How long do you keep Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly if they don't produce?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I understand that the Rams offense has been a giant vortex of suck over the last two years, but I must say that Torry Holt's days of being a great, or even an average NFL receiver are in the past. He can't get off a jam to save his life, and he's just not blazing fast anymore, which makes the fact that he's never been a great route runner more obvious.

Holt still has fantastic hands, so somebody will find a place for him, but he doesn't really change the dynamic of your receiving corps, and hopefully, won't be paid like such. He'd be a really interesting slot receiver, but I'm wondering how his ego would take that.

Well the Pats were not looking for a #1 or #2 (Moss and Welker are doing that already), but I could've seen him as their #3 receiver. Holt may have pulled a Springs and play cheap for the chance of a title as well. Honestly, I don't see Holt as a #2 receiver anywhere as well, but I could see him here as a replacement for Thrash.

[wilsowilso]

Let's see what happens you bitches? Mr. Thomas? Mr. Kelly? Bitches..........

[terpsez11]

Originally Posted by Bill B

OK - lets say the Skins get the same type of production out of Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly this year as they did last. At some point potential has to turn into production and if these two have similar seasons like they did last year how much longer do you keep them on the roster? I know many say WR's need a couple of seasons to develop so I am curious as to how long do the Skins wait for them to produce - 2 years, 3 years, 4 or more?

linking them together is a real mistake..Kelly was hurt..and Thomas improved like a 2nd round receiver..since when do rookies contribute at wideout?..Desean Jackson at Philly caught almost every pass on the same damn McNabb scramble play where he slanted across every seam and was the safety valve..on third down..and he dropped a mess of passes

when will the Skins get some consistent production at QB?...so we can adequately judge the rest of the Offense..people blast our O-linemen and our receiver corp..when it is Jason that plays like he thinks he is still in the SEC

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by terpsez11

linking them together is a real mistake..Kelly was hurt..and Thomas improved like a 2nd round receiver..since when do rookies contribute at wideout?..Desean Jackson at Philly caught almost every pass on the same damn McNabb scramble play where he slanted across every seam and was the safety valve..on third down..and he dropped a mess of passes

when will the Skins get some consistent production at QB?...so we can adequately judge the rest of the Offense..people blast our O-linemen and our receiver corp..when it is Jason that plays like he thinks he is still in the SEC

DeSean Jackson also gave up a TD by spiking the ball before he was in the end zone.

[terpsez11]

Originally Posted by Lotus

DeSean Jackson also gave up a TD by spiking the ball before he was in the end zone.

I wasn't trashing Jackson..the Eagles were so desperate at Wideout they had to rush the kid..something Zorn didn't have to do with Antwaan and Santana


if all things remain the same..DeSean will no doubt be a standout..but we would definitely be leary and scrutinizing any receiver that dropped as many balls

[terpsez11]

and besides when did Thomas and Kelly rise up on the depth chart?...when they get their real chance...then pass judgement

[skinsfan69]

I think we've got to give them 3 years. However if Thomas doesn't grow up then I'd cut him in pre season. It's just not worth it to sit around and baby sit guys. This is pro football. I can understand it taking time to start producing on the field. But I don't want to hear anything about not knowing the plays, not knowing where to line up and running routes too short. Be a pro cause that's what you're paid to do.

[Bill B]

Originally Posted by terpsez11

linking them together is a real mistake..Kelly was hurt..and Thomas improved like a 2nd round receiver..since when do rookies contribute at wideout?..Desean Jackson at Philly caught almost every pass on the same damn McNabb scramble play where he slanted across every seam and was the safety valve..on third down..and he dropped a mess of passes

when will the Skins get some consistent production at QB?...so we can adequately judge the rest of the Offense..people blast our O-linemen and our receiver corp..when it is Jason that plays like he thinks he is still in the SEC

Terpsez - please see attached list for a few rookie wrs that "contributed".....
Young Targets: An Examination of Rookie WRs - Salvatore Marcoccio III - FF Today

Also - the Skins knew Kelly was inujury prone - combining these two is not a mistake - whether a player is on the field and does not produce or a player that is not on the field due to injury after injury and does not produce - you still get the same result - little to no production either way.

