Redskins Signing Adrian Peterson

[Bishop Hammer]

Originally Posted by MTK

He’s wearing #26 in case anyone was worried about that

I was hoping he wouldn't wear that number. I have a Clinton Portis jersey I still wear and I don't won't people to think I'm showing support to AD.

Keeping the focus strictly on football and what he may or may not be able to do, Adrian Peterson avg 3.1 yds behind the worst O-line, in Ari. The Redskins had the 12th best line last year. *Already he's in a better place to excel.

Not to mention The Cardinals and The Saints employ ZBS and AP works better in PRS, which Jay likes to run. *Couple that with basically having a year off, due to his neck injury giving his legs a chance to rest he has a 50 50 chance off working out here. *We'll have to wait and see?

[sdskinsfan2001]

I was already looking forward to game 3, as that's typically the best one to watch. Just got a bit more interesting.

[skinsfan69]

I couldn't even finish readying that bullshit article. AP hit a 4 year old in the fucking nuts with a tree limb. Just stop and think about that.

I realize that a lot of NFL players are not going to be Kirk Cousins or Darrell Green types. And I can tolerate a lot of shit, drinking, drugs, gambling and so on. It's all part of life and growing up. Young guys w/ money are going to screw up all the time. But when you do what he did, or what Ray Rice did, that's where you have to draw the line and say.. " this guy just can't play here."

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I couldn't even finish readying that bullshit article. AP hit a 4 year old in the fucking nuts with a tree limb. Just stop and think about that.

I realize that a lot of NFL players are not going to be Kirk Cousins or Darrell Green types. And I can tolerate a lot of shit, drinking, drugs, gambling and so on. It's all part of life and growing up. Young guys w/ money are going to screw up all the time. But when you do what he did, or what Ray Rice did, that's where you have to draw the line and say.. " this guy just can't play here."

couldn't agree more!!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I couldn't even finish readying that bullshit article. AP hit a 4 year old in the fucking nuts with a tree limb. Just stop and think about that.

I realize that a lot of NFL players are not going to be Kirk Cousins or Darrell Green types. And I can tolerate a lot of shit, drinking, drugs, gambling and so on. It's all part of life and growing up. Young guys w/ money are going to screw up all the time. But when you do what he did, or what Ray Rice did, that's where you have to draw the line and say.. " this guy just can't play here."

And that's your opinion, which you are entitled to.

My issue with your comments is that you make it sound like we gave up a first rounder for AP and/or gave him a ton of guaranteed money; and that this was such a TERRIBLE football move. It is not a terrible football move, nor it is the best football move, it is JUST a football move. That's it.

From my personal experience, growing up in a culture where child punishment was similar or worst to APs situation (and experiencing it myself), I feel that what he did was terrible and inexcusable. Yet, I also realize that it somewhat undid his career and his status of an elite player to just a guy off the street type of player.

But like I said, you are entitled to your personal opinion to what he did and how you feel about him playing in the team given that.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I couldn't even finish readying that bullshit article. AP hit a 4 year old in the fucking nuts with a tree limb. Just stop and think about that.

I realize that a lot of NFL players are not going to be Kirk Cousins or Darrell Green types. And I can tolerate a lot of shit, drinking, drugs, gambling and so on. It's all part of life and growing up. Young guys w/ money are going to screw up all the time. But when you do what he did, or what Ray Rice did, that's where you have to draw the line and say.. " this guy just can't play here."

Agreed, physically abusing a women or child are two things that are unforgivable as far as I am concerned.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I couldn't even finish readying that bullshit article. AP hit a 4 year old in the fucking nuts with a tree limb. Just stop and think about that.



I realize that a lot of NFL players are not going to be Kirk Cousins or Darrell Green types. And I can tolerate a lot of shit, drinking, drugs, gambling and so on. It's all part of life and growing up. Young guys w/ money are going to screw up all the time. But when you do what he did, or what Ray Rice did, that's where you have to draw the line and say.. " this guy just can't play here."

Im leaning more and more towards your train of thought man. I personally did not want him signed because he is either a piece of shit or a dumbass for thinking it was ok. I mean did he live under a rock? As far as a football move i say again it makes perfect sense though, but yeah it is going to be really hard to root for him. I give second chances or third chances to most anyone except you have to draw a line somewhere. Beating a four year old child with a stick crosses it by a country mile. And the more i think about his excuse of not knowing it was wrong the more it irks me.

[MTK]

Hitting a child is definitely disgusting and beyond comprehension to me.

