Bruce Allen FINALLY speaks....at the Senior Bowl

CRedskinsRule · 02-01-2019, 05:10 PM

Here is the game link from ProFootball Reference
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...en.htm#all_pbp

Schroeder came in for two plays in the first quarter (I guess DW got knocked down)

1st qtr 2:05 1 10 WAS 35 Doug Williams sacked by Daryll Jones for -10 yards
1st 1:43 2 20 WAS 25 Jay Schroeder sacked by Karl Mecklenburg for -8 yards
1st 1:21 3 28 WAS 17 Jay Schroeder pass incomplete intended for Kelvin Bryant
1st 0:59 4 28 WAS 17 Steve Cox punts 39 yards

Schneed10 · 02-01-2019, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Here is the game link from ProFootball Reference
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...en.htm#all_pbp

Schroeder came in for two plays in the first quarter (I guess DW got knocked down)

1st qtr 2:05 1 10 WAS 35 Doug Williams sacked by Daryll Jones for -10 yards
1st 1:43 2 20 WAS 25 Jay Schroeder sacked by Karl Mecklenburg for -8 yards
1st 1:21 3 28 WAS 17 Jay Schroeder pass incomplete intended for Kelvin Bryant
1st 0:59 4 28 WAS 17 Steve Cox punts 39 yards

Yes this is correct. Doug started the game - he was coming into it with a sprained knee. On that sack it bothered him and he came out. Schroeder came in and struggled. Then the first quarter ended, and the most memorable 2nd quarter in Redskins history started, with Doug back on the field.

Schneed10 · 02-01-2019, 05:18 PM

For those who want to relive, here is the game in its entirety. For younger fans who may not have seen this, it's a good watch. Should give you a little much needed pride in the franchise.

Schneed10 · 02-01-2019, 05:31 PM

I just watched it. It was a non-contact slip. He wrenched his knee as his foot when out when he dropped back on 1st and 10. Schroeder came in for two plays. Then Doug came back and lit it up.

htownskinfan · 02-01-2019, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

I just watched it. It was a non-contact slip. He wrenched his knee as his foot when out when he dropped back on 1st and 10. Schroeder came in for two plays. Then Doug came back and lit it up.

I've always thought skins lucked out big time on that play and I never hear mention of it{but I'm sure theres still pissed off Bronco fans about it!}But Williams just gives that ball up when he wrenches his knee and a Bronco recovers it,should have been Broncos ball IMO

Schneed10 · 02-01-2019, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I've always thought skins lucked out big time on that play and I never hear mention of it{but I'm sure theres still pissed off Bronco fans about it!}But Williams just gives that ball up when he wrenches his knee and a Bronco recovers it,should have been Broncos ball IMO

Under today's rule the replay would have allowed them to look at it and determine if it was a fumble and clear recovery.

But at the time, replay was not used for judgment calls like down by contact. Because the ref ruled Doug down by contact on the slip they couldn't go back and review it on replay.

But yeah you're right, they lucked out because the ref missed that the ball came out before he was touched down by contact. Definitely lucked out.

But with a final score of 42-10 I feel confident in saying we would have smacked that ass anyway. HTTR

htownskinfan · 02-01-2019, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Under today's rule the replay would have allowed them to look at it and determine if it was a fumble and clear recovery.

But at the time, replay was not used for judgment calls like down by contact. Because the ref ruled Doug down by contact on the slip they couldn't go back and review it on replay.

But yeah you're right, they lucked out because the ref missed that the ball came out before he was touched down by contact. Definitely lucked out.

But with a final score of 42-10 I feel confident in saying we would have smacked that ass anyway. HTTR

Maybe? Probably? Momentum can be a big thing,Broncos would have had it on their side of the 50,they go up 17-0 then who knows

Chief X_Phackter · 02-01-2019, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

maybe? Probably? Momentum can be a big thing,broncos would have had it on their side of the 50,they go up 17-0 then who knows

42-17

htownskinfan · 02-01-2019, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

42-17

metalskins · 02-03-2019, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Under today's rule the replay would have allowed them to look at it and determine if it was a fumble and clear recovery.

