Clinton Portis among players who have worn out their welcome

joethiesmanfan · 10-30-2009, 10:04 AM

My point is this. He drops passes, fumbles (more than Moss), and is not a very good blocker. I like Cooley, but I am sickeneed by people crticising Portis, Moss, and everybody else and not criticzing Cooley. He has cost us first downs and Cooley has turned the ball over. Stop with the blow up the roster mess, we need a young runnning back and rebuild the O-line. Keep Portis and the new young stub, that's how most teams do it. People are cherry picking performances.

Ruhskins · 10-30-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

My point is this. He drops passes, fumbles (more than Moss), and is not a very good blocker. I like Cooley, but I am sickeneed by people crticising Portis, Moss, and everybody else and not criticzing Cooley. He has cost us first downs and Cooley has turned the ball over. Stop with the blow up the roster mess, we need a young runnning back and rebuild the O-line. Keep Portis and the new young stub, that's how most teams do it. People are cherry picking performances.

I think you are doing the same.

Furthermore, I don't understand the concept of defending some players (Portis, Moss) by criticizing another (Cooley). And why are you trying to make something out of nothing by making Cooley out to be the problem.

redsk1 · 10-30-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

My point is this. He drops passes, fumbles (more than Moss), and is not a very good blocker. I like Cooley, but I am sickeneed by people crticising Portis, Moss, and everybody else and not criticzing Cooley. He has cost us first downs and Cooley has turned the ball over. Stop with the blow up the roster mess, we need a young runnning back and rebuild the O-line. Keep Portis and the new young stub, that's how most teams do it. People are cherry picking performances.

Cooley is a team guy, doesn't complain, produces in an offense w/out a good QB, good oline, and w/out a good coach. He's a top 7 or 8 TE in the league consistently. Since 2005, i think he's top 5 in catches. He's an adequate blocker, not below average.

So that's not cherry picking. That's facts. CP has produced no doubt, but i think his act has gotten a little old.

MTK · 10-30-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

My point is this. He drops passes, fumbles (more than Moss), and is not a very good blocker. I like Cooley, but I am sickeneed by people crticising Portis, Moss, and everybody else and not criticzing Cooley. He has cost us first downs and Cooley has turned the ball over. Stop with the blow up the roster mess, we need a young runnning back and rebuild the O-line. Keep Portis and the new young stub, that's how most teams do it. People are cherry picking performances.

And you're not cherry picking with the dick pic?

I've got no problem with some constructive criticism, but taking an innocent mistake and spinning it into character issues is a bit extreme.

SkinFanatic · 10-30-2009, 10:21 AM

You have to look at this from the perspective of the new coach coming in here. He's going to look at this team and perform triage, deciding what parts need scrapping and what we can work with for another year. Cooley and Moss fall in the later. Campbell and Portis are on the fence. The O-line, defensive backfield and receiving corps need the most attention. But some of these guys may be trade fodder for free agents or draft picks. It's not going to happen all at once. Personally I think Cooley stays.

Lotus · 10-30-2009, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

And you're not cherry picking with the dick pic?

I've got no problem with some constructive criticism, but taking an innocent mistake and spinning it into character issues is a bit extreme.

There's a line that you don't hear every day.

Chevy13 · 10-30-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

There's a line that you don't hear every day.

lol well damn I posted this thread and haven't had time to see if anyone had posted on it, but it's nice to see this thread got a lot more interesting than I thought it would! Who knew posting about Portis wearing out his welcome would result in conversation of Cooley's dick!!

joethiesmanfan what are you on? I thought I had all the best shit on the market!!??

SmootSmack · 10-30-2009, 10:07 AM

Now is the best time to move Portis. As 12th Man said earlier in this thread, and Pocket$ has said in other threads...better to move someone a year too early than a year too late

celts32 · 10-30-2009, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Now is the best time to move Portis. As 12th Man said earlier in this thread, and Pocket$ has said in other threads...better to move someone a year too early than a year too late

Do you really believe Portis has any value in trade? He is one of the highest paid RB's in the league and it's pretty much a known fact that he's lost a step. I can't even see them getting a 7th round pick for him simply because no other team would pay that contract.

MTK · 10-30-2009, 10:07 AM

When Cooley screws up, people call him on it. People have always called him on the fumbling.

And as Ruhskins says above, there are plenty of other guys more responsible for this mess.

Cooley has been one of the lone bright spots.

joethiesmanfan · 10-30-2009, 10:22 AM

If Cerrato can do the same type of job with the O-line this coming off-season, like he did with he D-line last off-season, we good.

celts32 · 10-30-2009, 10:22 AM

You can not change the culture of that team with Portis still around. He is to close to ownership...he does and says what he wants...he practices when he wants...he's a terrible example for the other players. To put it simple...he is a team cancer.

