I'm Not Sticking By Gibbs

VTSkins897 · 11-03-2004, 02:18 PM

tight

diehardskin2982 · 11-03-2004, 02:29 PM

maybe the one of the lineman will "accidently fall on Brunnell in a play and injure him...

Well I guy can dream right

CRT3 · 11-03-2004, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

maybe the one of the lineman will "accidently fall on Brunnell in a play and injure him...

Well I guy can dream right

Maybe a rock will fall from the sky and inable you from posting anymore. Come on wishing a injury on a player, bad redskin fan, bad.

I can dream can't I??

ChounsMan · 11-03-2004, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ZackMills

two words:

Gibbs sucks

That is a retarded statement & I'm sure you said it because your pissed the Skins lost on Sunday. Simple truth is, Gibbs is a great leader & coach. He consistent & that's why he wins. You can not just pull a guy in & out of the roster each week to win. I for one am no Brunell fan, but at this point your only option is to stick with him if you want to have any chance to finish the season on any sort of a high note.

If Ramsey starts next week your just gonna see a guy that's going to need several games to learn the system in game situations. Brunell is the only option now in week 9.

Brunell clearly can not perform like years past. Ramsey...? I'm still not sure yet.....?

I'd say the Skins are gonna need to either draft a rookie QB next season or sign/trade for a quality future pro QB.

That Guy · 11-04-2004, 05:17 AM

i think ramsey will be fine, but i'd like to see what he's got so we can be sure of where we stand... too bad we didn't get garcia though, we'd be 7-0 with him...

NY_Skinsfan · 11-04-2004, 07:52 AM

Hey JoeCrisp, haven't heard from you in a while? Can you do us a favor and set ZachMills straight. This kid doesn't understand who Joe Gibbs is and what he has done for the Washington Redskin organization. He seems to be a quick fix guy. Doesn't understand the concept of good things come to those who wait. Maybe you can help this kid see what so many of us on this board all ready sees.

That Guy · 11-04-2004, 09:24 AM

or even better, don't waste your time and hope he goes away to troll some other forum.

joecrisp · 11-04-2004, 03:14 PM

Hey guys, sorry I haven't been around much this week. I broke my right ring finger playing flag football on Monday night, so it's been kind of hard to post anything, since my typing skills are somewhat hindered for the time being.

As far as the attacks on Joe Gibbs, I obviously strongly disagree with the assertions that Gibbs is no longer a capable coach. But it's good to have a few voices in the forum that keep the perspective balanced, and provide fuel for healthy debate. There are plenty of younger guys on this board that were a little too young to fully experience the first Gibbs era. Heck, I was pretty young myself when Joe Gibbs began his Redskins coaching career, but by the last 4 or 5 years of his first tenure, I had a pretty good understanding of the qualities that made Joe Gibbs a championship coach and ultimately, a Hall of Famer.

As time wore on throughout the dismal years following Gibbs' retirement, like many mournful fans, I often revisited my fond memories of the Gibbs era, and studied the differences between Gibbs and the procession of coaches that have tried and failed to re-create the attitude, environment and culture of winning that Gibbs established over the course of his 12 seasons with the Redskins. The failures of the past 12 years have set in bold relief the prominent characteristics of perseverance, determination, dedication, strength of will, and an unwavering devotion to a winning philosophy that defined Gibbs' coaching career, as well as those of fellow Hall of Famers like Lombardi, Noll and Walsh-- alongside which Gibbs' bust resides in Canton.

It's important to note that all of those qualities are indicative of overcoming adversity, opposition, resistance, controversy, indecisiveness, weakness and failure. Thus, when these qualities are conferred upon someone, it's a reference not only to the greatness of their achievement, but also a testament to the great adversity which they conquered along the way. Joe Gibbs' enshrinement among the gods of football is a tribute to the trials and tribulations that he endured along the path to greatness. The true measure of a man is how far he ascends from where he began. Joe Gibbs began at 0-5. And thus, at 2-5, he begins again.

