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Old 10-11-2009, 10:24 AM   #76
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Re: Who would you get rid of for 2010?

Everybody with a huge contract that doesnt produce..
Its time to completely rebuild...that means an oline, and a franchise qb
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:30 AM   #77
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Can't cut JC if you can help it. Collins is going to take off/get released and then you are just stuck with Brennan, who is a disaster waiting to happen in my book. Need someone with starting experience. Portis still can produce, upgrade the line and he will get his groove back somewhat. Zorn is good as gone. Mr. Snyder brought him here as a last resort, as the "sexy" HC candidates stayed out.
No need to cut JC. His contract is up. He'll make a fine backup elsewhere. And none of the elite teams in the NFL would re-sign an aging RB with the wear and tear Portis has. Time to start doing as the better franchises do.

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Old 10-11-2009, 10:54 AM   #78
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#1 Portis - and I hate saying that because I have been a very big supporter of him the past few years. I think he can still grind it and get 100 a game, but just for the simple fact that his act seems to be wearing thin in the locker room.

#2 Randel El - I really think he is just not needed. Overpaid #3 receiver.

#3 Moss - I dont think he is a #1 receiver in this league. he never seems to get open on a regular basis. I look at Andre Johnson, Randy Moss, TO, Steve Smith all the #1's in the league and they always find a way to get 4 to 7 balls a game. We do NOT have a #1 on the roster. We haven't won with him there, so why keep trying.

#4 Carter - were giving him big money and he hasn't been a consistant performer since getting here. another overpaid player that is average at best. He is suppose to be a rush end, he doesn't generate a lot of pressure and doesn't play the run very well, so really why keep him.

#5 Griffin - has been a really good player for us for a number of years, but we need to get younger. Montgomery and Golston played well last year, give the job to one of them, or rotate them with Hayensworth.

I am not saying Campbell - I think he has the ability to be an effective QB and win some games. If he were to ever get comfortable in a system and just be able to play on instinct instead of having to learn a new system every year or two i think he could be a very good QB. He has the arm, the mobility and the willingness to work hard, study and wants to be good. The determination he has shown to learn and be THE GUY is impressive to me. Those are the kinds of players I want on my team.

I guess I should have put this at the top, but my #1 overall would be the combination of Snyder of Cerato, they would be gone if I had the ability to get people out
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Old 10-11-2009, 11:30 AM   #79
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So you guys want to basically fire everyone, cut everyone, trade everyone but will be bitching and complaining about how badly we suck again. Odd.
i think it depends on if you believe we are closer to success than failure. Personally, I don't think we're "one or two guys" away from being a contender. I think you need a certain culture to consistently win and we have some players that need to go in order for that to happen. To me, model franchises are Pats, Chargers, Eagles(just threw up in my mouth) and Steelers. What they have in common is that one player is never bigger than the team, they build wisely through the draft and they don't sentimentally hang on to players. It hasn't wo the Chargers or Eagles a superbowl, but they've been quality teams now for what, last 5-6 years? I'd take that over this clusterfuck any day.
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:36 PM   #80
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Betts, Rock, Daniels, Smoot, Collins

