot of long runs to get a victory...a string of several in a row can do the trick.

A semi-cancer? It wasn't too long ago that the same cat was dressing up as different characters from week to week, trying to boost's the team's morale. I think the outburst from him last week was frustration from the fact that he's hurt, and the team is losing, and he can't get his pockets straight. I don't condone his actions, in fact, if he had beef, it should have been face to face with Zorn, and not on the John Thompson Show. But calling him a semi-cancer, when this team clearly feeds off of him? I think it's far-fetched.
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Old 12-16-2008, 12:59 PM   #3
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he's always gotten a free pass,,,gibbs 2.0, now zorn. he's the owner's pet, and he aint goin' nowhere. he's having a decent year, but if you check his numbers with skins, he's had a couple not so great years...i.e. under 4.0 a carry.
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Old 12-16-2008, 03:09 PM   #4
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Every team that everybody is naming and all the running backs yall naming have good offensive lines let us get one and yall will be back on clinton portis wagon again.. Man i hate fans that like him then dont like him.. Yall suck i hate far weather fans
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Old 12-16-2008, 09:31 PM   #5
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Every team that everybody is naming and all the running backs yall naming have good offensive lines let us get one and yall will be back on clinton portis wagon again.. Man i hate fans that like him then dont like him.. Yall suck i hate far weather fans
What's a far weather fan? LOL.
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Old 12-16-2008, 03:32 PM   #6
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If every player played their position as well as Portis does we would be unstopable. Definatly in the playoffs. I won't go as far as the Superbowl. But I probably could.
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Old 12-16-2008, 03:39 PM   #7
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ladell betts sucks always has always will
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Old 12-16-2008, 03:59 PM   #8
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ladell betts sucks always has always will
I will always question the desire of a player who willing chose to be a back up.

He could have gotten the same money to start somewhere after 06. Weird. I don't think he sucks though.
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Old 12-16-2008, 09:59 PM   #9
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wow, i come here all the time for opinions that are reasonable. gonna have to log off for a bit and ignore the typical fans i try to avoid. Clinton Portis is a warrior, he is the best player on our team and a leader. How do you call out the league leader in rushing 3 weeks ago when there is plenty of blame to pass around. oh, i get it. popular opinion. Guess you want Zorn gone too. At my end with retards and there retarded opinions. KEEP ZORN, AND PORTIS IS OUR FRANCHISE PLAYER!
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:20 PM   #10
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wow, i come here all the time for opinions that are reasonable. gonna have to log off for a bit and ignore the typical fans i try to avoid. Clinton Portis is a warrior, he is the best player on our team and a leader. How do you call out the league leader in rushing 3 weeks ago when there is plenty of blame to pass around. oh, i get it. popular opinion. Guess you want Zorn gone too. At my end with retards and there retarded opinions. KEEP ZORN, AND PORTIS IS OUR FRANCHISE PLAYER!
Nobody is going to be reasonable after losing 5 out of the last 6 games, unfortunately. I don't know why people are calling Portis out either when there are severe glaring problems wrong with this team. I mean it'd be like calling out Moss for causing the team to lose.

I mean, really? Portis is the least of Redskins organizations worries. The people calling out Portis are probably the type of people that don't want to see things from a big picture perspective and would rather zero in on one problem and then hop around and point at it like a leprachaun doing a jig on hot coals.

Expand your mind and actually attempt to wrap your mind around bigger problems facing the Skins. I feel like everyone is just on Portis' case cause he ran his mouth on the radio instead of handling his problem with Zorn in another way. People all of a sudden started coming out the woodworks saying, "I hate Portis" as soon as he screwed up.

Bet ya nobody was saying that when he was the leading rusher in the NFL a few weeks back, eh?

I certainly don't think Portis is some elite RB on his way to an amazing breakout season, I can even understand people who say Portis has dropped off a little in the past few seasons.

But to for people to sit here and act like Portis is some plague on the hands of the Redskins roster, who has never done anything since being with the team and who hasn't done anything this season is just freaking ridiculous.
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Old 12-17-2008, 02:06 AM   #11
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Re: Portis

Just saw this thread after getting back from travel. Definitely one of the top 5 dumbest threads I've seen on this forum over the past 4 years. If everybody on the team played as hard as Portis, we would be a playoff contender every season. The guy is a stone cold warrior. The grade 2 MCL strain he suffered against Pittsburgh is typically a 4 week injury, yet he didn't miss a game. On top of that, show me another RB who picks up blitzing LBs better than Portis. Between playing hurt and as inept as our passing offense is, the year Portis has had is quite remarkable. The Redskins would be about 4-10 (or worse) at this point without Portis's contributions.
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Old 12-17-2008, 02:25 AM   #12
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At first I chose not to reply to this thread, because I thought this was just an irate guy, who was mudslinging the entire organization, and Portis seemed to fall under that. fter reading the past few pages, and seeing that he has continued to back it up, I felt the need to address it.

To say that Clinton Portis has been clear from criticism for this entire year, would be a farce. He has indeed received criticsm from both within the org and from the media, yet he has played thru pain, and has had an excellent season. He may not be breaking 50 and 60 yd runs, but he is still just as effective. He is a devastating blocker against the rush D, and a hard nosed runner. He has taken the position as a team leader and set an example for his teammates in the offseason.

You claimed that you would rather have the following backs instead of Portis: AP (who was injured prior to him being drafted, and Minny took a chance on him, not knowing whether he was fully healed and returned to normal), Brandon Jacobs(who is currently injured and not playing and may be part of the reason why the Giants are losing), Brian Westbrook(who has been injured for most of the season causing both his team and my fantasy teams to suffer), Michael Turner(who as of last year was LTs backup, and Atl had no real way of knowing whether he would be a bust or not) and DeAngelo Williams(who up until last year was considered a disappointment). You'd rather have these guys, than someone who has proven his toughness and durability and loyalty to this team year in and year out? C'mon. Be serious. Up until our losing streak, the guy was the NFL's leading rusher. No complaints then, huh? But I guess since we're losing everybody deserves to get hated on.
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Old 12-17-2008, 08:26 AM   #13
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well our " average" runningback made the probowl and all the commentators are singing his praises! I guess the EXPERTS see something that most HATERS...I mean fans don't see. We should be laying off portis. He is the heart of our offense!!! Lets start a thread about someone else..Okay!
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Old 12-17-2008, 08:58 AM   #14
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I agree that Portis lacks big play ability. I dont know how anyone argue against that. however he is still a great overall back because, he works his ass off, he rarely fumbles, he is the best blocking back in the league, and he does not make mental errors

he is quite bad at making people miss though, he is not elusive at all. I would not be against getting rid of him as long as we draft a replacement. There are so many great rb's drafted every year in the first 2 rounds consistantly.
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Old 12-18-2008, 05:34 PM   #15
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reading this post pisses me off more than anything. first of all yes it's very frustrating that we continually have seasons that end in disappointment..but that gives no one a reason to blame it on our best player on offense by quite a large margin. we can get nowhere on offense without portis, take out any other player on that squad and we will get by. but if you take out portis then betts can't do nearly as much as portis can. what we need is chemistry, we have the names. we just need time and i'm giving up on cambell and blaming most of this skid on him. i say give zorn another year or so to see what he can do. i say draft o-line cause that's our biggest concern as of now
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