Mora out in Seattle, Pete Carroll in

DynamiteRave · 01-10-2010, 06:24 PM

I kind of think the Rooney Rule is a joke. I mean, if a team already has a candidate in mind, they're just going to grab the closest black person they can, throw an interview at them and then hire the the other person.

What was wrong with the NFL before the Rooney Rule was instated anyway?

Hog1 · 01-10-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I kind of think the Rooney Rule is a joke. I mean, if a team already has a candidate in mind, they're just going to grab the closest black person they can, throw an interview at them and then hire the the other person.

What was wrong with the NFL before the Rooney Rule was instated anyway?

The NFL before the Rooney was GREAT, but by virtue of the low number (or non-existent) of black coaches in a pre-dominantly black sport....it was not as great for.....all.
While I agree with you that if you have your guy already, you are probably are going to hire him. AND I believe you should be able to so. IN that scenario, I think it is ineffective for THAT position.
I think it has some merit as at least you are gaining interview skills and hopefully your name is being passed around as a "possible" candidate. Sooo, the NEXT int...maybe you get a real shot.

tryfuhl · 01-10-2010, 07:48 PM

You figure coaches until recently were typically 20-40 years older than their players, so it makes sense that there were a lot more white head coaches. Even if you factor in a lot of black players in the 70s and on it takes awhile to come from playing to coaching... or whatever other coaching that they were doing at the time. I think that the number of black coaches we have now isn't really impacted by the rule, just the increase in available candidates. The number of black head coaches is quite higher than the actual demographics of the population, not as far as players, but not every player can be a coach, not every player wants to be a coach, not every coach was a player at a high level, etc

erik2680 · 01-11-2010, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Zorn on the 4th of July

So this makes our pick at 4th more valuable, right? Hasslebeck isn't a young guy, but a great mentor to the franchise QB that Seattle needs (plus the new Seattle coach may want a new QB). Since The Warpath can't even come close to a consensus on do-we-or-don't-we draft a QB with the 4th pick, do we trade down with Seattle so they can get in position for a top QB?

Since we are not that good of a team right now I think it would be smarter for the Seahawks to start drafting Offensive Linemen & wide receivers.

I would rather have Pete Carroll as our General manager instead of a coach.(But I think he is better then Mora as a coach)

Monkeydad · 01-11-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

What else does Carrol have to prove in college? Might as well take the big payday and try to prove himself on the next level. If the Seahawks are able to bring in Carrol then canning Mora was a no-brainer.

I think the timing has more to with USC's possible probation from Bowl games coming up, from all of the alleged corruption in their recruiting/athletic department. If there's no big games in their foreseable future, what's the incentive for the coach to stay? Also, he wants to grab a lifeboat before the ship goes down.

SmootSmack · 01-11-2010, 11:12 AM

I'm not positive...but I think I heard that USC is going to go after Jeff Fisher.

53Fan · 01-11-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm not positive...but I think I heard that USC is going to go after Jeff Fisher.

I've heard the same thing. I think he's due a lot of money the last 2 years of his contract in Tennesse though. Seems like I heard something like that.

sportscurmudgeon · 01-11-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm not positive...but I think I heard that USC is going to go after Jeff Fisher.

USC would be smart to get a big name head coach to keep their recruiting momentum going. Fisher - - or even Del Rio (another USC grad) - - might be just the right pick.

HOW-EVAH, the USC football coach has to work for Mike Garrett as the AD. Let's just say that Garrett's reputation as a "supervisor" is less than pristine and leave it at that.

53Fan · 01-11-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

USC would be smart to get a big name head coach to keep their recruiting momentum going. Fisher - - or even Del Rio (another USC grad) - - might be just the right pick.

HOW-EVAH, the USC football coach has to work for Mike Garrett as the AD. Let's just say that Garrett's reputation as a "supervisor" is less than pristine and leave it at that.

From what I've heard, Del Rio would be more interested in USC than USC would be in him.

saden1 · 01-11-2010, 06:30 PM

It's going to be amazing living in Seattle the next two years and watching Pete Carroll try to win with the Hawks.

itvnetop · 01-11-2010, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

USC would be smart to get a big name head coach to keep their recruiting momentum going. Fisher - - or even Del Rio (another USC grad) - - might be just the right pick.

HOW-EVAH, the USC football coach has to work for Mike Garrett as the AD. Let's just say that Garrett's reputation as a "supervisor" is less than pristine and leave it at that.

Thankfully, Rich McKay may be replacing Garrett (who basically sacrificed our hoops program this year to assuage football penalties... which are probably coming down hard anyway).

Latest rumor is that Del Rio is the man- bringing Kennedy Pola along with him. Possibly Norm Chow returning too. I think we'd need to chase Orgeron to complete the staff.

SBXVII · 01-11-2010, 10:05 PM

Ha, Ha, Ha...... and people say our team is a joke. Yeah we conducted interviews for a new HC while the job was still filled but our HC knew he was not returning. If he didn't he was an idiot.

Mora Jr. was told he would be kept the HC and 48 hrs later told he was fired after all the Carroll rumors. LOL. Talk about back stabbing.

tryfuhl · 01-12-2010, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by itvnetop

Thankfully, Rich McKay may be replacing Garrett (who basically sacrificed our hoops program this year to assuage football penalties... which are probably coming down hard anyway).

Latest rumor is that Del Rio is the man- bringing Kennedy Pola along with him. Possibly Norm Chow returning too. I think we'd need to chase Orgeron to complete the staff.

Thought that I read something saying Chow was staying at UCLA and it was just a rehash of earlier rumors.

itvnetop · 01-12-2010, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Thought that I read something saying Chow was staying at UCLA and it was just a rehash of earlier rumors.

well there's no way Chow's coming back now... Lane Kiffen is his mortal enemy. LK bounces around faster than Snooki on Jersey Shore.

CultBrennan59 · 01-12-2010, 10:08 PM

lane kiffin is USC's new head coach

01-10-2010, 06:24 PM	#76
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tryfuhl Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Waldorf, MD Age: 41 Posts: 12,514	Re: Mora out in Seattle, Pete Carroll in You figure coaches until recently were typically 20-40 years older than their players, so it makes sense that there were a lot more white head coaches. Even if you factor in a lot of black players in the 70s and on it takes awhile to come from playing to coaching... or whatever other coaching that they were doing at the time. I think that the number of black coaches we have now isn't really impacted by the rule, just the increase in available candidates. The number of black head coaches is quite higher than the actual demographics of the population, not as far as players, but not every player can be a coach, not every player wants to be a coach, not every coach was a player at a high level, etc

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SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Mora out in Seattle, Pete Carroll in I'm not positive...but I think I heard that USC is going to go after Jeff Fisher. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-11-2010, 06:30 PM	#85
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Mora out in Seattle, Pete Carroll in It's going to be amazing living in Seattle the next two years and watching Pete Carroll try to win with the Hawks. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

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SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Mora out in Seattle, Pete Carroll in Ha, Ha, Ha...... and people say our team is a joke. Yeah we conducted interviews for a new HC while the job was still filled but our HC knew he was not returning. If he didn't he was an idiot. Mora Jr. was told he would be kept the HC and 48 hrs later told he was fired after all the Carroll rumors. LOL. Talk about back stabbing.

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