But at the time, replay was not used for judgment calls like down by contact. Because the ref ruled Doug down by contact on the slip they couldn't go back and review it on replay.

But yeah you're right, they lucked out because the ref missed that the ball came out before he was touched down by contact. Definitely lucked out.

But with a final score of 42-10 I feel confident in saying we would have smacked that ass anyway. HTTR

Yep. In fact, during the entire second half, the 'skins basically ran one play - counter-trey. Even if they had allowed the fumble on the Williams injury, who knows, maybe the 'skins would've wont 56-17.

BigHairedAristocrat · 02-13-2019, 12:48 PM

This isn't good news for the skins.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.d9c4b2eacb05

Even if one wasn't a fan of the skins building a stadium in MD, its one less option which reduces the teams leverage in negotiating a deal with DC or VA.

jamf · 02-14-2019, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

This isn't good news for the skins.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.d9c4b2eacb05

Even if one wasn't a fan of the skins building a stadium in MD, its one less option which reduces the teams leverage in negotiating a deal with DC or VA.

Sounds like MD negotiating.

BigHairedAristocrat · 02-15-2019, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jamf

Sounds like MD negotiating.

Probably, but it weakens the skins position. I don't live in the area, so i rarely attend games, so i personally don't care as much as others where the team plays... but getting in and out of fedex has been a nightmare every time I've been. Id like them in another location with better access to public transportation. I would definitely make the trip more often if that were the case.

Giantone · 02-15-2019, 12:33 PM

Snyder doesn't want it there and Hogan can't get the land ,it's a National Park.If the Skins stay in Maryland then they rebuild on the FED EX site .To me it will be on the old RFK site or somewhere in Loudoun County.

DYoungJelly · 02-15-2019, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jamf

Sounds like MD negotiating.

Liz Clarke from the Post was on Czabe's show yesterday.

She said based on her reporting and sources she didn't think it was a tactic.

02-01-2019, 05:10 PM	#76
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,452	Re: Bruce Allen FINALLY speaks....at the Senior Bowl Here is the game link from ProFootball Reference https://www.pro-football-reference.c...en.htm#all_pbp Schroeder came in for two plays in the first quarter (I guess DW got knocked down) 1st qtr 2:05 1 10 WAS 35 Doug Williams sacked by Daryll Jones for -10 yards 1st 1:43 2 20 WAS 25 Jay Schroeder sacked by Karl Mecklenburg for -8 yards 1st 1:21 3 28 WAS 17 Jay Schroeder pass incomplete intended for Kelvin Bryant 1st 0:59 4 28 WAS 17 Steve Cox punts 39 yards

02-01-2019, 05:18 PM	#78
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,426	Re: Bruce Allen FINALLY speaks....at the Senior Bowl For those who want to relive, here is the game in its entirety. For younger fans who may not have seen this, it's a good watch. Should give you a little much needed pride in the franchise. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

02-01-2019, 05:31 PM	#79
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,426	Re: Bruce Allen FINALLY speaks....at the Senior Bowl I just watched it. It was a non-contact slip. He wrenched his knee as his foot when out when he dropped back on 1st and 10. Schroeder came in for two plays. Then Doug came back and lit it up. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

02-13-2019, 12:48 PM	#86
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: Bruce Allen FINALLY speaks....at the Senior Bowl This isn't good news for the skins. https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.d9c4b2eacb05 Even if one wasn't a fan of the skins building a stadium in MD, its one less option which reduces the teams leverage in negotiating a deal with DC or VA. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

02-15-2019, 12:33 PM	#89
Giantone Gamebreaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 14,029	Re: Bruce Allen FINALLY speaks....at the Senior Bowl Snyder doesn't want it there and Hogan can't get the land ,it's a National Park.If the Skins stay in Maryland then they rebuild on the FED EX site .To me it will be on the old RFK site or somewhere in Loudoun County. __________________ ....DISCLAIMER: All of my posts/threads are my expressed typed opinion and the reader is not to assume these comments are absolute fact, law, or truth unless otherwise stated in said post/thread.

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