The OFFICAL 2004 Election Thread

cpayne5 · 11-03-2004, 10:41 AM

What that_guy is saying is that it makes no sense to count 75k absentee ballots when one candidate is up by 100k. Really, what's the point?

I'm all for FL, OH, & IA being the only ones that vote now anyway. Why waste your time on the other 47?

That Guy · 11-03-2004, 10:41 AM

results as of right now:

House: 228 GOP (+4), 199 DEM (-3), 1 IND... 7 undecided, 2 of which have dems currently in the lead (there's 2 in Louisiana that have Reps leading, but they do run offs, and in a run off, one of the two looks like it might turn into a dem win)...

Dems cannot take the house, and after the 7 undecideds, the final numbers will probably be 233 GOP, 201 DEM, 1 IND, though there's a potential swing of 1 or possibly 2...

Senate: 53 GOP (+3), 44 DEM (-3), 1 IND, 2 undecided... most noteable among the results races is that Daschle lost his seat, which should basically signal the end of ANY attempt for him to EVER run for president... quite a fall. Both undecideds are favoring the Rep. Candidates at this point... final overall should be 55 GOP, 44 DEM, 1 IND...

President: Looks like Bush gets 4 more years... it all depends on Ohio, but without any major controversies breaking out thus far, and by the 150,000 vote lead Bush has right now, I believe he'll win the state and the job.

Governors: 11 seats up, no changes in the overall balance has occured though (28 GOP, 21 DEM), 1 seat is still undecided (Rep. Candidate is ahead, but only by 700 votes, or 0.1%.. this one is REALLY close)...

Either way, its shaping up to be a sad day for democrats with wider margins in both the house and senate, no real change in governorship, and what's looking like 4 more years of a republican president.

That Guy · 11-03-2004, 10:45 AM

as of now, NH is the only state that's flipped parties since 2000... (NH flipped to a DEM governor too).

a new record turnout was achieved this election, and bush now has more votes than any candidate ever (previously set by ronald reagan in a 1980 landslide)... I don't think he's gotten the highest % of votes compared to total population, but still a huge feat (especially considering he lost the popular vote last time).

this is also the best voter turnout (percentage-wise) compared to total population since the 1960s.

looking like vote turnout is going to be in the 115-120million range or so, which is a pretty big increase...

MTK · 11-03-2004, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by cpayne5

What that_guy is saying is that it makes no sense to count 75k absentee ballots when one candidate is up by 100k. Really, what's the point?

I'm all for FL, OH, & IA being the only ones that vote now anyway. Why waste your time on the other 47?

I understand, but right now there's more absentee and provisional ballots out there than what Bush is leading by, correct?

MTK · 11-03-2004, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

results as of right now:

House: 228 GOP (+4), 199 DEM (-3), 1 IND... 7 undecided, 2 of which have dems currently in the lead (there's 2 in Louisiana that have Reps leading, but they do run offs, and in a run off, one of the two looks like it might turn into a dem win)...

Dems cannot take the house, and after the 7 undecideds, the final numbers will probably be 233 GOP, 201 DEM, 1 IND, though there's a potential swing of 1 or possibly 2...

Senate: 53 GOP (+3), 44 DEM (-3), 1 IND, 2 undecided... most noteable among the results races is that Daschle lost his seat, which should basically signal the end of ANY attempt for him to EVER run for president... quite a fall. Both undecideds are favoring the Rep. Candidates at this point... final overall should be 55 GOP, 44 DEM, 1 IND...

President: Looks like Bush gets 4 more years... it all depends on Ohio, but without any major controversies breaking out thus far, and by the 150,000 vote lead Bush has right now, I believe he'll win the state and the job.

Governors: 11 seats up, no changes in the overall balance has occured though (28 GOP, 21 DEM), 1 seat is still undecided (Rep. Candidate is ahead, but only by 700 votes, or 0.1%.. this one is REALLY close)...

Either way, its shaping up to be a sad day for democrats with wider margins in both the house and senate, no real change in governorship, and what's looking like 4 more years of a republican president.

It's a say day for dems, but it will be an even sadder day for the country if they try to reverse Roe v Wade.

I wish the dems would have pushed that issue more, I think alot of people don't realize that it's a very real possibility it could happen.

EEich · 11-03-2004, 10:53 AM

All votes should be counted regardless of whether they change the outcome of the election. If I vote... I want my vote counted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpayne5

What that_guy is saying is that it makes no sense to count 75k absentee ballots when one candidate is up by 100k. Really, what's the point?

I'm all for FL, OH, & IA being the only ones that vote now anyway. Why waste your time on the other 47?

redrock-skins · 11-03-2004, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I understand, but right now there's more absentee and provisional ballots out there than what Bush is leading by, correct?

They are still counting exactly how provisional ballots there are in Ohio and are about 90% through. The last count I heard was Bush up 136,000 votes in Ohio and there were around 134,000 provisional ballots with that other 10% of precincts to be counted.

The numbers just don't bode well for Kerry here.

cpayne5 · 11-03-2004, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by EEich

All votes should be counted regardless of whether they change the outcome of the election. If I vote... I want my vote counted.

I understand what you're saying from a personal viewpoint (being a voter, belieiving every vote counts, etc), but statistically, it really doesn't make a lot of sense.

cpayne5 · 11-03-2004, 11:11 AM

It's like kicking a field goal with 2 seconds remaining in a game you're losing by 14 points. Kinda makes you feel better, but doesn't really make much of a difference.

