Cards vs Skins Postgame Freakout

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

maybe he should start to contribute first

Read the article?

[Bucket]

Originally Posted by calia

No excuses. As much as it pains me to say so, Dak Prescott hasn't thrown a pick like that this year, and Kirk has a lot more experience than he does. I don't know if it was on Kirk or Crowder (or both) -- clearly they weren't on the same page, which is a shame as Crowder was open (as was the deeper route).

So frustrating that they lost. But one game at a time -- beat the snot out of the reeling Eagles, and focus on nothing else. I think they can win out -- they've already beaten two of the teams they're playing, and Chicago is no good. The Panthers strike me as the East coast version of the Cardinals, although after last night, it looks like they're mailing it in (let's hope).

Let's see what fight these guys have in December. I hope it's a lot.

OK since you went there.

Dak has 120 less pass attemptso compared to Kirk. Let's compare what each QB is asked to do before the snap.

Dak Prescott
Calls play in huddle
Has option to check to run or switch direction of run
Has option to check hot

Kirk Cousins
Calls play in huddle
Has option to check run, pass, and direction.
Has option to change position of players on the field
Has option to check protection and calls protection
Has option to check hot
Has option to run turbo or no huddle

These are two different QB right now. Kirk is asked to do alot more because he's trusted by the coaches. Dak isn't even allowed to call protection. They give that option to the Center Frederick.

Dallas also has a basic scheme, Dak is required to see one side of the field with combo routes. Two reeds maximum and then checks his hot. Kirk has ability to scan whole field, adjust the play and routes and cording of the defense, has multiple reads which sometimes goes to 5 reads.

This doesn't even include that we run choice routes like a mad man. The communication between Kirk and his WR is light years beyond what Dak is required to do.

You know why Dallas is more successful? They have the very best offensive line in the NFL. It's not even close. They have one of the best young versatile RB in the NFL that runs behind it.

So let's not compare 2 different QB in two totally different situations. Dallas is a better team then us....period. It fucking blows to say that and admit that, but it's true.

The choice route was a miscommunication and it happens. You are also going to throw more interceptions when you are asked to do more. Simple...

Zona is a more complete team then us, and beat us up. Our defense is terrible, and we need to address it in the offseason.

[Irrefutable]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Read the article?

yes, the guy might be good in the future... the notion he is going to be dominate soon is far fetched

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Bucket

OK since you went there.

Dak has 120 less pass attemptso compared to Kirk. Let's compare what each QB is asked to do before the snap.

Dak Prescott
Calls play in huddle
Has option to check to run or switch direction of run
Has option to check hot

Kirk Cousins
Calls play in huddle
Has option to check run, pass, and direction.
Has option to change position of players on the field
Has option to check protection and calls protection
Has option to check hot
Has option to run turbo or no huddle

These are two different QB right now. Kirk is asked to do alot more because he's trusted by the coaches. Dak isn't even allowed to call protection. They give that option to the Center Frederick.

Dallas also has a basic scheme, Dak is required to see one side of the field with combo routes. Two reeds maximum and then checks his hot. Kirk has ability to scan whole field, adjust the play and routes and cording of the defense, has multiple reads which sometimes goes to 5 reads.

This doesn't even include that we run choice routes like a mad man. The communication between Kirk and his WR is light years beyond what Dak is required to do.

You know why Dallas is more successful? They have the very best offensive line in the NFL. It's not even close. They have one of the best young versatile RB in the NFL that runs behind it.

So let's not compare 2 different QB in two totally different situations. Dallas is a better team then us....period. It fucking blows to say that and admit that, but it's true.

The choice route was a miscommunication and it happens. You are also going to throw more interceptions when you are asked to do more. Simple...

Zona is a more complete team then us, and beat us up. Our defense is terrible, and we need to address it in the offseason.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

[Chico23231]

Washington Redskins want RB Rob Kelley more involved in offense - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

Kelley is coming off a 14-carry, 63-yard game in Sunday’s loss to Arizona. That’s not the ideal number of carries for coach Jay Gruden’s liking. It didn’t stem from needing to throw to catch up; rather, the Redskins attempted passes on nine of their first 10 plays in the 31-23 loss.

In Kelley’s first three starts, he rushed for 87, 97 and 137 yards. In his last two, it’s been 37 and 63 yards.

hello, run the ball.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Irrefutable

yes, the guy might be good in the future... the notion he is going to be dominate soon is far fetched

You never know, he's starting to make plays, has good size (built like Michael Bennett and is also an undrafted FA like Bennett) has the physical abilities and is athletic. Anything is possible is what I meant.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by calia

No excuses. As much as it pains me to say so, Dak Prescott hasn't thrown a pick like that this year, and Kirk has a lot more experience than he does. I don't know if it was on Kirk or Crowder (or both) -- clearly they weren't on the same page, which is a shame as Crowder was open (as was the deeper route).



So frustrating that they lost. But one game at a time -- beat the snot out of the reeling Eagles, and focus on nothing else. I think they can win out -- they've already beaten two of the teams they're playing, and Chicago is no good. The Panthers strike me as the East coast version of the Cardinals, although after last night, it looks like they're mailing it in (let's hope).