There will be more struggles and losses and controversies along the way. Joe Gibbs' devotion to Mark Brunell is but the first sign of his resolution to endure such suffering on the path to success, to persevere in what he believes is right, despite the shadow of doubt and controversy that looms over him. Perhaps Gibbs made the wrong decision, maybe he chose the wrong path. But it's clear that he is willing to stand by his decision and suffer the consequences, and navigate through this course of opposition and adversity. It's a journey that will test the will of those around him, but ultimately, will forge the character of this team in the likeness of its coach...

...Judging by where that likeness resides, I'd say this team is bound for good things-- no matter how bumpy the ride might be right now.

Redskins_P · 11-04-2004, 03:37 PM

Thanks Joe..

SkinsRock · 11-04-2004, 03:46 PM

Classic Joe C....awesome! :thumb:

Gmanc711 · 11-04-2004, 03:49 PM

You know, I really hate to beat a dead horse. All week I thought that the call on James Thrash was inconsistant, although correct. I dont know how many people check out extremeskins, but theres a guy that posts video clips of the weeks games. I downloaed them today and watched that Portis play. I was dead wrong, about that being a right but inconsistant call. I will gaurntee you, that you cannot find a single offical on any level that can look you in the eye and say that James Thrash was moving forward. He is so clearly set, that it makes me sick. Check it out if you have time.

PS:That smirk on Tom Whites face..

Its Thursday and I'm still not over this BS

illdefined · 11-04-2004, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmanc711

You know, I really hate to beat a dead horse. All week I thought that the call on James Thrash was inconsistant, although correct. I dont know how many people check out extremeskins, but theres a guy that posts video clips of the weeks games. I downloaed them today and watched that Portis play. I was dead wrong, about that being a right but inconsistant call. I will gaurntee you, that you cannot find a single offical on any level that can look you in the eye and say that James Thrash was moving forward. He is so clearly set, that it makes me sick. Check it out if you have time.

its not that he was moving forward. it was that he wasn't still for a full SECOND. yeah, big stretch.

RedskinRat · 11-04-2004, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecrisp

Hey guys, sorry I haven't been around much this week. I broke my right ring finger playing flag football on Monday night, so it's been kind of hard to post anything, since my typing skills are somewhat hindered for the time being..

How about Joe Crisp? The guy is typing with a friggin stick taped to his forehead and he manages another great article.

What a trooper.

Redskins_P · 11-04-2004, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RedskinRat

How about Joe Crisp? The guy is typing with a friggin stick taped to his forehead and he manages another great article.

What a trooper.

Yeah Joe Crisp is like the Brett Favre of the Warpath..

NY_Skinsfan · 11-04-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by joecrisp

It's important to note that all of those qualities are indicative of overcoming adversity, opposition, resistance, controversy, indecisiveness, weakness and failure. Thus, when these qualities are conferred upon someone, it's a reference not only to the greatness of their achievement, but also a testament to the great adversity which they conquered along the way. Joe Gibbs' enshrinement among the gods of football is a tribute to the trials and tribulations that he endured along the path to greatness. The true measure of a man is how far he ascends from where he began. Joe Gibbs began at 0-5. And thus, at 2-5, he begins again.

Thanks JoeCrips, really sorry to hear about your finger. Hey ZachMills, read what JoeCrips wrote carefully so you can understand why most of us here are not ready and/or will not jump ship as long as Gibbs is our coach. I understand that you have a right to voice your opinion, so go ahead and do so but at least now, thanks to JoeCrisp's words you can seen why we aren't giving up.

View Poll Results: Is Gibbs to Blame for the Teams Woes?
Of course not, he's not out on the field	19	22.09%
Brunell is partly to blame and Gibbs is partly to blame	41	47.67%
The buck stops at his feet	16	18.60%
Other	10	11.63%
Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

11-03-2004, 02:29 PM	#77
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	maybe the one of the lineman will "accidently fall on Brunnell in a play and injure him... Well I guy can dream right __________________ That got ugly fast

11-03-2004, 02:18 PM	#76
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 41 Posts: 890	tight

11-04-2004, 05:17 AM	#80
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	i think ramsey will be fine, but i'd like to see what he's got so we can be sure of where we stand... too bad we didn't get garcia though, we'd be 7-0 with him...

