Lost Some Faith In Shanahan

[BaltimoreSkins]

Twice (that I saw) during playing time Griffin left the side lines to go into the stadium for evaluation and came back out. I would assume he under went another evaluation during half time. He came back onto the field of play. In my mind he was either cleared to play, which could mean a number of things, or he was not cleared and he or Shanny or both took the initiative to continue playing. Unfortunately we don't have and may not have for a while all of the information.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

You're combining two arguments that, in my mind, are competely seperate.

From a health perspective, I dont think RGIII should have played to begin with. He should have been inactive. However, since Shanahan decided to start him, at that point, you stick with him just like you would if he were 100% healthy. You only remove him if an injury that prevents him from playing.

Well, essentially the injury was preventing him from playing. It wasn't preventing him from taking the field, but after the 1st quarter it was preventing him from doing anything close to resembling effective QB play. At that point he should have been yanked.

[firstdown]

I'm not upset he stayed in the game while injured I'm upset he left him in the game based off his performance after twisting his knee.

[CultBrennan59]

Look, we're all upset with the whole Griffin-Shanahan kneegate fiasco.

But MS is a proven coach. MS has won super bowls and knows what it takes. MS whether he meant to do it or not, got this team from being a joke to being a playoff team. Yes, he is arrogant, yes 1 out of every 4 of his decisions will backfire on him, but he is getting us on the right track.

It sucks we have to learn this the hard way with knee injuries and who should be told what to and not to do, but now we know for the future.

[ashvirtually]

How do you add people to your ignore list? Can someone tell me, please?

[Meks]

Most shocking to me was that they continued to call running plays or even giving him tge option to run it himself

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Been meaning to ask what you've heard out of Denver since Shanahan's departure? Somewhere you said people think Mike's the nicest guy in football, and though I didn't want to get in a pissing match in the midst of our winning streak it's been on my mind ever since. One of my relatives in Denver who spends time with folks from the Broncos FO has told me Elway privately speaks about his dislike of Shanahan as a person, leader etc. Going along those lines it certainly seems like Mike has left a whole string of burnt bridges in his career.

Your thoughts?

Clearly Elway hated the man:

Question: You got the two Super Bowls, but did your relationship with Mike ever get contentious? Did you ever have moments where you guys butted heads?

Elway: I think that's always the case with quarterbacks and coaches. I butted heads with Dan Reeves. Mike and I butted heads every once in a while, but we were always able to solve it. I think that's part of the deal, especially with quarterbacks, especially with veteran quarterbacks. They feel like they know the right way sometimes, and they're gonna butt heads. But we were always able to get through it. I knew Mike for so long and had such great respect for him that we always figured it out. He was good on both sides. He was give and take, also. But he's a tough guy and that's what makes him a good coach. I was lucky to have him in Denver and be able to play the four years I got to play with him as the head coach.

Redskins Insider - John Elway: Mike Shanahan will turn it around in DC

And just as clearly, Shanahan returned the hate tenfold:

Shanahan said he was confident Elway -- the Hall of Fame QB who won two Super Bowls with Shanahan in Denver -- would find success in the job.

"John is a very bright guy, real smart. I think just having John in the building will help tremendously because of his knowledge of players, just being around the game as long as he has," Shanahan said, via the Washington Post.

Mike Shanahan: John Elway will do well as Broncos' boss

Show me someone, anyone, anywhere ... any link, any quote, that backs up what you say your friends are saying that Elway is saying "privately".

I expect to hear the sound of crickets chirping from The Butt Head. (Not a personal attack, just an synonymous pseudonym for the quoted poster).

[CRedskinsRule]

I like Schlereth, he was a great part of the America's Game show that featured the Broncos superbowl win.

[sdskinsfan2001]

How do you get your age to pop up on your page on the left hand side when you post? Some people have it, some don't, its not even an option in my About Me section? Always curious to get a feeling for who I'm reading/talking with.

Sorry to get off topic here!

[los panda]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

How do you get your age to pop up on your page on the left hand side when you post? Some people have it, some don't, its not even an option in my About Me section? Always curious to get a feeling for who I'm reading/talking with.

Sorry to get off topic here!

user cp > edit your details > privacy (should be set on "hide age and date of birth") > change that setting to "display only age"

[MTK]

Everyone sure is coming out of the woodwork lately eh

[VTSkins1961]

To me the bottom line is this MS is the coach. He should have pulled RG3 after the 2'nd TD. And as far as that goes, he should not not have played him in the final regualr season games. I am not placing blame on MS but think about this. It would've been better for us to miss the playoff's and not risk a serious injury to RG3 so he can have a longer career... Now all is up in the air because of this injury. I don't think it is career threatening at this point but I DO BELIEVE he has shortened RG3's career at this point.

[Hog1]

I have heard and read a few "Football" people weigh in on this issue...like Jaws, Trent Dilfer, Herm Edwards, Mike Golic, Doc Walker and several others who either played the game or coached it.
ALL....universally...support Mike and his decision to play Robert under the circumstances.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I have heard and read a few "Football" people weigh in on this issue...like Jaws, Trent Dilfer, Herm Edwards, Mike Golic, Doc Walker and several others who either played the game or coached it.
ALL....universally...support Mike and his decision to play Robert under the circumstances.

Can you remember the last time a mainstream sports-media personality, especially from ESPN, openly criticized a current HC in a circumstance of this magnitude? Who? When?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by milellie111

Yeah, lets blame Robert, the 22 year old kid with less than a year of experience playing in the NFL as opposed to blaming the coach who has over 30 years of coaching experiencing in the NFL and should know that when your QB can't run or complete a pass and is limping on one leg, maybe you should pull him out instead of sacrificing him to one of the dirtiest top defense in the league.

What did the seattle defense have to do with the injuries. It wasn't a smashmouth or dirty hit, it wasn't a zone read option run, it wasn't some evil man pushing buttons at Buffalo Wild Wings(although I want to make sure a sprinkler head didn't pop up). ALOT of people are making their pet peeves into a part of the reason why RG3's knee gave out.

How many injuries were there this year? yeah I am pretty sure it wasn't just one.