Official The Killing Thread (Warning: Potential Spoilers)

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Mr. Simmons and I aren't exactly best of friends

Is he friends with anyone at ESPN? Seems he only works there because the website needs him for traffic. I love his stuff generally.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Ah, I stand alone on this one. Loved the ending. Despite the network's promises, I didn't put my eggs in the reveal basket. I had no expectations regarding a final answer.

People are pissed and everyone's talking about it. Holder's ambivalent ending, Rosie's mystery ongoing, Season 2 picked up. I'm lovin' it.

Geez, they didn't answer "Who Killed Rosie Larsen?" after 13 eps. I think viewers forget that each ep. represented a day in the investigation. Some think the Ahmed arc took too long (and maybe it did represent 1/4 of the season). But it was a solid lead they followed for only two or three "TV" days. I see SS's criticism of wanting to know more about Rosie, but I think part of the show's mystery is finding out who she was. At the beginning of the investigation, the viewers only know that she was a bit contentious with her mother and she kept some suspect company. Towards the end, we learn she was experimenting with professional escorting. I'd say that's quite a bit of dead girl development within two "TV" weeks.

Although the billboards emphasize "Who Killed Rosie Larsen?", that's not how I watched this show. The mystery is a basis for the fallout on three levels- the Larsen family, the detective investigation and Richmond's campaign. Anyone remember Twin Peaks? ABC marketed the show as a murder mystery, but fans will tell you that finding out Laura Palmer's killer wasn't what kept them watching.

JJ Abrams had apologists galore after refusing to answer six seasons' worth of island mysteries (insert "Answers brought on more questions" and "It was always about the characters anyway" screams here).

They answered the central mysteries on Lost. Whether people liked how they did so is another matter.

And JJ Abrams had nothing to do with Lost after creating it. He moved on to directing MI:III and never came back.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Is he friends with anyone at ESPN? Seems he only works there because the website needs him for traffic. I love his stuff generally.

Friends with the right people, I suppose.

Candidly speaking, the website wouldn't hurt significantly without him.

I have mixed feelings on him

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Friends with the right people, I suppose.

Candidly speaking, the website wouldn't hurt significantly without him.

I have mixed feelings on him

ESPN use to be my go to site for Sports but I find SI.com way better IMO. They generally have better coverage and better writers, like Peter King. I also love Extra Mustard. ESPN.com is just so "meh", of late. Bill S. to me is really the only thing that draws me to ESPN.com anymore.

I don't mean to dig at you SS just my opinion.

Also I bumped this thread for Breaking Bad and everyone ignored me, fawk this place! =)

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mredskins

ESPN use to be my go to site for Sports but I find SI.com way better IMO. They generally have better coverage and better writers, like Peter King. I also love Extra Mustard. ESPN.com is just so "meh", of late. Bill S. to me is really the only thing that draws me to ESPN.com anymore.

I don't mean to dig at you SS just my opinion.

Also I bumped this thread for Breaking Bad and everyone ignored me, fawk this place! =)

I think SI is great. And while SI.com doesn't have a large audience, it seems to have a very dedicated, passionate audience. I used to love watching their weeknight sports show with Fred Hickman and Nick Charles (RIP)

That said, people mainly just go to Extra Mustard to see the pictures of the girls not for sports info. And I think ESPN has some outstanding writers. Our problem is information overload, a lot of the good material is buried. It's a constant struggle to find the right way to present our best info.

I tend to go to places like CSNWashington and SB Nation DC for my sports because I want to read about my local teams and ESPN can't provide analysis and info at the level of detail those sites can.

Anyhow, as for Breaking Bad. I keep wanting to watch that show. I saw the first episode a couple of years ago and liked it but never stayed with the show.

As for The Killing, is season 2 next summer?

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by mredskins

ESPN use to be my go to site for Sports but I find SI.com way better IMO. They generally have better coverage and better writers, like Peter King. I also love Extra Mustard. ESPN.com is just so "meh", of late. Bill S. to me is really the only thing that draws me to ESPN.com anymore.

I don't mean to dig at you SS just my opinion.

Also I bumped this thread for Breaking Bad and everyone ignored me, fawk this place! =)

Breaking Bad is probably my favorite show on TV right now. I just rewatched season 3 in a week because it's so damn good. I always tell people that haven't watched it to stick with it after the first season because I found it to be a little slow, ironically, but that I'd put season 3 up there with the first season of Lost or the 4th season of The Wire in terms of great TV.
Obviously, I can't wait for season 4 next month!

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think SI is great. And while SI.com doesn't have a large audience, it seems to have a very dedicated, passionate audience. I used to love watching their weeknight sports show with Fred Hickman and Nick Charles (RIP)

That said, people mainly just go to Extra Mustard to see the pictures of the girls not for sports info. And I think ESPN has some outstanding writers. Our problem is information overload, a lot of the good material is buried. It's a constant struggle to find the right way to present our best info.