Let's see what fight these guys have in December. I hope it's a lot.

All qb's make mistakes their entire career from time to time. It is certainly not a habit with KC. Dak is a game manager. He has neither the touch nor the accuracy of KC. He is not half as lethal as KC. It is not even an argument.

[rocnrik]

Dallas is on a roll and good for them..they have sucked for a long time ! I hate Philly and the Giants but you know what Dallas is good for the Redskins ..that rivalry brings a lot to this team.. they got good really quick but they had a plan..i can see the Skins are doing the same..you have to have a very good Oline..we are getting there! they have a great RB, we May have one if we give him the ball..they got extremely lucky that Dak is this good and kirk is a lot like Dak ..mid round pick more for insurance than quick fix and It has worked out for Us. so in the end IF Dallas can be the best team in the NFC that should be encouraging for the Skins ..we need to be very smart from here on out.every draft pick every FA move will be huge because we are very close ..how close well Look at dallas IF ROMO had not got hurt does anybody think they would be this good? so they were 1-2 players close. and they got lucky but luck has a lot to do with it. I believe we have better coaches ..both owners are quirky but at least Snyder does not call plays anymore. If we don't make playoffs so be it..we are close to being a dominate force in this league. We need To go all in On the Defense..We need serious upgrades! we need a C/G another TE and for Doctson to play..So there is no freak out here..we are close ..closer than some of you think. A couple right moves and we win 11 plus games easy . lets stay positive!!

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Bucket

OK since you went there.

Dak has 120 less pass attemptso compared to Kirk. Let's compare what each QB is asked to do before the snap.

Dak Prescott
Calls play in huddle
Has option to check to run or switch direction of run
Has option to check hot

Kirk Cousins
Calls play in huddle
Has option to check run, pass, and direction.
Has option to change position of players on the field
Has option to check protection and calls protection
Has option to check hot
Has option to run turbo or no huddle

These are two different QB right now. Kirk is asked to do alot more because he's trusted by the coaches. Dak isn't even allowed to call protection. They give that option to the Center Frederick.

Dallas also has a basic scheme, Dak is required to see one side of the field with combo routes. Two reeds maximum and then checks his hot. Kirk has ability to scan whole field, adjust the play and routes and cording of the defense, has multiple reads which sometimes goes to 5 reads.

This doesn't even include that we run choice routes like a mad man. The communication between Kirk and his WR is light years beyond what Dak is required to do.

You know why Dallas is more successful? They have the very best offensive line in the NFL. It's not even close. They have one of the best young versatile RB in the NFL that runs behind it.

So let's not compare 2 different QB in two totally different situations. Dallas is a better team then us....period. It fucking blows to say that and admit that, but it's true.

The choice route was a miscommunication and it happens. You are also going to throw more interceptions when you are asked to do more. Simple...

Zona is a more complete team then us, and beat us up. Our defense is terrible, and we need to address it in the offseason.

Winner winner chicken dinner. Well said.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I honestly think we're good at Center. We need ILB, Safety, DTs, lots of work on defense, but if we need anything on offense, it's an upgrade at LG.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I honestly think we're good at Center. We need ILB, Safety, DTs, lots of work on defense, but if we need anything on offense, it's an upgrade at LG.

Agree with this...think Spencer Long has been good at Center. And actually Sullivan stepped in well the other night...maybe that's the back up depth we've needed at that spot opposed to Leribeus.

At LG...we need more options. Id consider the Nsekhe-Williams-Long line up. Luavao strength is run blocking and well, we don't run the ball enough.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by punch it in

All qb's make mistakes their entire career from time to time. It is certainly not a habit with KC. Dak is a game manager. He has neither the touch nor the accuracy of KC. He is not half as lethal as KC. It is not even an argument.

He's also a rookie who didn't play in a pro style offense at Miss State. You have to give that kid an awful lot of credit. He's been very impressive. It would be stupid for the Cowboys to run the offense that they'd run with Romo in there. Time will tell if he can grow into a complete NFL passer.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Agree with this...think Spencer Long has been good at Center. And actually Sullivan stepped in well the other night...maybe that's the back up depth we've needed at that spot opposed to Leribeus.

At LG...we need more options. Id consider the Nsekhe-Williams-Long line up. Luavao strength is run blocking and well, we don't run the ball enough.

It may be NFL football heresy to move TW to LG, but Nsekhe-Williams-Long-Scherff-Moses would be very strong, wouldn't it?

I read somewhere that TW doesn't like the idea. Well, I don't like him getting himself suspended in mid-season, so he can just deal with it. You know, team first and all that, Mr. Team Captain Williams.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I hate to say it, but that play was fuckin awesome. I want McC to draft a strong dline man and sign one..Or mayb grab one of those jets interior dlinemen. Both on the block after the season.

And to add insult to injury, after Lauvao got abused he didn't even stay on his feet. He ended up falling over backwards like a 1 year old baby learning how to walk. The Cards must be LOLing in their film session.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

He's also a rookie who didn't play in a pro style offense at Miss State. You have to give that kid an awful lot of credit. He's been very impressive. It would be stupid for the Cowboys to run the offense that they'd run with Romo in there. Time will tell if he can grow into a complete NFL passer.

Dak is doing a great job.