Betts not productive anymore. Will probably be 31 next year.
Rock is not a difference maker will be 31 next year. DT can take his place.
Daniels getting old. Need to let some young guys get a chance so we can build our D-line for the future.
Smoot - If Barnes and Tryon develop. He is on the decline.
Collins - Old - If we get rid of him we could sign JC as a backup (why? it will be a uncapped seson - depends on if we are still running the WCO and how he does the rest of the year) and bring in or draft another QB and have Colt as the 3rd QB.
I doubt that happens. I'm sure JC is tired of all the BS that has gone on here and most likely thinks he's starting material. I'll bet he goes elswhere to start knowing the team wants to make him a backup. They might get away with it with a new HC saying the position is up for grabs and make him the back up.
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:38 PM   #81
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How would it take the average QB to master a 700 page playbook? Answer is years and TC was in that system in KC for years. C'mon man you know as well as i know that the playbook expand when he came in for those 4 games. So that made a big difference Saunders had more confidence in him because he spent more time in his system than JC. I don't think folks really understand how hard it is to be a NFL QB. Moreless, a NFL QB that changes systems every year or so. Imagine have to learn the position of QB and a whole new system at once repeatedly. The growing pains for that individual is a lot longer then others. Stability is the key to success in running an organization which we haven't that the last pass 10 year.
Yeah, tell that to Atlanta, Baltimore, Detroit, and New Jersey.
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:45 PM   #82
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For all the people calling for Campbell to go and draft another QB... is he the problem with the offense? I'm not someone who's on his bandwagon, but I surely don't want to see him gone considering he's going to be better than most rookies and a lot of starting QBs currently.

For those wanting him gone, which presumably would mean we're drafting QB with our first pick and ignoring OL AGAIN, would Peyton Manning or Tom Brady have made us competitive? I really don't think so. It's in the trenches where the problems lie (at least on the offensive side of the ball) and that's what needs to be addressed. Basically, I'd just want to get rid of some veterans on the defensive side of the ball who aren't the same as they used to be.
Let me ask you this, if the O-line is the issue then I presume you are refering to them not blocking well. You might have a point with the run blocking or it might be the type of blocking they are being told to use. As to pass blocking how much time should they give JC to get the pass off? On almost every play they are giving him 3-7 seconds which is normal in the NFL. If JC knows a blitz is coming he needs to change out of the play given and change to a slant or quick pass option. He doesn't do that. His WR's are not getting open enough for him to feel comfortable threading the ball to them. Just my feelings.
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Yeah, tell that to Atlanta, Baltimore, Detroit, and New Jersey.
Did you read the next sentence in my post?
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:51 PM   #84
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Don't you guys think this is way too early?? But once again, this is the warparth, I'm not supposed to be surprise I guess..

Smoot, R. Thomas, Cartwright, and Betts would be my choices.. And not resign Phillips, Wynn (assuming we resign him back after our punter Smith recovers) and Collins.. I also would try to restructure Randle El and Portis' contracts to lesser value..
Absolutly not. If this team started out bad last yr and progressed to the 6-2 season to end up 8-8 we would feel comfortable knowing the team is getting better and will ride through this rough stretch, but that's not the case. We went 6-2 most likely with teams not knowing what we were trying to do with out game film to study our 50 plays last yr to a 2-6 end of season. We got worse. If this yr started out with a bang and we had to losses to tough teams then people would feel more comfortable. Instead we lost to a good team and a really bad team. Squeeked by to other bad teams. The loss to a bad team and the two squeeked games is what has people feeling we are not going to compete against the tough teams down the stretch. So in essance we are just contimplating what we should do next yr after Zorn is gone.
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Old 10-11-2009, 12:55 PM   #85
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So you guys want to basically fire everyone, cut everyone, trade everyone but will be bitching and complaining about how badly we suck again. Odd.
Atleast if we suck we'll have a reason to know why. Plus we will know the team is building continuity with no name players vs. primidona's.
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Old 10-11-2009, 01:04 PM   #86
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Did you read the next sentence in my post?
Sorry I missed that.
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Old 10-11-2009, 01:11 PM   #87
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Sorry I missed that.
It's amazing how you believe changing systems every year or two doesn't affect ones development? Especially when it date back to his high school years to now. i missed the fact you don't have common sense as well
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Old 10-11-2009, 01:21 PM   #88
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Re: Who would you get rid of for 2010?

Jimmy Johnson just got done bagging on the Redskins on the FOX NFL Pregame Show. Though I slightly disagree with a couple of his observations, I believe that he is pretty much correct. He was saying some of the same things that we have been saying. If we aren't in the hunt at season's end...BLOW IT UP!
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