I tend to go to places like CSNWashington and SB Nation DC for my sports because I want to read about my local teams and ESPN can't provide analysis and info at the level of detail those sites can.

Anyhow, as for Breaking Bad. I keep wanting to watch that show. I saw the first episode a couple of years ago and liked it but never stayed with the show.

As for The Killing, is season 2 next summer?

That is it in a nutshell! Exactly why I have trouble with that site. you must work there or something. =)

Honestly do yourself a favor and watch Breaking Bad you will love it. The 1st season is really short. 2 and 3 are only like 13 episodes. IT is fun to watch on DVD becasue you can marathon them and a lot of the plot will pull from way back, that way it is fresh in your memory.

As far as the Killing I am unsure of it's return.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Breaking Bad is probably my favorite show on TV right now. I just rewatched season 3 in a week because it's so damn good. I always tell people that haven't watched it to stick with it after the first season because I found it to be a little slow, ironically, but that I'd put season 3 up there with the first season of Lost or the 4th season of The Wire in terms of great TV.
Obviously, I can't wait for season 4 next month!

I have never watched the Wire, I need too.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by ArtMonkDrillz

Breaking Bad is probably my favorite show on TV right now. I just rewatched season 3 in a week because it's so damn good. I always tell people that haven't watched it to stick with it after the first season because I found it to be a little slow, ironically, but that I'd put season 3 up there with the first season of Lost or the 4th season of The Wire in terms of great TV.
Obviously, I can't wait for season 4 next month!

In season three (no spoiler really) I thought they did a great job at the beginning of one episode when they showed Walt and Sky buying their house. Walt was just such a dreamer then and full of hope(like many young family men). It also showed how you may think your life is going to be A but it really never pans out that way and you end with your life being like Y by the time it is all figured out. Like Walt saying the house was to small and they were going to have 5 children and all this other stuff. When in reality his son has MS, his 2 children are 16 years apart, he is fighting cancer, and is just a high school teacher. That is not even throwing in his drug career.

[ArtMonkDrillz]

Originally Posted by mredskins

That is it in a nutshell! Exactly why I have trouble with that site. you must work there or something. =)

Honestly do yourself a favor and watch Breaking Bad you will love it. The 1st season is really short. 2 and 3 are only like 13 episodes. IT is fun to watch on DVD becasue you can marathon them and a lot of the plot will pull from way back, that way it is fresh in your memory.

As far as the Killing I am unsure of it's return.

Completely agree. The writers really reward viewers who pay close attention. For instance a very minor character in one episode of season 2 may end up playing a big role in a story arc in season 3.
Also, the character evolution is really well thought out and organic, There have only been about 30 episodes but the characters are really different now from how they started, but in a totally believable way.

Seriously SS, catch up on Netflix or whatever in time for the new season!

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

They answered the central mysteries on Lost. Whether people liked how they did so is another matter.

And JJ Abrams had nothing to do with Lost after creating it. He moved on to directing MI:III and never came back.

Uhhh... if you say so. And it still took them 6 seasons to kind of get around to some of it.

And I'm not really a JJ Abrams hater- in fact, I love all his movies and Fringe is ridiculously cool. Lost was a huge letdown the last few seasons. And cliffhangers are what defined the show, so I'm not sure why people are mad at Killing- viewers should have expected it after the first few eps ended similarly.

Be mad at AMC, not the writers. (Lost Spoiler)

I specifically remember the Lost writers denying fan theories that the passengers had all died with the crash after the first episode. Now that's a straight up mislead!

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

I specifically remember the Lost writers denying fan theories that the passengers had all died with the crash after the first episode. Now that's a straight up mislead!

Not to extend the debate about Lost in this thread but NONE of the characters died in the crash.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Not to extend the debate about Lost in this thread but NONE of the characters died in the crash.

Geez, I think my memory is reinventing itself... you're right- I had to think back to the finale and remembered Jack's convo w/ his dad at the end.

I still ain't down with all the major questions left in the air, however. Sorry for extending the Lost blather... time to / it.

SS, please start Breaking Bad when you get the chance... I think this board needs its own BB thread and it won't be the same without you!

[SmootSmack]

If I start with Season 3 would I be totally lost. And if I just watch Season 3 and have y'all catch me up on Seasons 1 and 2 would that work?

Either way, go ahead and start a Breaking Bad thread if you wish.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

If I start with Season 3 would I be totally lost. And if I just watch Season 3 and have y'all catch me up on Seasons 1 and 2 would that work?

Either way, go ahead and start a Breaking Bad thread if you wish.

Yeah, it's best to start from the beginning on this one... maybe you can catch up before Season 5.