Your Thoughts on the D-line...

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

Yea I must be what you call "psychic" because I was pissed as hell the moment we made this trade.
Call me "psychic that I thought a 34 year old DE who spent his whole off season promoting his celebrity status might not work out.
Call me "psychic" that I didn't think a player who was traded 3 weeks before our first game would be an instant impact.
Call me "psychic" that I was very unhappy that our largest DE was 250lbs.
Call me "psychic" that I was uncomfortable with the fact that Parcells wanted to get rid of him, and not even for a 1st rounder.

Hey and you know what, since I'm apparently "psychic" I will magically predict that a man who just sucked the previous season, has no loyalty to his team, is old as dirt, is going to retire next season and who is unwilling to take a paycut will not deliver on the field? If it was about anything but the money for Taylor at this point he would recognize that he is getting extremely overpaid and take the cut to help out his team. Seriously, If it's not worth it for him to play for 6 million, when he is still worth less, it's clearly all about the money. When a player doesnt give a shit in his final season, he will suck. Period.

Oh and BTW, I told him to retire now, but he said back to me that 8.5 mil in easy money was worth one more season...but no less.

If you were so upset about this you didn't express it when the deal went down... not here at least. I checked your post history and didn't find any of your crystal ball predictions.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Thoughts on the D-Line:

This unit is hardly a dominant force in the league - - but it is not nearly the biggest problem area for the Skins to address going into the 2009 season.


Lorenzo Alexander: Very versatile. That's another way of saying that he has not yet shown himself to be good enough at any one thing that the team will put him at that position and not look to move him around. May be a decent player some day.


Ryan Boschetti: Yawn.


Andre Carter: Solid DE who could start for other teams in the league. You cannot say that about lots of the rest of the defensive linemen on the roster.


Philip Daniels: Coming off injured reserve at age 36 is not an easy thing to do for a defensive lineman in the NFL. If healthy, he is a savvy player who can give good effort if he only has to be in there for 40-50% of the defensive snaps.


Demetric Evans: Hard worker. Gets all he can out of his physical skills. He is NOT worth signing to some kind of long term deal.


Kedric Golston: Still young and developing. Maybe a decent player someday. Keep him around...


Cornelius Griffin: I believe that Father Time is gaining on him rapidly. Maybe he has another year left - - maybe not.


Rob Jackson: Who knows? He hasn't played enough yet to know if he is worth the trouble to wash his uniform from game to game because he doesn't get any grass stains on it.


Anthony Montgomery: Becoming a decent run stopper but he does not get much pressure up the middle on passing plays. He's young and can still get better so you keep him around.


Jason Taylor: Assuming he is completely healed, he is the best DL on the team. Problem is that he is also going into his 13th season ...


Chris Wilson: Who knows? See Rob Jackson comment above...


Overall assessment is that this is a patchwork unit that can play well if the coaches put together game plans that will work to the strengths of these players AND if they can rotate bodies into and out of the games such that they DL does not wear down badly in 4th quarter situations. Last year they wore down badly in more than a couple of 4th quarter situations and that is NOT a good sign given how young most of the group is.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If you were so upset about this you didn't express it when the deal went down... not here at least. I checked your post history and didn't find any of your crystal ball predictions.

Thats interesting Matty. I was just looking at the JT thread the other day and was suprised to see that you were actually against the deal. At least in the posts i read. Good call hindsight. Most people were all for it.

With that said I dont think JT was milking it. of course its easy money but if he's 100% this season he will Ball

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

Yea I must be what you call "psychic" because I was pissed as hell the moment we made this trade.
Call me "psychic that I thought a 34 year old DE who spent his whole off season promoting his celebrity status might not work out.
Call me "psychic" that I didn't think a player who was traded 3 weeks before our first game would be an instant impact.
Call me "psychic" that I was very unhappy that our largest DE was 250lbs.
Call me "psychic" that I was uncomfortable with the fact that Parcells wanted to get rid of him, and not even for a 1st rounder.

Hey and you know what, since I'm apparently "psychic" I will magically predict that a man who just sucked the previous season, has no loyalty to his team, is old as dirt, is going to retire next season and who is unwilling to take a paycut will not deliver on the field? If it was about anything but the money for Taylor at this point he would recognize that he is getting extremely overpaid and take the cut to help out his team. Seriously, If it's not worth it for him to play for 6 million, when he is still worth less, it's clearly all about the money. When a player doesnt give a shit in his final season, he will suck. Period.

Oh and BTW, I told him to retire now, but he said back to me that 8.5 mil in easy money was worth one more season...but no less.

