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Old 04-22-2012, 01:11 PM   #1
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same as it would have been, haynesworth for kolb straight up. fantasy world
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Old 04-22-2012, 02:08 PM   #2
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i really don't see a trade with gaffney unless it's a conditional late round pick for next year, or a 7th for this year. he is a middle of the pack wr in the nfl, my guess is he will get cut, get picked up and have a decent season but nothing to write home about.

i honestly dont think his tweets have much to do with his situation with the skins. i think shanny knew he was going to cut him, but i think shanny actually likes gaffney to an extent and wanted him to have a head start finding a new team. gaffney has done what the coaches have asked of him, and seems to understand the nfl. gaffeny was raised on the nfl and i think he has a true understanding of the bussiness mentality of the leauge.
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Old 04-22-2012, 02:58 PM   #3
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Well, I still don't get how Mike Shanahan wants to get Gaffney out of Washington. The guy is a veteran wide receiver who happened to be the most productive wide receiver on the roster last season. Jabar Gaffney showed up for every game. With the additions of Garcon and Morgan, and with Hankerson coming back I still see plenty of room for Gaffney as a member of the Redskins receiving corps. The problem in my estimation is Shanahan. He micro manages too damn much.
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Well, I still don't get how Mike Shanahan wants to get Gaffney out of Washington. The guy is a veteran wide receiver who happened to be the most productive wide receiver on the roster last season. Jabar Gaffney showed up for every game. With the additions of Garcon and Morgan, and with Hankerson coming back I still see plenty of room for Gaffney as a member of the Redskins receiving corps. The problem in my estimation is Shanahan. He micro manages too damn much.
Gaffney is the definition of just-a-guy. The fact that he put up the numbers that he did last year was a testament to how pathetic our offense was, not Gaffney's prowess.

We need playmakers at WR and Gaffney is not a playmaker.
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Gaffney is the definition of just-a-guy. The fact that he put up the numbers that he did last year was a testament to how pathetic our offense was, not Gaffney's prowess.

We need playmakers at WR and Gaffney is not a playmaker.
Problem is Garcon fits the same description...almost exactly. He's had some solid seasons working w/ arguably the best QB in the history of football and then last season because he was the primary target. But through it all Garcon has been inconsistent, which is the consensus on him as best I can tell.

...so Garcon is younger than Gaffney but doesn't know the system. Maybe it's a wash, but then you have to take the cap implications into account.
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I don't recall when the skins got the better end of a trade deal involving picks. Last season I thought Hightower was a steal but he was on IR after 5 games and to resign him is questionable with his health. J.Campbell-we got shafted of his value.
This team always buys high and sells low.
Gaffney would be a welcomed addition to a team lacking depth like The Jags, even the Ravens need help. Skins gave a 3rd to get Gaff and talks for a 6th or 7th rounder is just
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skins wasted a 3rd on jarmon and did a good job making up for it by trading him for gaffney. anything for gaffney is a win
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Well, I still don't get how Mike Shanahan wants to get Gaffney out of Washington. The guy is a veteran wide receiver who happened to be the most productive wide receiver on the roster last season. Jabar Gaffney showed up for every game. With the additions of Garcon and Morgan, and with Hankerson coming back I still see plenty of room for Gaffney as a member of the Redskins receiving corps. The problem in my estimation is Shanahan. He micro manages too damn much.


Again the injuries to Moss and Cooley forced Gaffney to be outr top WR not to mention we had no one else. Garcon, Morgan, Moss, Hankerson, Davis, Cooley. Where is the "plenty of room" for a below average WR who doesn't have separation speed?
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Again the injuries to Moss and Cooley forced Gaffney to be outr top WR not to mention we had no one else. Garcon, Morgan, Moss, Hankerson, Davis, Cooley. Where is the "plenty of room" for a below average WR who doesn't have separation speed?
It doesn't matter how bad the offense was or how pathetic Grossman and Beck played last year. It doesn't matter why Gaffney produced. The fact of the matter is that he produced. He was a 16 game starter and the Redskins leading receiver. Sure, he's not as fast as most wide receivers around the league, and he doesn't have great hands like Leonard Hankerson or Marcus Colston, but Gaffney still stepped up last year. He should be credited for doing that. But he's being treated like an outcast now. That's wrong.
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It doesn't matter how bad the offense was or how pathetic Grossman and Beck played last year. It doesn't matter why Gaffney produced. The fact of the matter is that he produced. He was a 16 game starter and the Redskins leading receiver. Sure, he's not as fast as most wide receivers around the league, and he doesn't have great hands like Leonard Hankerson or Marcus Colston, but Gaffney still stepped up last year. He should be credited for doing that. But he's being treated like an outcast now. That's wrong.
How is he being treated like an outcast? If he was told to seek a trade, then that gives him the chance to go to another team of his choosing with the same contract he has right now. If he gets cut, then his production last year should allow him to find another home (such as New England). The worst thing for Gaffney would be to keep him here buried in the depth chart.
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Old 04-23-2012, 05:12 PM   #12
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How is he being treated like an outcast? If he was told to seek a trade, then that gives him the chance to go to another team of his choosing with the same contract he has right now. If he gets cut, then his production last year should allow him to find another home (such as New England). The worst thing for Gaffney would be to keep him here buried in the depth chart.

@ Ruhskins- You don't think Gaffney can contribute to the offense? With Garcon, Hankerson, Moss, and Morgan pass receiving, Gaffney wouldn't be an option in certain situations? The only thing Anthony Armstrong has is speed, but as we've seen, he drops passes when he's hit too hard because he's soft. Gaffney is a much better WR than Armstrong. But if Mike Shanahan feels that trading Gaffney plays in the Redskins favor, then so be it.
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@ Ruhskins- You don't think Gaffney can contribute to the offense? With Garcon, Hankerson, Moss, and Morgan pass receiving, Gaffney wouldn't be an option in certain situations? The only thing Anthony Armstrong has is speed, but as we've seen, he drops passes when he's hit too hard because he's soft. Gaffney is a much better WR than Armstrong. But if Mike Shanahan feels that trading Gaffney plays in the Redskins favor, then so be it.
I think he could contribute, but the problem is that team has invested money and picks in the likes of Garcon (money), Hankerson (pick), and Morgan (money). If you have made those investment, a player like Gaffney becomes a possible trade asset, without having to open up a hole in your roster. Also, a guy like Armstrong (who is not a lock to stay with the team) will most likely be asked to play special teams...something that I doubt Gaffney would do.

I just don't see how trading Gaffney or curtting him is the end of the world. Personally, I think it is better for Gaffney if he can go to a place like New England, where he can be a starter almost right away, instead of being in a WR competition here in DC.
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Garcon has two key factors on his side over Gaffney. Speed and youth.
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Old 04-23-2012, 01:18 PM   #15
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Pierre Garcon, WR for the Washington Redskins at NFL.com

Jabar Gaffney, WR for the Washington Redskins at NFL.com

Links to career stats. Garcon is about as pedestrian as they come, and his fumbles are a red flag. In short, it's almost impossible to rationally justify blowing a huge portion of cap space on this "profile" of a player. I think the FO has (needlessly) backed itself into a corner here, putting all it's proverbial eggs into the Garcon basket.

I hope he is that guy for us...1000+ yards and at least 8 TDs. He needs to be that guy because the opportunity cost of his contract is significant. If he's not we need to start asking some hard questions about this FO's legitimacy.
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