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Old 09-17-2021, 07:36 AM   #1
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Re: Giants postgame

Some of the coverage issues are fixable. We are mostly playing zone. I see DB’s and LB’s releasing receivers to nobody in order to cover an empty zone. Our players need to use their brains. Do not release a receiver late in a play. I don’t give a fuck about your zone responsibilities after 4 seconds into a play. The idea is to cover a man not make a pretty zone shape. The idea of zone is to get to your zone then cover the closest guy. Not stand around in your zone.
For a veteran #26 is not playing consistently. On the long QB run by Jones that was gifted back by a penalty, #26 blitzed and was in perfect position to blow up the play. Instead he ran right by him. There are 2 or 3 other plays where he is always a step behind.
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Old 09-17-2021, 08:10 AM   #2
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Some of the coverage issues are fixable. We are mostly playing zone. I see DB’s and LB’s releasing receivers to nobody in order to cover an empty zone. Our players need to use their brains. Do not release a receiver late in a play. I don’t give a fuck about your zone responsibilities after 4 seconds into a play. The idea is to cover a man not make a pretty zone shape. The idea of zone is to get to your zone then cover the closest guy. Not stand around in your zone.
For a veteran #26 is not playing consistently. On the long QB run by Jones that was gifted back by a penalty, #26 blitzed and was in perfect position to blow up the play. Instead he ran right by him. There are 2 or 3 other plays where he is always a step behind.
You can't fix Bostic and Holcolm in coverage. The only way to fix our LB's in coverage is to take them off the field.
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Old 09-17-2021, 08:48 AM   #3
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You can't fix Bostic and Holcolm in coverage. The only way to fix our LB's in coverage is to take them off the field.
Holcomb isn't that bad and is young so they should be able to "fix" him if needed. At least he has some speed. Bostic is a lost cause, even when he does get it he is too slow to keep up. It may be the case that one or two players are upsetting the whole coverage scheme and if you replace Bostic and Collins in coverage the rest of it will come together. But they seem to need Bostic to get everyone lined up pre snap. That is a failure of the front office and coaching staff to not fix that issue for the last 8 months when there were other viable alternatives
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Old 09-17-2021, 09:00 AM   #4
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Holcomb isn't that bad and is young so they should be able to "fix" him if needed. At least he has some speed. Bostic is a lost cause, even when he does get it he is too slow to keep up. It may be the case that one or two players are upsetting the whole coverage scheme and if you replace Bostic and Collins in coverage the rest of it will come together. But they seem to need Bostic to get everyone lined up pre snap. That is a failure of the front office and coaching staff to not fix that issue for the last 8 months when there were other viable alternatives
I still wouldn't threw out the idea of sending Collins down to LB.
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Old 09-17-2021, 07:58 AM   #5
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It was a great game, we had a bad start but we managed to break through.. You guys covered almost all points, especially about the defense.. So I want to point this out - Gibson averaged 5.3 yds per carry, why didn't Turner use him more in the game?
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It was a great game, we had a bad start but we managed to break through.. You guys covered almost all points, especially about the defense.. So I want to point this out - Gibson averaged 5.3 yds per carry, why didn't Turner use him more in the game?
He is our CMC now, he will get more carries for sure
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Taylor Heinicke is the first QB since at least 1978 with a go-ahead Pass TD, an interception and a game-winning drive in the final 5 minutes of regulation —all on 3 separate drives (per @EliasSports).
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Taylor Heinicke is the first QB since at least 1978 with a go-ahead Pass TD, an interception and a game-winning drive in the final 5 minutes of regulation —all on 3 separate drives (per
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99 times out of a 100 we lose that game. That was a gift from the god awful Giants. They're a total mess. 1-1 is so much better than 0-2. What a performance by TH.

As far as the guys on defense, what else can you say? They stink.
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Old 09-17-2021, 08:09 AM   #10
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Question about Heineken, can he be an effective starter answered last night.

Worried about the defense, but like said above can be fixed. I thought we were gonna play more man this year…guess not?
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Question about Heineken, can he be an effective starter answered last night.

Worried about the defense, but like said above can be fixed. I thought we were gonna play more man this year…guess not?
Fuller is bad now, idk what has happened.. WJ3 Is solid and will get better with the new scheme. Moreland should have been kept
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Fuller is bad now, idk what has happened.. WJ3 Is solid and will get better with the new scheme. Moreland should have been kept
Fuller was getting beat in outside coverage last year, he is much better as a slot.

There wasn't exactly a rush to sign Moreland once we cut him, if any team thought he was worth it they would have traded a 7th rounder for his rights. He would not be fixing our coverage issues
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Fuller is bad now, idk what has happened.. WJ3 Is solid and will get better with the new scheme. Moreland should have been kept
Don't know what you saw in Moreland, if he was any good he'd still be here.
Not even active for Texans week 1.

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Don't know what you saw in Moreland, if he was any good he'd still be here.
Not even active for Texans week 1.

He was a solid #4-5CB, but to think that somehow him being here this year would be making any difference whatsoever is a bit of a stretch.
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He was a solid #4-5CB, but to think that somehow him being here this year would be making any difference whatsoever is a bit of a stretch.
Totally agree, Moreland would be making zero difference right now. I get it, it was a curious move at the time to keep Apke mainly as a special teams guy, but Apke hasn't been out there. So what good would Moreland be doing right now considering he wouldn't even be playing.
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