Great, if you're such a psychic, go work for Cerrato or some other NFL team, your vast talents are going to waste in this minor website.

Although, I don't know how much of a psychic you are if the only thing you posted around the time of the Daniels injury was this:

re: 07-20-2008, 03:14 PM
BeastsoftheNFCeast
Special TeamsPhillip Daniels is done for the season, Buzbee also hurt (updated)
well, I dont know exactly what we're going to do about this, but I do no that whatever we do, we are going to severely overpay for it. Jason Taylor or otherwise. Demetric Evans starting would be a huge joke, and james coming off a 2nd torn ACL would be completely ineffective untill at least the end of the season when it is too late. We need somebody else. At least this happened sooner rather than later. :-(

So you only predicted that we were going to overpay..and well a 2nd round for someone who got hurt is overpaying so I give you that much.

[horny4zorny-nohomo]

they already tagged suggs

[The Goat]

Ok i'll admit it... the thought of AH and JT lining up together gets me a little excited. All I hope is that Albert's contract, if he really does sign here, is extremely incentive laden rather than guaranteed (I don't think he'll go for it and I don't think our FO will force it but you know...).

... funny how much the outlook has changed since I started this thread. I really thought our d-line would consist of Evans, Griff, Monty and Carter starting w/ Golston and Lorenzo rotating in at tackle. I hoped for 1) another year of Griff playing like a warrior and 2) Monty finally playing up to his potential which would pay dividends for our ends... haha.

[GridIron26]

Apparently Redskins is considering Chris Canty from Cowboys.. And I think he's good choice?

Skins Like Canty ... and Other Free-Agent Buzz - Redskins Insider

[GTripp0012]

Canty is absoultely a good choice. If he hits the market, I would move the cash from Hall and put it on Canty. Canty is only a year older, and is a better 6 year investment.

Yeah, it would tie a lot of money up at one position, but there's a big difference between 26 and 28 in free agency, which is the difference between Haynesworth and Canty.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Canty is absoultely a good choice. If he hits the market, I would move the cash from Hall and put it on Canty. Canty is only a year older, and is a better 6 year investment.

Yeah, it would tie a lot of money up at one position, but there's a big difference between 26 and 28 in free agency, which is the difference between Haynesworth and Canty.

Any word on whether the Cowboys would be able to afford Canty and Lewis? If not, Canty wouldn't be as expensive as AH, right?

[CRedskinsRule]

I know this is not logical, but I'm not really up for bringing another Cowboy turned Skins guy in. I don't know how well Canty would do, but seems like we have not had terrific success in that regards. (Maybe the B&G glasses are just too strong to see the talent though)

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Apparently Redskins is considering Chris Canty from Cowboys.. And I think he's good choice?

Skins Like Canty ... and Other Free-Agent Buzz - Redskins Insider

I really like this idea. He's durable, plus younger, cheaper, and more versatile than Haynesworth, played college ball at UVA, and we'd be taking a solid contributor from our arch rival.

Although that post on RI says we are looking at Mark Tauscher. Boo. He's 31 and coming off surgery for a torn ACL. Do we really need another O-lineman on the wrong side of 30 coming off injury?? Come on. And it says we have no interest in Brandon Moore, who is a healthy 27 year old guard. Apparently we are looking to add 2 tackles and a guard....

[MTK]

Canty would be a great addition.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Although that post on RI says we are looking at Mark Tauscher. Boo. He's 31 and coming off surgery for a torn ACL. Do we really need another O-lineman on the wrong side of 30 coming off injury?? Come on. And it says we have no interest in Brandon Moore, who is a healthy 27 year old guard. Apparently we are looking to add 2 tackles and a guard....

Perhaps due to cap issues?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I really like this idea. He's durable, plus younger, cheaper, and more versatile than Haynesworth, played college ball at UVA, and we'd be taking a solid contributor from our arch rival.

Although that post on RI says we are looking at Mark Tauscher. Boo. He's 31 and coming off surgery for a torn ACL. Do we really need another O-lineman on the wrong side of 30 coming off injury?? Come on. And it says we have no interest in Brandon Moore, who is a healthy 27 year old guard. Apparently we are looking to add 2 tackles and a guard....

I like the idea of having Canty, hopefully this will quiet any thoughts of going after Haynesworth.

I don't like taking on a 31 year old lineman, unless he comes super cheap. I wonder if Buges is the type that only likes veteran players.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Perhaps due to cap issues?

Well Tauscher isn't exactly a bargain. He's averaged $5M/yr recently. If we're going to pony up that kind of loot, might as well try for the younger, less injured player. That said, I have no idea what kind of money Brandon Moore will be looking for.