Skins/Giants post game thread

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Bucket

How's that bad coaching? He called a over man double team. Do you want Haslett to step on to the field and hold Williams hips and show him where to line up pre-snap too?

The play call was one of the problems.
Because we were up by 3 and there was what (?) less than 2 minutes left in the game AND it was 3rd and 10. We decide to play tight play man with our safety's playing shallow and moving forward? That goes against everything taught in Defense 101 in that situation.
In that situation the coaches should have told their safety's 'your first steps after the snap is backwards (towards your endzone) then react. Williams fist steps after the snap were forward and to the left. (I sound like Kramer on the spitter episode of Seinfeld.) When your safety's first steps on an obvious pass play are backwards you are less likely to get beat deep. Obviously we would have rather given up a short completion underneath then an easy TD. Our safety's were (1) out of position and (2) running the wrong way.

[imaskin4life]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

No, the safety's were not playing 2 deep. They were up just five to seven yards behind the cb's. Williams gambled early and shaded over the help the cb on the outside. The slot receiver easily got past Wilson and Williams was too far outside to make up the ground to go back to the inside receiver.

The safety's in that situation should have never been that close to the line of scrimmage. They should have been at least another 5 to 10 yards further back and they should not have committed that early in the play. Williams from the snap decided he was going to help the outside CB. Bad coaching. Bad play calling. Bad job by the players involved.

ok. im not sure why the safety is concerned about ANYTHING other than getting beat deep there - he sucks

[Chico23231]

Cant believe how good RG3 is. wow

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Cant believe how good RG3 is. wow

he's elite status already imo

right now after 7 weeks name me 10 QBs better than RG3

[mooby]

They had Victor Cruz double covered on his touchdown pass, Williams just got blown out of the water and Eli put up a great throw. Can't blame Haslett on that one.

Turnovers is the main reason we lost today. When you turn the ball over 4 times in one half, most of the time you are going to lose. I'm not going to panic though because this is the only game this year where that has happened. Learn from it and move on.

And also give kudos to Blackburn or whomever it was that ripped the ball out from Moss on that last drive. He covered it up with both arms and their guy just had his arm in the right place at the right time. Moss has never been known for his ball security but it wasn't like he was being careless there.

[Gtothearry]

Are we going to be in the playoffs? Probably not but I think we are definitely good enough to be in the playoffs.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Gtothearry

Are we going to be in the playoffs? Probably not but I think we are definitely good enough to be in the playoffs.

we need to get on a 3 - 4 game roll now and i just dont see us doing it with our horrible d.. Next week is a win imo because Pitt isn't really scary on O

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Gtothearry

Are we going to be in the playoffs? Probably not but I think we are definitely good enough to be in the playoffs.

We have no shot as a wildcard because two teams probably arent coming out of the NFC east. I do believe we are better than Dallas, and Philly. I believe that we are better than the Giants if we dont shoot ourselves in the foot. I think we win the division and than anything can happen. Plus - RG-3 (even though the turnovers - hey its the Giants d in their house) - continues to grow up on a weekly basis. I think it is scary how good he is going to be as the season progresses. Plus maybe Garcon and BW come back. Skins will win the division - im thinking 4-2 in the division.

[Chico23231]

Raheem Morris been a difference in our secondary? Big NOPE

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Raheem Morris been a difference in our secondary? Big NOPE

D. Hall is decent. Pretty good in my mind for the most part. Meriweather hasn't played at all. Doughty is supposed to be a backup. M. Williams has shown he's not dependable at all. C. Griff seems pretty solid, but Wilson I think is kookoo for cocoa puffs.

I just don't think Morris is working with exactly a great crew of guys back there. Can't turn a rock into a diamond.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

D. Hall is decent. Pretty good in my mind for the most part. Meriweather hasn't played at all. Doughty is supposed to be a backup. M. Williams has shown he's not dependable at all. C. Griff seems pretty solid, but Wilson I think is kookoo for cocoa puffs.

I just don't think Morris is working with exactly a great crew of guys back there. Can't turn a rock into a diamond.

true. We need to add a new talent at Free Safety and replace D Hall with better talent. keep Wilson. draft another CB and keep Crawford.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

true. We need to add a new talent at Free Safety and replace D Hall with better talent. keep Wilson. draft another CB and keep Crawford.

Speaking of Crawford, he didn't play today, did he?

[redskins5044]

Fire all the coordinators, they all suck. We have all pro players all over the field, has to be the coaches. JK.
This loss in on both the offense and defense, we turned the ball over too much.

[JWsleep]

We know that with RGIII, we are NEVER out of a game. That 4th down play followed by the Moss TD was just amazing.

We also know that with this D, no lead is safe.

We nearly overcame a six TO game. Learn and move on.

Very sucky about the injury bug. (Will Freddy spark it up now? Better watch his back.)

Amazingly weak calls against us--that motion penalty was absurd. And we lost by four...

[sdskinsfan2001]

The fact of the matter is our secondary is just not good enough for us to win close games consistantly. Wilson is the only player of any quality in our secondary and he is at best a # 2 CB. Hall literally plays 10 yards off of every receiver and gets beat, and Williams is the worst starting free safety in the NFL. He just watched Cruz run right by him. He wasn't covering anyone he was just standing there. I knew we scored too fast, I thought Giants would drive down for a tying field goal, but against our secondary you can just throw a 77 yard TD pass and skip the rest. I'm not even mad about the loss. More like disappointed, but also a realist. This is a year to make improvements and next year I think Skins will be in the playoffs. Got the Panthers hoping to town, really hoping to get to 4-4. *Edit - jumped the gun a little bit here, my bad, at Steelers next, always a fun place to play, still really hoping to get to 4-4. Also hoping its on National TV again here in SD so I can watch at home and save $.