Who Can Lead This Team?

[dgack]

Originally Posted by fanarchist

And my point was that there are clear incongruities in how individuals define what actually constitutes a "gunslinger". I don't care if you labeled him, or if it's the most searched topic on the web. In my definition,(you can reference previous posts if you care to refresh your memory)Rex Grossman is not a "gunslinger", plain and simple. He's simply a pathetic decision maker that suffers from tremorous bouts where he lacks any impulse control whatsoever.

And to everything else you wrote. It's like I'm always battling with an incarnation of the same person, spewing the same rhetoric, from the same sources, where virtually no independant thought is required. Everything is a reference from someone else, and it fast becomes boring and myopic. I could glean your perspective on these issues by funneling the mass consensus through the same narrow vortex. Your last post was a huge waist of time. If you want to know how I would respond to all the same points go to my post history. I'm done playing the redundancy game.

Or perhaps you just don't like rational debate with someone who doesn't always agree with you. I'm sorry to disappoint you.

[fanarchist]

Originally Posted by dgack

Or perhaps you just don't like rational debate with someone who doesn't always agree with you. I'm sorry to disappoint you.

No I don't like it when people take what I say out of context, fragment, and skew it on a tilt so that it leans in a direction of their choosing. I enjoy rational debate, just not generic debate. But my posts are there. I've covered most of these topics.

And when we're running single wing offset I with Logan Paulson playing the wing, Cooley as the FB, and Fred Davis no where in sight on consecutive drives. There's a problem. Perhaps you should pay more attention to the game, and think less about how you're going to impress the pod people on the warpath.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by fanarchist

And my point was that there are clear incongruities in how individuals define what actually constitutes a "gunslinger". I don't care if you labeled him, or if it's the most searched topic on the web. In my definition,(you can reference previous posts if you care to refresh your memory)Rex Grossman is not a "gunslinger", plain and simple. He's simply a pathetic decision maker that suffers from tremorous bouts where he lacks any impulse control whatsoever.

And to everything else you wrote. It's like I'm always battling with an incarnation of the same person, spewing the same rhetoric, from the same sources, where virtually no independant thought is required. Everything is a reference from someone else, and it fast becomes boring and myopic. I could glean your perspective on these issues by funneling the mass consensus through the same narrow vortex. Your last post was a huge waist of time. If you want to know how I would respond to all the same points go to my post history. I'm done playing the redundancy game.

anyone ever wonder why the smilie of the guy in "shit hitting the fan" has his tongue out after the shit is all over his face?????That s fvckin sick!!!!!


Oh yeah, you should change the hater smilie to hatter. that is all.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by fanarchist

Wikipedia is really not most reliable source for information. I saw an excerpt from Wikipedia that claimed Dan Snyder was gay for dinosaurs. It's funny, but highly doubtful in the fact catagory.

For the most part, I think a number of decisions this coaching staff has made, personnel wise, this season have been great. Helu, Josh Wilson, Kerrigan, Bowens, Hank, OJ etc. all, in my opinion very good acquistions. But Fred Davis being virtually non-existent in the game last night, and essentially replacing his touches with what seems to be a smaller, slower, less menasing version of the Captain Chaos we are accustom to seeing, seems, atleast to me, like a very poor game planning decision. Especially when Fred Davis had been a dominant safety blanket in the first 2 games. Running stretch plays on most early 1st down scenarios. Redzone playcalling that discourages us from capitalizing on scoring opportunities, and turnovers. I realize that they're in the past, but the McNabb and Haynesworth debacles didn't really instill a solid foundation for trust. Larry Johnson, Joey Galloway. I'm not going to just accept these shaky decisions based on a lulling adherence to the Shanahan's past achievements. I will question.

Sorry if my initial statement was percieved as contentious, it wasn't my intent. I was looking for elaboration.

That's all.

Crazier things have happened.

