Tell 'Em to Pack or Bring 'Em Back

[T.O.Killa]

It looks like they want to get rid of Will Montgomery. They have now signed to centers.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by delusional optimist

OK.I think you misunderstand what im saying.You bring guys like Rambo to camp but unless he makes a quantum leap as a player you are looking for a better option to make the final roster.I said we should bring back Thomas.There is no way Doughty or Merriweather should be back.Doughty is a 31 yr old FA who is a fringe backup player.Why resign him? Merriweather will be 30 in a few days and is a penalty waiting to happen and a FA. Why would you resign him. If your going to sign someone why would you bring back guys that have proven they can't get it done?

At CB Minniefield and Gumbs are welcome to camp as are all young players that are not guaranteed any money but to count on either would be foolish. Hall is a 30 yr old FA who has underachieved for the most part. Why resign him? You act like guys we had under contract last year are somehow still under contract when they are not.

At TE Fred Davis is a soon to be 28yr old FA who has shown no commitment and has never learned to block. Reed out played him and will start. Why bring back Davis? I was under the impression that Paulsen was a FA. I now see that he is under contract in which case i actually would bring him back.

You seem to be under the impression that all these FAs will return for free. They won't. You will have to sign them to a contract just the same as you would a potential upgrade. Why not seek the upgrade. Seems silly not to.

I'm new here but i will assume the Cerrato reference is kinda a through away term used but if you actually think about it it does not apply. Cerrato kept a lot of the same middle of the road talent year after year and pretended that if we could just add this or that superstar it would raise them to playoff level. All the while trading away draft picks and sticking with old past there prime guys. I have suggested nothing of the sort. Im suggesting we trim some fat from the roster to make room for some more young energy.


The problem we have had time after time is one coach trying to build his castle on the last guys foundation. It hasn't work. Time to take a new approach

Shanallen turned over this roster very effectively. The problem wasn't trying to build on top of the old it just wasn't well built in certain areas.

You also don't throw out draft picks just because someone else drafted them, and you don't get rid of solid players like Doughty until someone proves better in camp at both special teams and run stopping.

Finally, you keep your free agents (the "good" ones) to build home grown teams.


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[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Shanallen turned over this roster very effectively. The problem wasn't trying to build on top of the old it just wasn't well built in certain areas.

You also don't throw out draft picks just because someone else drafted them, and you don't get rid of solid players like Doughty until someone proves better in camp at both special teams and run stopping.

Remember the time when Shanahan got rid of draft picks just because somebody else drafted them?

[diehardskin2982]

Now that we know who our coach is I can put this list together.

2014 Free Agents (21 total FAs - Starters are in red):

Defense (15 FA/5 starters):

London Fletcher, ILB - 38 years old- Retired
Brian Orakpo, OLB - 27 years old- Bring back DE in 4-3
Chris Baker, NT/DE - 26 years old-Bring back
Nick Barnett, ILB - 32 years old- Send packing
EJ Biggers, CB/S - 26 years old- Bring back camp competition
Reed Doughty, S - 31 years old-Bring back camp competition
Jose Gumbs, S - 25 years old- Bring back camp competition
DeAngelo Hall, CB - 29 years old- Bring back
Rob Jackson, OLB/Playmaker - 28 years old- Bring back OLB in 4-3
Bryan Kehl, ILB - 29 years old- Send packing
Jerome Murphy, CB - 26 years old- Bring back camp competition
Perry Riley, ILB - 25 years old- Bring back MLB in 4-3
Darryl Tapp, OLB - 29 years old- Bring back camp competition
Josh Wilson, CB - 28 years old- Send packing
Doug Worthington, DE - 26 years old- Bring back camp competition

Offense (6 FA):
Dezmon Briscoe, WR - 24 years old- Bring back
Fred Davis, TE - 27 years old- Bring back
Rex Grossman, QB - 33 years old- Send packing
Josh Morgan, WR - 28 years old- Bring back
Santana Moss, WR - 34 years old-Bring Back Camp comp
Aldrick Robinson, WR - 25 years old- Bring back

[CRedskinsRule]

Yahoo weighs in
Y! SPORTS

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Yahoo weighs in
Y! SPORTS

I've heard a lot of people saying we should hold onto Dez Briscoe. I think I agree. Give him one more year, I read that had he not gotten injured, he would have made the 53 man roster.

[GTripp0012]

Will Montgomery isn't going to start next season and probably makes too much to be a backup (then again, if you value line depth above all, he's reasonably priced). I imagine Lichtenstiger will be the center, the right guard isn't currently in the organization, and the left guard will be one of Gettis, LeRibeus, or Hurt (can't see the other two making the roster).

I don't think the team is really badly off at tackle right now, though it may be wise to turn the right side over to Compton sooner rather than later.

[skinsfan69]

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;1055897]Will Montgomery isn't going to start next season and probably makes too much to be a backup (then again, if you value line depth above all, he's reasonably priced). I imagine Lichtenstiger will be the center, the right guard isn't currently in the organization, and the left guard will be one of Gettis, LeRibeus, or Hurt (can't see the other two making the roster).

I don't think the team is really badly off at tackle right now, though it may be wise to turn the right side over to Compton sooner rather than later.[/QUOTE]

You want to go another year with Polumbus in pass protection? We can upgrade there. He just doesn't seem to be strong enough to hold up against a bull rush. I see too many times where he's on roller skates.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Now that we know who our coach is I can put this list together.

2014 Free Agents (21 total FAs - Starters are in red):

Defense (15 FA/5 starters):

London Fletcher, ILB - 38 years old- Retired
Brian Orakpo, OLB - 27 years old- Bring back DE in 4-3
Chris Baker, NT/DE - 26 years old-Bring back
Nick Barnett, ILB - 32 years old- Send packing
EJ Biggers, CB/S - 26 years old- Bring back camp competition
Reed Doughty, S - 31 years old-Bring back camp competition
Jose Gumbs, S - 25 years old- Bring back camp competition
DeAngelo Hall, CB - 29 years old- Bring back
Rob Jackson, OLB/Playmaker - 28 years old- Bring back OLB in 4-3
Bryan Kehl, ILB - 29 years old- Send packing
Jerome Murphy, CB - 26 years old- Bring back camp competition
Perry Riley, ILB - 25 years old- Bring back MLB in 4-3
Darryl Tapp, OLB - 29 years old- Bring back camp competition
Josh Wilson, CB - 28 years old- Send packing
Doug Worthington, DE - 26 years old- Bring back camp competition

Offense (6 FA):
Dezmon Briscoe, WR - 24 years old- Bring back
Fred Davis, TE - 27 years old- Bring back
Rex Grossman, QB - 33 years old- Send packing
Josh Morgan, WR - 28 years old- Bring back
Santana Moss, WR - 34 years old-Bring Back Camp comp
Aldrick Robinson, WR - 25 years old- Bring back

I let moss, Davis and Morgan go

[skinsfan69]

I know people are down on Davis. I'd like to see what some of the new coaches can do with him. Reed has shown no ability to stay on the field and Paulsen looks like Don Warren, just a blocker. I see a guy like Davis leaving here, going to a team like New England and taking off. I say we keep him. When motivated he's still a pretty good football player.

[MTK]

If we can keep Davis on another 1 year deal I'm all for it.

[That Guy]

davis only got a little attention from buffalo last offseason, and since then, his value has been tanked, so it's not like there's a crazy cost to retain him, and i'd bet he's still a pretty good player to team with JR or sub when he gets hurt again.

[Alvin Walton]

Dump Davis, sign Pitta.