[KLHJ2]

Where in the hell is all of this negativity toward Thomas comming from? Talking about he has a bad attitude and needs to grow up etc... The media threw you a little piece of dirt early last season and you guys have ran half way across the planet with it. He started comming around mid season last year. In fact this offseason he is training with Santana Moss in Miami (sorry no link).

I guess he needs to mature more and stop spending time with fans too.

Devin Thomas Makes Friends

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Angry

Where in the hell is all of this negativity toward Thomas comming from? Talking about he has a bad attitude and needs to grow up etc... The media threw you a little piece of dirt early last season and you guys have ran half way across the planet with it. He started comming around mid season last year. In fact this offseason he is training with Santana Moss in Miami (sorry no link).

I guess he needs to mature more and stop spending time with fans too.

Devin Thomas Makes Friends

That's a really nice gesture. It says nothing about his work ethic, but I'm glad he's a good dude.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by GMScud

That's a really nice gesture. It says nothing about his work ethic, but I'm glad he's a good dude.

My work ethic argument was based on the fact that he is working out with Moss in the offseason. I can remember where I read it and now I cannot find a link. Now some jackass is going to come along and question the validity of that statement. I just know it.

If you remember a couple of weeks ago they had an article about Malcolm Kelly already spending time working out at Redskin Park. Well, around the same time frame they had the article about Thomas and Moss working out in Miami. Now it is nowhere to be found. I have a very good memory and the fact that I cannot find it is pissing me off.

[Eknox]

I say we at least give them another year, we did use 2nd round picks on these guy's...

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Angry

My work ethic argument was based on the fact that he is working out with Moss in the offseason. I can remember where I read it and now I cannot find a link. Now some jackass is going to come along and question the validity of that statement. I just know it.

If you remember a couple of weeks ago they had an article about Malcolm Kelly already spending time working out at Redskin Park. Well, around the same time frame they had the article about Thomas and Moss working out in Miami. Now it is nowhere to be found. I have a very good memory and the fact that I cannot find it is pissing me off.

Don't get angry Angry, I saw it too. It's all good.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Angry

My work ethic argument was based on the fact that he is working out with Moss in the offseason. I can remember where I read it and now I cannot find a link. Now some jackass is going to come along and question the validity of that statement. I just know it.

If you remember a couple of weeks ago they had an article about Malcolm Kelly already spending time working out at Redskin Park. Well, around the same time frame they had the article about Thomas and Moss working out in Miami. Now it is nowhere to be found. I have a very good memory and the fact that I cannot find it is pissing me off.

Calm down. SmootSmack mentioned his Miami workouts earlier in this thread, and a friend of mine who trains at Redskins Park confirmed as much with me yesterday. When I mentioned work ethic I was more referring to his 2008 season. I'm sure he was told that better preparation is a condition of employment moving forward.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Bill B

Terpsez - please see attached list for a few rookie wrs that "contributed".....
Young Targets: An Examination of Rookie WRs - Salvatore Marcoccio III - FF Today

Also - the Skins knew Kelly was inujury prone - combining these two is not a mistake - whether a player is on the field and does not produce or a player that is not on the field due to injury after injury and does not produce - you still get the same result - little to no production either way.

Nice article but in it it says:

. Of course picking the right rookie is the key factor. Far and away, most rookies don’t even sniff these totals, so let’s look at some factors that may help one find a rookie gem on draft day.

1. Opportunity: Obviously a rookie needs to receive significant time on the field as a prerequisite for putting up stats that lead to fantasy points. A young wide receiver that is going to sit behind veterans will not help your squad. There’s no need to really explore this factor much further, since it’s quite apparent all who appear on the list above must have received an opportunity to see playing time as first year players due to either superior talent or injury to a teammate.

Bottom line really is that last year neither were on the field due to various reasons, including the fact that Moss and ARE were NOT going to be benched out the gate.

This is a good year for the offense to take a maturation step across the board and show that it can win games for us when the D does its job.