Redskins' Secondary Woes

[RedBar]

What a Trip!

[JLee9718]

Barnes looked good. And Randy Moss will make anybody look bad. I can't believe the Pats got him for just a 3rd or 4th round pick.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by RedBar

GTripp, GTripp, GTripp, you really ought to write a book. I didn't know what part of that rant to quote, it's hard to take me seriously and it gets under your skin when a person "is to lazy to look past one point," well sir practice what you preach. Yes, this defense has room to improve but the fact that you don't know if the defense is to blame for the offensive woes, and that you could care a less about points allowed as long as we improve, and all this logic stuff tells me that it is probably best that you remain a sports blog philosopher/bully and not a football coach because at the very end of the day it is about wins and losses and defenses help teams win by keeping points off the board. You can miss the forest for the trees and worry about how statistically sound we are I'll take a defense that gives up 18.5ppg and an offense that can score 19.

Trust me when I say that I have no issue practicing what I preach. Sorry to bully you around with sound logic.

I also would take a defense that gives up 18.5 PPG and an offense that scored 19. Except that just makes you an 8-8 team. Which is what we were last year. The key is to improve both units so the defense gives up 16 PPG and the offense scores 20.5 PPG. That's an 11-5 team with two top ten units.

Wouldn't we all get along so much better if that was the case? If it's about wins and losses, 11-5 would be better than 8-8.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Thaler's Thoughts: Preseason Game No. 3

Uhhh, in the words of Walter Sobchak: "He's crackin"

Not sure why Blache is so worked up except to suspect maybe the Danny and Vinnie are asking similar questions of him and he feels the heat where it counts the most? Not sure. Maybe those who think Blache is hiding his regular season scheme are correct (I sure hope so). But again onlookers see a defense boasting phat Al, B. Orakpo and a handful of pretty talented supporting players, but very little pressure on the QB. Questions are basically inevitable and Blache better get used to fielding them unless we see real improvement.

[The Goat]

I think it's fair to say we missed Los last night...so long as it's the Los who covered TO in the last season's first meeting. I hope and pray Los has a great year. I hope he's a probowler this season. I think he's got the talent. His head needs to be in the right place.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Not sure I agree that we have or will have "woes" in the secondary. A good pass rush cures all, and even then, I like the talent in the secondary to begin with.

Question is though is how good will our pass rush be when the games count? I am sure that it will be better than last season, but that is not saying much.

[RedBar]

Yeah that'd be great, and maybe we could just play these games on paper or even better not keep score and then sim them on your computer and let you tell us who virtually won. I probably should have clarified: a want to be bully cuz honestly I'm not smelling what your cooking.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by RedBar

Yeah that'd be great, and maybe we could just play these games on paper or even better not keep score and then sim them on your computer and let you tell us who virtually won. I probably should have clarified: a want to be bully cuz honestly I'm not smelling what your cooking.

Then why bother commenting?

[RedBar]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Then why bother commenting?

That is probably the most insightful comment you have posited on this thread. Thanks Tripp!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by RedBar

That is probably the most insightful comment you have posited on this thread. Thanks Tripp!

I struggle to understand your way of thinking. Perhaps I'd be better off not responding to you.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Uhhh, in the words of Walter Sobchak: "He's crackin"

Not sure why Blache is so worked up except to suspect maybe the Danny and Vinnie are asking similar questions of him and he feels the heat where it counts the most? Not sure. Maybe those who think Blache is hiding his regular season scheme are correct (I sure hope so). But again onlookers see a defense boasting phat Al, B. Orakpo and a handful of pretty talented supporting players, but very little pressure on the QB. Questions are basically inevitable and Blache better get used to fielding them unless we see real improvement.

What do people want to hear? In case everyone out there doesn't notice Andre Carter isn't a top NFL pass rusher. He may not even be average. Orakpo is a rookie and although he is playing well in pre seaosn games, let's hold off in calling him the next Derreck Thomas or Dwight Freeney. Everyone is ready to crown the guy and he hasn't played ONE regular season game. Haynesworth isn't known for rushing the passer. He may be the best DT in the NFL but he IS NOT not Reggie White. Daniels and Griff can't rush the passer. Blache isn't going to come out and tell people this. He's not going to tell the media that we still might not have the personel to put the QB on his ass. But that still doesn't mean we can't be a good defense.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What do people want to hear? In case everyone out there doesn't notice Andre Carter isn't a top NFL pass rusher. He may not even be average. Orakpo is a rookie and although he is playing well in pre seaosn games, let's hold off in calling him the next Derreck Thomas or Dwight Freeney. Everyone is ready to crown the guy and he hasn't played ONE regular season game. Haynesworth isn't known for rushing the passer. He may be the best DT in the NFL but he IS NOT not Reggie White. Daniels and Griff can't rush the passer. Blache isn't going to come out and tell people this. He's not going to tell the media that we still might not have the personel to put the QB on his ass. But that still doesn't mean we can't be a good defense.

Actually AH is known for rushing the passer. He has more sacks over the last couple of years than any other defensive tackle in football. He is no defensive end, true, but he still gets after the passer well.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Actually AH is known for rushing the passer. He has more sacks over the last couple of years than any other defensive tackle in football. He is no defensive end, true, but he still gets after the passer well.

and on the 2nd pass to Moss, AH had pushed his blocker all the way back to Brady, if Brady held on maybe one second longer AH would have had a hand on him.

[NYCskinfan82]

Loved that Blache interview after the game, in my opinion he was right reporters need to ask new questions the same questions every week can get boring. He shut that reporter up.

[RedBar]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What do people want to hear? In case everyone out there doesn't notice Andre Carter isn't a top NFL pass rusher. He may not even be average. Orakpo is a rookie and although he is playing well in pre seaosn games, let's hold off in calling him the next Derreck Thomas or Dwight Freeney. Everyone is ready to crown the guy and he hasn't played ONE regular season game. Haynesworth isn't known for rushing the passer. He may be the best DT in the NFL but he IS NOT not Reggie White. Daniels and Griff can't rush the passer. Blache isn't going to come out and tell people this. He's not going to tell the media that we still might not have the personel to put the QB on his ass. But that still doesn't mean we can't be a good defense.

I think this is easily forgotten in the hype leading up to a season. Of course we love our home town players and we love to see them excel but just because we love and follow them closely doesn't mean they can necessarily do what other guys at their position around the league can do. I think Blache loves his guys, their toughness, they are high character guys that are intelligent and that he can trust. But that won't magically turn AC into Dwight Freeney or Shawn Merriman. What do they want the guy to say? Do they want him to say that AC or Cornelius or Horton or anyone else isn't quite ready for all pro just yet. I am pretty sure you won't get that out of him. Or maybe he should just send 6 or 7 guys whenever we get into a third and long so the statisticians can put a 1 in the sack column.