[CapitalDefense]

With Rex as our QB, I can guarantee 2 wins, 4 others are toss ups and 7 are sure losses.

Rex played well against the Giants and terrible to next two games.

We could end up 4-12 with Rex as our QB, nobody wants that. BECK

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CapitalDefense

With Rex as our QB, I can guarantee 2 wins, 4 others are toss ups and 7 are sure losses.

Rex played well against the Giants and terrible to next two games.

We could end up 4-12 with Rex as our QB, nobody wants that. BECK

Rex did not play "terrible" against either the Cards or the Boys. He did make some bad plays, for sure, but he also made some positive plays as well.

[SirClintonPortis]

Please, do tell me, any of you. Has any of our WRs or center done anything as ****ing stupid as Costa and the Dallas WRs did last night? Well, that's a damn good reason why Rex Grossman isn't screaming like a madman.

#2. I am ****ING sick and tired of "colloquial psychological theory" in which "leadership" is equivalent to just having more body language and screaming your ass off. When "leading" someone, you are trying to INFLUENCE their goddamn behavior. Going rah-rah-rah will not necessarily change anyone's behavior. There are a bunch of theories into leadership, but simply having more demonstrative body language and "screaming" ain't one of them.

And Beck can't lead? Who the **** was organizing those player workouts in the offseason. Yeah, Beck.

I might not care about religion, but all the forgiveness talk is bound to make non-members think sissyness is principle number 1.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Please, do tell me, any of you. Has any of our WRs or center done anything as ****ing stupid as Costa and the Dallas WRs did last night? Well, that's a damn good reason why Rex Grossman isn't screaming like a madman.

#2. I am ****ING sick and tired of "colloquial psychological theory" in which "leadership" is equivalent to just having more body language and screaming your ass off. When "leading" someone, you are trying to INFLUENCE their goddamn behavior. Going rah-rah-rah will not necessarily change anyone's behavior. There are a bunch of theories into leadership, but simply having more demonstrative body language and "screaming" ain't one of them.

And Beck can't lead? Who the **** was organizing those player workouts in the offseason. Yeah, Beck.

I might not care about religion, but all the forgiveness talk is bound to make non-members think sissyness is principle number 1.

After you're done with your rant, maybe you can tell us how you took DynamiteRave's statement that she doesn't think Beck has the leadership qualities to succeed under pressure to mean she was making some statement about "sissy white Mormon boys"

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Please, do tell me, any of you. Has any of our WRs or center done anything as ****ing stupid as Costa and the Dallas WRs did last night? Well, that's a damn good reason why Rex Grossman isn't screaming like a madman.

#2. I am ****ING sick and tired of "colloquial psychological theory" in which "leadership" is equivalent to just having more body language and screaming your ass off. When "leading" someone, you are trying to INFLUENCE their goddamn behavior. Going rah-rah-rah will not necessarily change anyone's behavior. There are a bunch of theories into leadership, but simply having more demonstrative body language and "screaming" ain't one of them.

And Beck can't lead? Who the **** was organizing those player workouts in the offseason. Yeah, Beck.

I might not care about religion, but all the forgiveness talk is bound to make non-members think sissyness is principle number 1.

Beck was not even the named starter so why would he be organizing the team workouts? The correct person took the lead and got the players together.

[Bucket]

Worse thread of the year

[dgack]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Worse thread of the year

Oh ye of little faith!

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Worse thread of the year

Isn't it a little too early for that in the year?

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Worse thread of the year

Oh there will be worse.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Oh there will be worse.

There has been worse.

[JoeRedskin]

Perhaps, just perhaps, the coaches are not yet comfortable with Davis as a "reliable" weapon. We've heard how much he has grown and he has certainly made big plays. BUT, it may simply be a situation where the Shanny's want to make sure he doesn't backslide. I think it is clear with this coaching staff is that trust has to be earned. So perhaps as the season progresses, we see more and more of Davis as the coaches become convincced he can be relied upon through good and bad.