Gmanc711 · 11-03-2004, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cpayne5

It's like kicking a field goal with 2 seconds remaining in a game you're losing by 14 points. Kinda makes you feel better, but doesn't really make much of a difference.

Or kinda like trying a hail mary at the end of the half from 60 yards away when your quarterback can only throw 50...

That Guy · 11-03-2004, 11:18 AM

no, cause on the hail mary, someone may catch it and run the rest of the way...

kerry conceded, its officially over, bush has won.

That Guy · 11-03-2004, 11:21 AM

and i hope they don't bother messing with Roe v Wade, impossing beliefs onto others is a stupid stupid thing to do.

There's things I strongly disagree with for each candidate, like i said, I wasn't really thrilled with either, but its all done now.

skinsfanthru&thru · 11-03-2004, 11:43 AM

thank god this is going to be settled today and not 2-4 weeks from now. I'm still very suprised at how Bush won the popular vote nation wide by almost 4 million voters as opposed to him losing the popular vote in 2000 by about 600,000 votes I believe. because like many covering the election, the increased turn out would have led many to believe there was an influx of voters looking for change, but it doesn't seem that way now. Does anyone know when they will have a somewhat accurate detail of what demographics voted for whom? cuz I'd personally like to see how others in my age range voted.

cpayne5 · 11-03-2004, 11:48 AM

I'm suprised Kerry conceded. Classy move on his part, IMO.

Redskins_P · 11-03-2004, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

and i hope they don't bother messing with Roe v Wade, impossing beliefs onto others is a stupid stupid thing to do.

There's things I strongly disagree with for each candidate, like i said, I wasn't really thrilled with either, but its all done now.

Yeah I wasn't that thrilled with them either. I think alot of people were worried about changing Presidents in the middle of the war. Why are we at war? I have no freaking clue, but what's done is done.

11-03-2004, 10:41 AM	#76
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	What that_guy is saying is that it makes no sense to count 75k absentee ballots when one candidate is up by 100k. Really, what's the point? I'm all for FL, OH, & IA being the only ones that vote now anyway. Why waste your time on the other 47? __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

11-03-2004, 11:11 AM	#84
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	It's like kicking a field goal with 2 seconds remaining in a game you're losing by 14 points. Kinda makes you feel better, but doesn't really make much of a difference. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

11-03-2004, 11:48 AM	#89
cpayne5 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,807	I'm suprised Kerry conceded. Classy move on his part, IMO. __________________ "It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."

11-03-2004, 10:41 AM	#77
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	results as of right now: House: 228 GOP (+4), 199 DEM (-3), 1 IND... 7 undecided, 2 of which have dems currently in the lead (there's 2 in Louisiana that have Reps leading, but they do run offs, and in a run off, one of the two looks like it might turn into a dem win)... Dems cannot take the house, and after the 7 undecideds, the final numbers will probably be 233 GOP, 201 DEM, 1 IND, though there's a potential swing of 1 or possibly 2... Senate: 53 GOP (+3), 44 DEM (-3), 1 IND, 2 undecided... most noteable among the results races is that Daschle lost his seat, which should basically signal the end of ANY attempt for him to EVER run for president... quite a fall. Both undecideds are favoring the Rep. Candidates at this point... final overall should be 55 GOP, 44 DEM, 1 IND... President: Looks like Bush gets 4 more years... it all depends on Ohio, but without any major controversies breaking out thus far, and by the 150,000 vote lead Bush has right now, I believe he'll win the state and the job. Governors: 11 seats up, no changes in the overall balance has occured though (28 GOP, 21 DEM), 1 seat is still undecided (Rep. Candidate is ahead, but only by 700 votes, or 0.1%.. this one is REALLY close)... Either way, its shaping up to be a sad day for democrats with wider margins in both the house and senate, no real change in governorship, and what's looking like 4 more years of a republican president.

11-03-2004, 10:45 AM	#78
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	as of now, NH is the only state that's flipped parties since 2000... (NH flipped to a DEM governor too). a new record turnout was achieved this election, and bush now has more votes than any candidate ever (previously set by ronald reagan in a 1980 landslide)... I don't think he's gotten the highest % of votes compared to total population, but still a huge feat (especially considering he lost the popular vote last time). this is also the best voter turnout (percentage-wise) compared to total population since the 1960s. looking like vote turnout is going to be in the 115-120million range or so, which is a pretty big increase...

11-03-2004, 11:18 AM	#86
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	no, cause on the hail mary, someone may catch it and run the rest of the way... kerry conceded, its officially over, bush has won.

11-03-2004, 11:21 AM	#87
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	and i hope they don't bother messing with Roe v Wade, impossing beliefs onto others is a stupid stupid thing to do. There's things I strongly disagree with for each candidate, like i said, I wasn't really thrilled with either, but its all done now.

11-03-2004, 11:43 AM	#88
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,815	thank god this is going to be settled today and not 2-4 weeks from now. I'm still very suprised at how Bush won the popular vote nation wide by almost 4 million voters as opposed to him losing the popular vote in 2000 by about 600,000 votes I believe. because like many covering the election, the increased turn out would have led many to believe there was an influx of voters looking for change, but it doesn't seem that way now. Does anyone know when they will have a somewhat accurate detail of what demographics voted for whom? cuz I'd personally like to see how others in my age range voted.

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