Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins

[FRPLG]

I am tired of the FA bashing...

Look around the league. Percentage-wise we are as good as anybody at hitting on these guys. Gross gain we are the best in the league by a wide margin because of our overall volume. Complain about our trading of draft picks. At least that holds water.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So none of our FA's have been smart moves?

How about Fletcher for starters?

I was in a pissy mood last night. The Jason Taylor thing annoyed me, the Caps ruined my night, and I was tired from a really long day.

You and SS are right. More positives than negatives in FA for sure. Some of the negatives are just really, really awful. That's all I was thinking of I guess.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

I am tired of the FA bashing...

Look around the league. Percentage-wise we are as good as anybody at hitting on these guys. Gross gain we are the best in the league by a wide margin because of our overall volume. Complain about our trading of draft picks. At least that holds water.

I've been bitching about that for a long time.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm sure we'll be talking about this in 2019...the move backfired on us, it sucks, you move on.

Hopefully we will have the same success with the return of Dockery that many are predicting the Dolphins will have with Taylor

that's a really good point.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by dmek25

if Taylor had 10+ sacks last year, would any of you guys sing the praises of a job well done by Cerrato? i kind of doubt it. we needed a defensive end, and they brought in the best player available( at least in their eyes)

Well, remember, the cost was a pretty hefty second round pick. So 10+ sacks alone would not have justified the trade, it would have also been graded on how well he played the run, and whether or not he would have been a factor in 2010.

Orakpo has 10+ sack potential, but if he posts sack totals of: 2, 10, 3, 4, 4 in his first five seasons, most of us will be thinking bust. I'm not predicting that, I'm just saying.

What I'm saying is: it's really hard for Cerrato to win a trade where he sells, out of desperation, a first day pick for a 34 year old smallish end who was a bad scheme fit. If he plays great for two seasons, and everyone agrees that he was great, you can sweep the cost under the rug. If he disappoints expectations at all, the cost hurts.

Originally Posted by Sonny9TD

Well that's interesting. We still need a QB but it's still interesting. Brian O. is the real deal I think.

Thats the 2nd part to why this could really work out for us. Since the Skins didnt have the ammo to trade up for Sanchez and Orakpo fell in our laps it now sets up the Skins to get a QB in the insane class of 2010.

Its pretty crazy to think that just because we didnt have that 2nd rounder we got a steal in Orakpo and since we didnt reach for Sanchez we can get a QB in 2010 if Campbell doesnt pan out. Id rather have Bradford, McCoy, Tebow, or Snead over Sanchez.

[MTK]

Well we also have to consider if they wanted Sanchez bad enough they could have coughed up multiple picks next year, nothing was stopping them from doing that. (Except for a little common sense, maybe they have some after all?)

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Several weeks ago I remember reading part of an article where the writer said there was some clause in NFL rules that said if a team traded a player, then the player was back on the same by the time the next season started, the players original team had to give the draft pick back.

This was an article on extremeskins.com/breaking news. I'm assuming that since no one else is talking about this, then it means that article must have come out on april fools, so it was just a joke. Anyone ever hear of anything like that?

Also, techinically, we "released" Mark Brunell, but the way we did it, we were still able to get a 7th round Compensatory pick for him, as if he were a FA - is there any way the same could apply to how we handled Taylors contract?

I realize both those thoughts represent nothing more than grasping at straws, but it would be nice if we got some sort of compensation for that loser.

Originally Posted by dmek25

if Taylor had 10+ sacks last year, would any of you guys sing the praises of a job well done by Cerrato? i kind of doubt it. we needed a defensive end, and they brought in the best player available( at least in their eyes)

I liked the move and if Taylor wasnt hurt he would of had a pretty good year imo. The game he had week 16 vs the Eagles was the main reason why we won that game imo.

I give Cerrato credit for making a move like that when we needed help at the position badly. I also give him credit for drafting Orakpo and not screwing that pick up. Cerrato's track record is against him but he has done some nice things in DC over the last 2 years.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Several weeks ago I remember reading part of an article where the writer said there was some clause in NFL rules that said if a team traded a player, then the player was back on the same by the time the next season started, the players original team had to give the draft pick back.

This was an article on extremeskins.com/breaking news. I'm assuming that since no one else is talking about this, then it means that article must have come out on april fools, so it was just a joke. Anyone ever hear of anything like that?

LOL. You're thinking of this

http://phinphanatic.com/2009/04/01/s...nd-round-pick/

I guess ES linked to it, you gotta stop taking ES so seriously.

Also, techinically, we "released" Mark Brunell, but the way we did it, we were still able to get a 7th round Compensatory pick for him, as if he were a FA - is there any way the same could apply to how we handled Taylors contract?

I realize both those thoughts represent nothing more than grasping at straws, but it would be nice if we got some sort of compensation for that loser.

I don't believe we released Brunell

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So none of our FA's have been smart moves?

How about Fletcher for starters?

They do hit on some but to be honest Fletcher was a Greg Williams move all the way. It's not like bringing in Fletch. was this brillant find. He wanted to play with his old defensive coordinator. Actually if they would've just paid Pierce then we wouldn't have the need to sign Fletcher in the first place.

I think the FO actually does a decent job of drafting guys. I just wish they'd do it more often and then reward the guys that deserve it.

[SBXVII]

To be honest, someone joking said something about JT coming to us then leaving after 1 yr. Unfortunatly that was a chance we had to take. No one knew we would have a DE go down in training camp and need a replacement, but....people have been clamoring about needing back up lineman.

I sucks that we only had him one yr and got very little production, lost 2 picks (wasn't it a 2nd and a 6th), and came up empty in the end. One would only hope the league would look at it and say "somethings not right, lets give the Skins a pick to compensate." but that won't happen.

We got schooled....yet again by the Tuna. now I can only hope whatever picks he got out of it suck and he has to let them go. lol.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

I liked the move and if Taylor wasnt hurt he would of had a pretty good year imo. The game he had week 16 vs the Eagles was the main reason why we won that game imo.

I give Cerrato credit for making a move like that when we needed help at the position badly. I also give him credit for drafting Orakpo and not screwing that pick up. Cerrato's track record is against him but he has done some nice things in DC over the last 2 years.

Yeah, a lot of Redskins fans get convenient memories after the fact. There was a high level of anticipation and excitement once we made the deal last summer. Nothing in Taylor's history would have predicted 2 leg injuries in the first 6 weeks of him being a Redskin.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Not if his number one reason is to retire after this year as a Miami Dolphin.

He could've done that anyways.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Seriously, who cares.

I guess the Skins are the only team in the league that have moves that don't work out.

We have some of the most glaringly obvious. This one by itself, no big deal; but then we're missing the forest for the trees if that's all that we're looking at. This one did seem like the most "sure" out of our gaffs though.