The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

Defensewins · 02-04-2012, 07:29 PM

I smell desperation to get a QB. This talk of giving a ton to get a Qb is crazy.

NYCskinfan82 · 02-04-2012, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Where do you get the logic that we won't have many picks left. We could get him only losing a 2nd rounder this year.

Please expalin, I know the fact that they have the rookie salary cap/scale that has to be counted when trading for Bradford based on his remaining contract.

Evilgrin · 02-04-2012, 07:46 PM

Sam Bradford has great stuff, I'd take him over RG3.

BuckSkin · 02-04-2012, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Evilgrin

Sam Bradford has great stuff, I'd take him over RG3.

I don't always refer to stats, but in this case I feel it's warranted. Of 34 QB's ranked for the 2011 season Grossman was ranked 29th with a QB rating of 72.4 and 57.9 completion percentage. Bradford was ranked 30th, 70.5 QB rating and a 53.5 completion percentage.

Mechanix544 · 02-04-2012, 08:00 PM

Some places report that this is what it will take to get RG3 by trading up with the Rams,

WHAT WOULD IT COST: 2012 First Round Pick (No. 6 overall, 1600 points), 2012 Second Round Pick (No. 39 overall, 510 points), a 2012 Fourth Round Pick (No. 102 overall, 92 points), and a 2013 Second Round Pick (450 points, give or take).

*Ive seen sites that report this as the price, but Ive also seen one that replaces the second rounder this year with the skins 3rd rounder this year, and adds in Fred Davis.

Terpfan76 · 02-04-2012, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckSkin

I don't always refer to stats, but in this case I feel it's warranted. Of 34 QB's ranked for the 2011 season Grossman was ranked 29th with a QB rating of 72.4 and 57.9 completion percentage. Bradford was ranked 30th, 70.5 QB rating and a 53.5 completion percentage.

Keep in mind just how bad the talent is on the Rams offense. They have worse receivers than we do in my opinion. Basically they have Stephen Jackson and Brandon Lloyd.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 02-04-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Some places report that this is what it will take to get RG3 by trading up with the Rams,

WHAT WOULD IT COST: 2012 First Round Pick (No. 6 overall, 1600 points), 2012 Second Round Pick (No. 39 overall, 510 points), a 2012 Fourth Round Pick (No. 102 overall, 92 points), and a 2013 Second Round Pick (450 points, give or take).

*Ive seen sites that report this as the price, but Ive also seen one that replaces the second rounder this year with the skins 3rd rounder this year, and adds in Fred Davis.

And I would do that trade in a second.

Terpfan76 · 02-04-2012, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

We already have a drafted LT. Trent Williams.

I kinda wonder if Trent wouldn't be a better fit at RT. Khalil at LT and Williams at RT? Or Riley Reiff? Either way, even if stand pat at #6, we should end up with an instant impact player.

Mechanix544 · 02-04-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BuckSkin

I don't always refer to stats, but in this case I feel it's warranted. Of 34 QB's ranked for the 2011 season Grossman was ranked 29th with a QB rating of 72.4 and 57.9 completion percentage. Bradford was ranked 30th, 70.5 QB rating and a 53.5 completion percentage.

Did you by any chance see his receivers last year? I'm sorry, but if any very young quarterback gets a mulligan due to piss poor coaching and maybe the worst receiving corps in the history of the league, its Sam Bradford this past season.

He is a top ten quarterback in the league, no doubt in my mind. Gotta keep him upright and give him people that dont drop EVERY damn ball thrown to them.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 02-04-2012, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Did you by any chance see his receivers last year? I'm sorry, but if any very young quarterback gets a mulligan due to piss poor coaching and maybe the worst receiving corps in the history of the league, its Sam Bradford this past season.

He is a top ten quarterback in the league, no doubt in my mind. Gotta keep him upright and give him people that dont drop EVERY damn ball thrown to them.

Top 10? Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

Mechanix544 · 02-04-2012, 08:24 PM

Give him time to fling the ball, and even OUR receivers. He would succeed, trust me. Last season didn't really count in my eyes. The rams were an absolute complete mess. He is still just in his third year. He'll get there.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 02-04-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Give him time to fling the ball, and even OUR receivers. He would succeed, trust me. Last season didn't really count in my eyes. The rams were an absolute complete mess. He is still just in his third year. He'll get there.

He'll get there and top 10 are two different things.

BuckSkin · 02-04-2012, 08:29 PM

If Bradford was an UFA, yeah go get him. I just don't feel he's worth a 1st round draft pick or a player drafted in the first round.

Mechanix544 · 02-04-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

He'll get there and top 10 are two different things.

semantics. I guess I should have said top 10 "talent".

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 02-04-2012, 08:33 PM

Jeff George and Ryan Leaf were top 10 talents too.

02-04-2012, 07:29 PM	#946
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,749	Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search I smell desperation to get a QB. This talk of giving a ton to get a Qb is crazy.

02-04-2012, 07:46 PM	#948
Evilgrin The Starter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Bethesda, MD Posts: 1,074	Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search Sam Bradford has great stuff, I'd take him over RG3.

02-04-2012, 08:00 PM	#950
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,277	Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search Some places report that this is what it will take to get RG3 by trading up with the Rams, WHAT WOULD IT COST: 2012 First Round Pick (No. 6 overall, 1600 points), 2012 Second Round Pick (No. 39 overall, 510 points), a 2012 Fourth Round Pick (No. 102 overall, 92 points), and a 2013 Second Round Pick (450 points, give or take). Ive seen sites that report this as the price, but Ive also seen one that replaces the second rounder this year with the skins 3rd rounder this year, and adds in Fred Davis. Last edited by Mechanix544; 02-04-2012 at 08:02 PM.*

02-04-2012, 08:24 PM	#956
Mechanix544 The Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Fort Bliss, TX Posts: 2,277	Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search Give him time to fling the ball, and even OUR receivers. He would succeed, trust me. Last season didn't really count in my eyes. The rams were an absolute complete mess. He is still just in his third year. He'll get there.

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BuckSkin Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Eastern Ohio Age: 55 Posts: 232	Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search If Bradford was an UFA, yeah go get him. I just don't feel he's worth a 1st round draft pick or a player drafted in the first round. __________________ "Any Nation willing to give up a little freedom, to gain a little security, will deserve neither, and lose both." -Benjamin Franklin

02-04-2012, 08:33 PM	#960
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 35 Posts: 14,169	Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search Jeff George and Ryan Leaf were top 10 talents too. __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

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