Did Shanny Strip Haslett of Play Calling vs Rams?

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Well if you blame Haslett (even partly) than what could he have done because according to your stance on things he simply had no options?
I do not think that we are the least talented or leAst deep secondary in the league and i do not think you will see danny amendola have a game like that ever again so i am going to say again that the scheme was piss poor.

Contradiction...

We are one of the least "deep" and talented in the league, and you may not see Amendola have a better game then this because there are better secondary's that'll be able to man up and jam him off the line.

Haslett didn't have many options.. I don't know what he could of done besides play man across the board, and hope for the best. Even then, I don't see Riley being able to man up on the slot all game.

If it was ME. I would of brought in Crawford to man up Amendola in rotation w/ Hall and run a Over Man at the top. Still wouldn't of stopped the quick throws, but at least we could made Bradford think about it.

[The Goat]

[QUOTE=Bucket;942621]Contradiction...

We are one of the least "deep" and talented in the league, and you may not see Amendola have a better game then this because there are better secondary's that'll be able to man up and jam him off the line.

Haslett didn't have many options.. I don't know what he could of done besides play man across the board, and hope for the best. Even then, I don't see Riley being able to man up on the slot all game.

If it was ME. I would of brought in Crawford to man up Amendola in rotation w/ Hall and run a Over Man at the top. Still wouldn't of stopped the quick throws, but at least we could made Bradford think about it.[/QUOTE]

This is what I'd have done also. Haslett didn't adjust and he should have mid-way through the 1st qtr at the latest...it's pretty obvious. The Rams were moving up and down the field with ease, gotta change things up.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Bucket

No it's not. It's a realistic fan. I'm not defending Jim Has. I'm simply stating what happen against the Rams.

You want to rush your best Pass Rush... IE - Rak and Kerrigan, now put together all of our active secondary, and remember that they are human beings, and not robots so they need breathers etc. Now put together a scheme that involves having your best Pass rushers on the field, and a solid secondary...

When they come out in 4 WR's which they did almost 70% of the game. You cant throw all 4-5 DB's in Man coverage. You need a zone over top.. So who do you put man on in the secondary w/o pulling Rak or Kerrigan to do so? Would lay on Riley, and Fletcher to cover slot's, and TE's.

Now, would I of started putting Hall on there biggest threat in the slot in man, and work coverages around? Sure, it sounds simply but most defenses are run around scheme's and coverages.. If you are running a Cover 2 Tampa, then you can just say.. Hey, let's man up on the slot, and leave a hole in the zone.

Redskins were caught off gaurd from the sleeper slot WR this game, and never recovered because we didn't have the man power to adapt without crippling our pass rush even more.. We switched to our deepest DB set when Rak got a hurt a few times, and pulled Jackson which resulted in Bradford changing the play at the line and the RB running through holes as big as a truck.

One of our biggest issues against the Rams was Gholston getting abused, and the lack of pass rush because of Bradfords quick releases.

All the blame doesn't go on our DC. It can be evenly distributed to our secondary talent, depth, injuries, Haslett, and other factors..

Bottom line is we can't stop many people atm with our defense the way it is, and won't be able to stop many teams that have speedie slot WR's.

I wouldn't be surprised if AJ Green had 200 yards receiving this week.

And also its not like bradford is a threat to run so make him beat you by making throws into tite coverage atleast and forget about pressure pressure pressure. I mean it took all of 3 seconds to see the zone was not working. Was a game of can rak get to sam before sam throws to danny. Any other dc would have laid off and said ok were going to make you earn those yards by throwing into coverage atleast. Even if you give him time to do so by rushing three it is better than what haslett did. We kept giving them ten or twelve yard passes to a wide open guy and they kept taking it. Haslett was being so damn stubborn. The rams must have been laughing to themselves.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Contradiction...

We are one of the least "deep" and talented in the league, and you may not see Amendola have a better game then this because there are better secondary's that'll be able to man up and jam him off the line.

Haslett didn't have many options.. I don't know what he could of done besides play man across the board, and hope for the best. Even then, I don't see Riley being able to man up on the slot all game.

If it was ME. I would of brought in Crawford to man up Amendola in rotation w/ Hall and run a Over Man at the top. Still wouldn't of stopped the quick throws, but at least we could made Bradford think about it.

My point was that we arent the worst secondary in football and amedola wont have a game like that against lesser ones. Therefore it is hasletts fault and i agree with having hall / crawford rotate in slot and playing man across board. Haslett though stuck to his guns for far too long.

[WaldSkins]

Redskins gave Jim Haslett a contract extension | ProFootballTalk
Apparently Haslett and Danny Smith were recently signed to extensions

[SmootSmack]

I' m still vacationing and still don't have reason to believe this story is true

[punch it in]

Im Not nearly in the know as smootsmack and if they were recently signed to contract extensions than i can only assume snyder has bought vinny back into the fold.

[SFREDSKIN]

The contract extension was also reported by the Wapo, maybe they got the story from profootballtalk?

Redskins give contract extensions to coaches Jim Haslett, Danny Smith

[Monkeydad]

Another source.

https://twitter.com/Russellmania980/...63303348060160

So crazy day - Haslett & Danny get extended (confirmed Haz to 2013/+ hefty raise), stupid death threats & Haz DID NOT get PC duties yanked

[skinsguy]

Didn't Danny Smith and Jim Haslett receive contract extensions like a year ago? Because, I don't see the logic in giving those coaches, yet, another contract extension after two blocked punts, no decent kick-off returns, and two games in which the defense gave up 30+ points. That just does not compute, so I'm calling BS on that part of the story.

I can, however, believe that Raheem Morris was brought in to replace Haslett by next year. And, it just might happen sooner than that if the 'skins defense is starting to take sides (Haslett VS Morris.) My personal opinion, I've never been very high on Haslett to begin with, but I do give him credit with improving the defense from his first year. Unfortunately, with the injuries starting to pile up, I don't see a continuation of improvement on the defensive side of the ball. However, it's just two games, so things may drastically change between now and by mid-season.

[Chico23231]

whether they get extentions or not, they still could be fired at a drop of a hat if their performance lags...non-story imo

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

whether they get extentions or not, they still could be fired at a drop of a hat if their performance lags...non-story imo

Agreed! I don't see it being much of a factor regardless. If it is true, it was probably just something that was agreed upon several months ago.

[Monkeydad]

I don't see the defense taking sides. Morris was brought in to help the weakest part of our team. The secondary. He's great at motivating his guys and they'll be loyal to him but they'll still understand that Haslett is the DC. I see Morris cheering on the offense and keeping his guys motivated while they're getting burnt...but he's also helping them play better than they really are, especially in Week 1.

We're in the 3rd year of the 3-4 and should see some strides this year barring any more devastating injuries like Kerrigan, Bowen, Cofield, Wilson, Hall or God forbid Fletcher.

I don't know why we're struggling so much other than our secondary is being exploited, but I don't see a mutiny happening.

[CRedskinsRule]

No one, at least it seems to me, is pointing out that the Defense is directly responsible for 1 redskins touchdown in each game. I think that is worth some discussion as well

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

No one, at least it seems to me, is pointing out that the Defense is directly responsible for 1 redskins touchdown in each game. I think that is worth some discussion as well

That, I give the players all the credit for making the big plays. It's not the players I'm concerned about.