NFL divisional round thread.

[HailGreen28]

Originally Posted by 30gut

The hoodie strikes again...making the defense cover ineligible receivers lol.
The refs dropped the ball on that one.

Wilson keeps proving to be one of, if not thee best playmaking QB in the league.

Curious. How did the refs drop the ball on that one?

Wilson looked good yesterday. Running Qb just doing what is asked of him, not having to win the game on his own. Like 2012 here.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

Curious. How did the refs drop the ball on that one?

The refs should have announced which receiver was ineligible and give the defense the chance to identify the ineligible receiver prior to the snap.

In the same sense that the refs announce eligible receivers when they are wearing numbers considered 'ineligible' e.g. tackle eligible.
The refs announce player #72 is reporting as eligible.

The refs should have announced player #34 is reporting as ineligible.

But I don't fault the refs for not picking up what the Pats were doing because it was happening fast. I knew something was up but couldn't pin point it myself in realtime either, i was drinking too.

The Pats gained an advantage snapping the ball before the Ravens had a chance to identify the ineligible receiver thus forcing them to waste a defender covering an ineligible receiver. They had no way to know which receiver wasn't eligible and moreover the Pats made an effort for the ineligible receiver to look like he was eligible.

Like I said, tip of the hat to the hoodie.

Wilson looked good yesterday. Running Qb just doing what is asked of him, not having to win the game on his own. Like 2012 here.

Sure. Running QB or whatever label you want to call him. Russ made plays runs and throws that helped win the game.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by 30gut

The refs should have announced which receiver was ineligible and give the defense the chance to identify the ineligible receiver prior to the snap.

In the same sense that the refs announce eligible receivers when they are wearing numbers considered 'ineligible' e.g. tackle eligible.
The refs announce player #72 is reporting as eligible.

The refs should have announced player #34 is reporting as ineligible.

But I don't fault the refs for not picking up what the Pats were doing because it was happening fast. I knew something was up but couldn't pin point it myself in realtime either, i was drinking too.

The Pats gained an advantage snapping the ball before the Ravens had a chance to identify the ineligible receiver thus forcing them to waste a defender covering an ineligible receiver. They had no way to know which receiver wasn't eligible and moreover the Pats made an effort for the ineligible receiver to look like he was eligible.

Like I said, tip of the hat to the hoodie.

Sure. Running QB or whatever label you want to call him. Russ made plays runs and throws that helped win the game.

They did.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Lotus

They did.

When did the refs announce over the mic: player X is not eligible? Maybe I missed it. But I sure don't recalling hearing the refs announce it.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by 30gut

The hoodie strikes again...making the defense cover ineligible receivers lol.
The refs dropped the ball on that one.

Wilson keeps proving to be one of, if not thee best playmaking QB in the league.

No they didn't, it wasn't illegal what NE was doing so they didnt drop anything.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 30gut

The hoodie strikes again...making the defense cover ineligible receivers lol.
The refs dropped the ball on that one.

Wilson keeps proving to be one of, if not thee best playmaking QB in the league.

From what I understand, the player reported to the ref that he was ineligible. The Ravens can complain but the Pats followed the rules this time.

[Hijinx]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

From what I understand, the player reported to the ref that he was ineligible. The Ravens can complain but the Pats followed the rules this time.

Where the Pats "gamed the system" was that, they did not give the refs any time to get that info to the Ravens coaches/players.

I am 100% sure there will be a rule change come next year. It is typical of Belicheat to do shit like this.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Hijinx

Where the Pats "gamed the system" was that, they did not give the refs any time to get that info to the Ravens coaches/players.

I am 100% sure there will be a rule change come next year. It is typical of Belicheat to do shit like this.

Well, that's on the Refs.

If a player changes his eligibility, the Referee must alert the defensive captain after player has reported to him.

NFL Rules Digest: Position of Players at Snap

If the Refs told the D captain, then tough sh** that you were unprepared for the change-up. Call a time out and adjust.

On the other hand, if the Ref did not tell the D captain, well ... that's just more of the inconsistent reffing that happened throughout the game.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Hijinx

Where the Pats "gamed the system" was that, they did not give the refs any time to get that info to the Ravens coaches/players.

I am 100% sure there will be a rule change come next year. It is typical of Belicheat to do shit like this.

That's not on New England. The refs and Baltimore should know that they're going to push the rules. Harbaugh got a 15 yarder cause he couldn't control himself. In a win or go home situation, everyone, coaches included, need to check their emotions.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

From what I understand, the player reported to the ref that he was ineligible. The Ravens can complain but the Pats followed the rules this time.

Yup, they even showed the ref informing the defense on replay. Belicheat may have gamed the system again but this time it was legal.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Yup, they even showed the ref informing the defense on replay. Belicheat may have gamed the system again but this time it was legal.

Belichick didn't "game the system," he simply used some players in an unconventional fashion.

Hey, Harbaugh "gamed the system" by preserving his timeouts and taking a penalty rather than calling a timeout, adjusting his defense and bringing the issue to the Refs attention.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

From what I understand, the player reported to the ref that he was ineligible. The Ravens can complain but the Pats followed the rules this time.

Never said it was illegal or the Pats didn't follow the rules. *shrugs*

[skinsfaninok]

That play was legal

[Hijinx]

You know damn well that the rules committee will address this in the off season. Leave it to Belicheat to bend the rules as far as he can.

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by Hijinx

You know damn well that the rules committee will address this in the off season. Leave it to Belicheat to bend the rules as far as he can.

I'm sure he is the only coach using the rules to his advantage.

The NFL said it's legal. Don't see the problem.