But it also makes me think about what fucked up situation AP must have gone in his life to become the type of person that could hurt his own child. Abuse is a pretty fucked up circle of violence and unfortunately it's not easy to break out of it.

I hope that he is truly remorseful and has learned from his actions. We don't know the guy so who's to say he's not?

Either way I'm not going to lose sleep over him playing football for the Redskins. The law and the league has already dealt with him.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by MTK

Hitting a child is definitely disgusting and beyond comprehension to me.

But it also makes me think about what fucked up situation AP must have gone in his life to become the type of person that could hurt his own child. Abuse is a pretty fucked up circle of violence and unfortunately it's not easy to break out of it.

I hope that he is truly remorseful and has learned from his actions. We don't know the guy so who's to say he's not?

Either way I'm not going to lose sleep over him playing football for the Redskins. The law and the league has already dealt with him.

He is 33, so he was born in 85, his parents likely were born in the 1940's, as a society, we have come a long way in a generation or two from what was socially acceptable. But individual families are not all so enlightened as the wise members of the warpath.

It's terrible to whip your kids like he did, but I do remember the paddle that hung in our laundry room as a reminder/warning, and I think my older brother may have felt it's sting once or twice.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

He is 33, so he was born in 85, his parents likely were born in the 1940's, as a society, we have come a long way in a generation or two from what was socially acceptable. But individual families are not all so enlightened as the wise members of the warpath.

It's terrible to whip your kids like he did, but I do remember the paddle that hung in our laundry room as a reminder/warning, and I think my older brother may have felt it's sting once or twice.

My parents were born in the 50s and you name it I have been hit with it: Shoes, open hand, closed fists, a cook spoon out of hot soup, a phone, my beatings even consisted of a 2x4 for a while. Hell I got called a bitch by my father at 6 and told I was the only problem in his life, had my nose broken because I missed the bus in 5th grade, and these arent even the worst things of the "discipline" I am just saying that this has nothing to do with him playing and people act like it happened this morning. Has he been accused or found guilty since this incident before??

[Ruhskins]

Were people up in arms this much when we signed Stallworth? Just curious, because I honestly can't remember. And I think that was the last time the team signed someone with a troubled past/issue.

Technically Gallette was, but I don't think nothing came about of that alleged video of him in a fight.

I feel that for the most part, the team has stayed away from these type of players/situations (unlike Dallas).

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Were people up in arms this much when we signed Stallworth? Just curious, because I honestly can't remember. And I think that was the last time the team signed someone with a troubled past/issue.

Technically Gallette was, but I don't think nothing came about of that alleged video of him in a fight.

I feel that for the most part, the team has stayed away from these type of players/situations (unlike Dallas).

Two totally different situations. In Stallworth's case, he hit someone who was walking outside of a crosswalk at night and very well could have been found innocent if he had gone to trial.

[Buffalo Bob]

Holy crap, he gave the kid a beating that made welts and drew blood. Anyone who claims that was normal discipline for a kid back in the day did not look at the pictures or has a perception of the past that is 100% wrong. I grew up in the 60's, the rule of thumb was if it left a mark that was there the next day or drew blood it was child abuse. My dad was a cop and a child abuser, he made sure he inflicted his pain without leaving lingering marks or drawing blood.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Holy crap, he gave the kid a beating that made welts and drew blood. Anyone who claims that was normal discipline for a kid back in the day did not look at the pictures or has a perception of the past that is 100% wrong. I grew up in the 60's, the rule of thumb was if it left a mark that was there the next day or drew blood it was child abuse. My dad was a cop and a child abuser, he made sure he inflicted his pain without leaving lingering marks or drawing blood.

I didn't mean to imply it was normal, but it wasn't as abnormal as it is in today's society. And it's a good thing that he was punished and made an example of.
Bottom line, he's a Redskin for this year, probably no more. If he can help the team, and not raise new off field issues, than I will root for the team with him.

I think the comparison most likely to change my point of view is MVick, because I could never root for that guy after all the abuse of the dogs, so maybe I am hypocritical because I won't put the same level of disgust on AP's time as a Redskin. I think the fact that he is legitimately a last option type candidate helps, and the fact that they could cut him tomorrow if he acts out in any way.

I dunno, tough case, and like Ruhskins said, I don't think anyone faults those whose opinion is that this stinks to high heaven.

[Schneed10]

I really don’t understand the morality police thing. You’re a fan of the team, worry about whether he can still play. Your opinions on whether his debts to society are satisfactorily paid are irrelevant.

Don’t kid yourselves, you’re going to continue rooting for the Skins no matter who they sign. So STFU and worry about football.