Would you be ok with...

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I agree with you but I also wonder how much of the OL problems were from the players learning the zone blocking scheme and trying to utilize it for the first time. Plus the fact the team only had a couple of zone blocking style OL.

In any event the team needs more zone blocking style OL and having been in the scheme for a second year I'm hoping the OL plays better.

Seems like they were able to keep the best front 4 at bay on this play

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

I believe research would also show any QB with a horrible O-line is at a nearly insurmountable disadvantage.

Use that 1st-round pick on another O-lineman and a 2nd-round QB will have a better chance at success than a 1st-round QB without the line upgrade.

It depends on how you define horrible O-line. You could make the argument that the Colts and Chargers have awful lines, but those teams succeed because they don't exactly torpedo their offenses by sucking. Some would argue that, because they don't limit their offenses and can be schemed around, they can't be a horrible o-line, they are merely unremarkable.

But I'll also say that Peyton Manning and Philip Rivers didn't develop behind bad OLs. They benefitted from good line play in their developmental years. And the tried and true way to develop a QB is go allow him good line play in his developmental years.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It depends on how you define horrible O-line. You could make the argument that the Colts and Chargers have awful lines, but those teams succeed because they don't exactly torpedo their offenses by sucking. Some would argue that, because they don't limit their offenses and can be schemed around, they can't be a horrible o-line, they are merely unremarkable.

But I'll also say that Peyton Manning and Philip Rivers didn't develop behind bad OLs. They benefitted from good line play in their developmental years. And the tried and true way to develop a QB is go allow him good line play in his developmental years.

One sous think people would have learned from the Patrick Ramsey experiment.

[MTK]

There's always free agency to plug holes on the OL too.

[Monkeydad]

True, but I'd prefer a young player. We should follow the Jets model and use our first-round pick on a lineman until our whole line is 1st-round studs. Then, even with a horrible QB like Sanchez, we could contend for a decade.

[GTripp0012]

We also threw more times, I believe, than any other team in football.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We also threw more times, I believe, than any other team in football.

No, but we were fourth with 605 pass attempts compared to the #1 team the Colts with 679 pass attempts.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

No, but we were fourth with 605 pass attempts compared to the #1 team the Colts with 679 pass attempts.

I stand corrected on this.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We also threw more times, I believe, than any other team in football.

You maybe pointing it out but the reason is because the OL was not able to create holes for the RB's possibly due to using the zone blocking for the 1st time..... ever. Although I'll say I think it's KS's scheme also... Houston threw a lot also while he was there.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Not taking a QB at all in this draft?

Research shows that 2nd round QBs have been mostly disappointments, so unless you get a top flight guy in the 1st round it's basically a waste to take a QB in later rounds.

Do you trust the likes of Grossman or Beck? Or picking up a stop gap veteran such as Hasselbeck?

Personally I'd be ok with it because "if" a QB is taken it will take time for him to get learn the speed, terminology, and build a connection with Receivers. Grossman already has that for part of last season. I'd almost rather they took OL, DL, LB, and WR... not all in that order. Work on getting the OL better aquanted with the zone blocking scheme and better protection for the QB and a bonified #1 WR, build up the defense with NT and a rushing LB and in next yrs draft pick up a QB or try to jump up and take a QB when we have more picks to and can afford to trade up and offer a 2nd rounder also.

[Swarley]

GTripp is right, at that point Green Bay was on the decline

[MTK]

Go deep Rexy!

[Swarley]

the fact that the OL was able to put together a few good games gives me hope that they'll be better next year. I don't think we're as doomed as some think (with some additions of course).