11-04-2004, 07:52 AM	#81
NY_Skinsfan Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Albany, NY Age: 51 Posts: 838	Hey JoeCrisp, haven't heard from you in a while? Can you do us a favor and set ZachMills straight. This kid doesn't understand who Joe Gibbs is and what he has done for the Washington Redskin organization. He seems to be a quick fix guy. Doesn't understand the concept of good things come to those who wait. Maybe you can help this kid see what so many of us on this board all ready sees.

11-04-2004, 09:24 AM	#82
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	or even better, don't waste your time and hope he goes away to troll some other forum.

11-04-2004, 03:14 PM	#83
joecrisp The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Charlottesville, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,501	Hey guys, sorry I haven't been around much this week. I broke my right ring finger playing flag football on Monday night, so it's been kind of hard to post anything, since my typing skills are somewhat hindered for the time being. As far as the attacks on Joe Gibbs, I obviously strongly disagree with the assertions that Gibbs is no longer a capable coach. But it's good to have a few voices in the forum that keep the perspective balanced, and provide fuel for healthy debate. There are plenty of younger guys on this board that were a little too young to fully experience the first Gibbs era. Heck, I was pretty young myself when Joe Gibbs began his Redskins coaching career, but by the last 4 or 5 years of his first tenure, I had a pretty good understanding of the qualities that made Joe Gibbs a championship coach and ultimately, a Hall of Famer. As time wore on throughout the dismal years following Gibbs' retirement, like many mournful fans, I often revisited my fond memories of the Gibbs era, and studied the differences between Gibbs and the procession of coaches that have tried and failed to re-create the attitude, environment and culture of winning that Gibbs established over the course of his 12 seasons with the Redskins. The failures of the past 12 years have set in bold relief the prominent characteristics of perseverance, determination, dedication, strength of will, and an unwavering devotion to a winning philosophy that defined Gibbs' coaching career, as well as those of fellow Hall of Famers like Lombardi, Noll and Walsh-- alongside which Gibbs' bust resides in Canton. It's important to note that all of those qualities are indicative of overcoming adversity, opposition, resistance, controversy, indecisiveness, weakness and failure. Thus, when these qualities are conferred upon someone, it's a reference not only to the greatness of their achievement, but also a testament to the great adversity which they conquered along the way. Joe Gibbs' enshrinement among the gods of football is a tribute to the trials and tribulations that he endured along the path to greatness. The true measure of a man is how far he ascends from where he began. Joe Gibbs began at 0-5. And thus, at 2-5, he begins again. There will be more struggles and losses and controversies along the way. Joe Gibbs' devotion to Mark Brunell is but the first sign of his resolution to endure such suffering on the path to success, to persevere in what he believes is right, despite the shadow of doubt and controversy that looms over him. Perhaps Gibbs made the wrong decision, maybe he chose the wrong path. But it's clear that he is willing to stand by his decision and suffer the consequences, and navigate through this course of opposition and adversity. It's a journey that will test the will of those around him, but ultimately, will forge the character of this team in the likeness of its coach... ...Judging by where that likeness resides, I'd say this team is bound for good things-- no matter how bumpy the ride might be right now.

11-04-2004, 03:37 PM	#84
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Thanks Joe..

11-04-2004, 03:46 PM	#85
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	Classic Joe C....awesome! :thumb:

11-04-2004, 03:49 PM	#86
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	You know, I really hate to beat a dead horse. All week I thought that the call on James Thrash was inconsistant, although correct. I dont know how many people check out extremeskins, but theres a guy that posts video clips of the weeks games. I downloaed them today and watched that Portis play. I was dead wrong, about that being a right but inconsistant call. I will gaurntee you, that you cannot find a single offical on any level that can look you in the eye and say that James Thrash was moving forward. He is so clearly set, that it makes me sick. Check it out if you have time. PS:That smirk on Tom Whites face.. Its Thursday and I'm still not over this BS

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