MTK · 10-30-2009, 10:38 AM

I know everyone is down on CP, and I do think it's getting close to where we should look to move on from him, with a capable OL I think he can still be a very effective RB.

joethiesmanfan · 10-30-2009, 10:47 AM

Cherry picking is my point. When I cherry pick a Pro Bowl player like Cooley, that's bad, but when everyone else cherry picks a Pro Bowl player like Portis, that's good. Ung Munga !!!! That's my point I am making while having fun playing devil's advocate. Fact of the matter is, Portis is way more valuable to this team than Cooley. He has produced on a level as a RB that no TE can match on any team. Stop with the get rid of Moss and Portis. They are the Redskins plus Cooley on offense. Why punish them because we have no second option to releieve Portis, or a second receiver to take doubles off of Moss? Well actually we do have a second option at WR finally, but Zorn don't know what he doing.

joethiesmanfan · 10-30-2009, 11:05 AM

MattyK72

I want to place a bet with you. If the Redskins win the next 3 games, which they will, then you give me the ability to post? How about it? I want to post in the non-football category. I want to truly explore Trample the Elderly's philosophical dichotemy. Tryfuhl, glad you made your comments. Is it me or did Cooley look like a straight fruit cake while being carted off the field with his bright blonde hair do? LOL!!!

10-30-2009, 10:04 AM	#1
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: Clinton Portis among players who have worn out their welcome My point is this. He drops passes, fumbles (more than Moss), and is not a very good blocker. I like Cooley, but I am sickeneed by people crticising Portis, Moss, and everybody else and not criticzing Cooley. He has cost us first downs and Cooley has turned the ball over. Stop with the blow up the roster mess, we need a young runnning back and rebuild the O-line. Keep Portis and the new young stub, that's how most teams do it. People are cherry picking performances.

10-30-2009, 10:21 AM	#5
SkinFanatic Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stafford, VA Age: 66 Posts: 49	Re: Clinton Portis among players who have worn out their welcome You have to look at this from the perspective of the new coach coming in here. He's going to look at this team and perform triage, deciding what parts need scrapping and what we can work with for another year. Cooley and Moss fall in the later. Campbell and Portis are on the fence. The O-line, defensive backfield and receiving corps need the most attention. But some of these guys may be trade fodder for free agents or draft picks. It's not going to happen all at once. Personally I think Cooley stays. __________________ GM First

10-30-2009, 10:07 AM	#8
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Clinton Portis among players who have worn out their welcome Now is the best time to move Portis. As 12th Man said earlier in this thread, and Pocket$ has said in other threads...better to move someone a year too early than a year too late __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-30-2009, 10:07 AM	#10
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,043	Re: Clinton Portis among players who have worn out their welcome When Cooley screws up, people call him on it. People have always called him on the fumbling. And as Ruhskins says above, there are plenty of other guys more responsible for this mess. Cooley has been one of the lone bright spots. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-30-2009, 10:22 AM	#11
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: Clinton Portis among players who have worn out their welcome If Cerrato can do the same type of job with the O-line this coming off-season, like he did with he D-line last off-season, we good.

10-30-2009, 10:22 AM	#12
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 54 Posts: 2,665	Re: Clinton Portis among players who have worn out their welcome You can not change the culture of that team with Portis still around. He is to close to ownership...he does and says what he wants...he practices when he wants...he's a terrible example for the other players. To put it simple...he is a team cancer. __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

10-30-2009, 10:38 AM	#13
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,043	Re: Clinton Portis among players who have worn out their welcome I know everyone is down on CP, and I do think it's getting close to where we should look to move on from him, with a capable OL I think he can still be a very effective RB. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

10-30-2009, 10:47 AM	#14
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: Clinton Portis among players who have worn out their welcome Cherry picking is my point. When I cherry pick a Pro Bowl player like Cooley, that's bad, but when everyone else cherry picks a Pro Bowl player like Portis, that's good. Ung Munga !!!! That's my point I am making while having fun playing devil's advocate. Fact of the matter is, Portis is way more valuable to this team than Cooley. He has produced on a level as a RB that no TE can match on any team. Stop with the get rid of Moss and Portis. They are the Redskins plus Cooley on offense. Why punish them because we have no second option to releieve Portis, or a second receiver to take doubles off of Moss? Well actually we do have a second option at WR finally, but Zorn don't know what he doing.

10-30-2009, 11:05 AM	#15
joethiesmanfan The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,163	Re: Clinton Portis among players who have worn out their welcome MattyK72 I want to place a bet with you. If the Redskins win the next 3 games, which they will, then you give me the ability to post? How about it? I want to post in the non-football category. I want to truly explore Trample the Elderly's philosophical dichotemy. Tryfuhl, glad you made your comments. Is it me or did Cooley look like a straight fruit cake while being carted off the field with his bright blonde hair do? LOL!!!

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