Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?

[doughtydoubter]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So we sign KC and then we somehow steal the Browns first two picks?

Or we trade to Cleveland and someway get 1 and 4 and then you go RB on both?

Dare I say, I have doubts....

NO I was outlining what the browns plans should be.

[doughtydoubter]

Originally Posted by MTK

I’d say Kirk is already set up pretty well $$ wise. He just banked $43 million the last two years.

No Doubt- and i dont see him taking any charity or less money to play anywhere. People are tripping if they think that money isnt the primary and secondary motive for him. Hes already set himself up for live over those two years, time to set up his kids and grandkids with the next contract.
He just had a kid, so i guarantee you it is first and foremost and has been.

This PC stuff about Jesus told me to take the 1 year deal and money, and i want to win, and be part of making something great. Thats all well and good. Hes great at trying to protect his image and saying the right things.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

NO I was outlining what the browns plans should be.

they should go Running Back at 1 and 4? Very Browns of them

[Whathappenedtorg3]

I think he's done in D.C.

At a certain point there's just too much bad stuff in the past here for Kirk. To paraphrase Robin Yount the lead singer of Cheap Trick Kirk wants to be wanted and I think that Gruden and Snyder have never really been sold on Kirk.

Back in 2015 it was enough that he just wasn't RG3, but it's clear the organization doesn't believe in him and why would Kirk want to play for a team that isn't set up to win and an organization that doesn't feel like he's a real franchise QB.

It is fascinating to see him flirt with the idea of playing with Browns though where he'd be following RG3 again.

I thought he was going to try to reunite with Kyle Shanahan in SF but the emergence of Garrarapolo has put an end to that.

March is going to be interesting.

[mooby]

It's just my opinion, but it looks like Kirk's agent has really planted the seed that the key to this is patience because it's a win-win any way it goes. He either gets big money to stay here long term, or he gets big money on a 1 year tag, or he goes to free agency and gets big money from another team.

He's just paying us lip service when he talks about being with a winning team as the goal, because he's been here for 6 years and that's more than enough time to decide whether this team has a positive outlook for winning in the future.

I don't think he cares if he's tagged or not, because ultimately he is going to be a big financial winner and if it's not here he will have full control over his choice of suitors. I do think his agent has advised him that it's in his best interest to go to free agency, because then he has full control over his destination. But Kirk doesn't seem to care whether he stays here long term or goes somewhere else long term, only that wherever he does land will provide a good opportunity to him. He doesn't really seem obligated to stay with us.

[skinsfaninok]

The Jets have a projected $80 million in salary-cap space for 2018 that will balloon to at least $100 million with expected cuts of veterans such as Muhammad Wilkerson and Matt Forte.

Cousins, 29, has been franchised the last two seasons by the Redskins after failing to reach a deal on a long-term contract. Washington franchised Cousins for the 2017 season with a price tag of $23.9 million. If a player is franchised a third consecutive year, that salary increases by 144 percent, based on the collective-bargaining agreement.

[rickmmrr]

Originally Posted by irish

I know I'm in the minority but I find it refreshing to have a coach who will candidly answer question instead of just giving the usual BS non-answer answer. Its a cant win for these guys, when they answer honestly they are ripped for being honest and not giving a PC answer. When they give a BS non-answer they are ripped for giving what everyone knows is a non-answer. I like and appreciate that JG seems to be an open and honest coach.

I see where you're coming from. But it's hard for me to believe that Gruden is not aware that the media is always in a "feeding frenzy" always looking for drama. Their like starving sharks they can never get enough. Have a little discretion. Take Kirk into your office and tell him exactly what's on your mind. But when you're talking to the media, know it's the media you're talking to and have some discretion.

[MTK]

Very thin line between being open and honest and maybe saying a little too much, Gruden often dances on that line

[doughtydoubter]

Originally Posted by MTK

Very thin line between being open and honest and maybe saying a little too much, Gruden often dances on that line

Why shouldn't he dance on the line? Dude needs to hold his players accountable. He doesn't need to spoon them sugar all day long hoping when they go to sleep they feel better about themselves. Guess what Kirk? You played well at times. You also threw crucial picks that cost us the game sometimes.
You have developed into a serviceable qb. But you still haven't carried your team to win the big games when needed. Kirk got paid more money this year than any of us will see in our lifetime! Deal with the critique!
At this point I'm done with his Whining insecure posturing. He obviously does not want to be a Redskin, unless Dan Snyder pays him more than anybody with any sense would pay him.
Go to the browns and see how exciting life in Ohio is buddy.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I think Kirk is like that HS Girl that really doesn't know what she wants yet...

More like he's the girl that's been in a serious relationship for a couple years but is needy, has her eye on other dudes...and is waiting for the right time to bolt. That's Kirk Cousins.

I've just moved on from the guy after that press conference. He wants his ass kissed and wants to be wanted. He wants his ego stroked. Probably just too much past history here w/ RG3, Snyder and Bruce. He's going to realize that if he leaves the grass isn't greener on the other side.

[skinsfan69]

[QUOTE=MTK;1185526]Very thin line between being open and honest and maybe saying a little too much, Gruden often dances on that line[/QUOTE

Gruden's never going to be Joe Gibbs around the media.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

More like he's the girl that's been in a serious relationship for a couple years but is needy, has her eye on other dudes...and is waiting for the right time to bolt. That's Kirk Cousins.

I've just moved on from the guy after that press conference. He wants his ass kissed and wants to be wanted. He wants his ego stroked. Probably just too much past history here w/ RG3, Snyder and Bruce. He's going to realize that if he leaves the grass isn't greener on the other side.

It hardly ever is.

[calia]

Originally Posted by doughtydoubter

Why shouldn't he dance on the line? Dude needs to hold his players accountable. He doesn't need to spoon them sugar all day long hoping when they go to sleep they feel better about themselves. Guess what Kirk? You played well at times. You also threw crucial picks that cost us the game sometimes.
You have developed into a serviceable qb. But you still haven't carried your team to win the big games when needed. Kirk got paid more money this year than any of us will see in our lifetime! Deal with the critique!
At this point I'm done with his Whining insecure posturing. He obviously does not want to be a Redskin, unless Dan Snyder pays him more than anybody with any sense would pay him.
Go to the browns and see how exciting life in Ohio is buddy.

I think you hold players accountable in-house -- no need to do it through the media. It signals that you don't have enough of a relationship to deal with folks directly. You're all grown-ass men. Act like it.

[metalskins]

[quote=skinsfan69;1185548]

Originally Posted by MTK

Very thin line between being open and honest and maybe saying a little too much, Gruden often dances on that line[/QUOTE

Gruden's never going to be Joe Gibbs around the media.

Gruden and Belichick are probably the best ones at handling the media.

[calia]

I miss Coaches McKay (see my sig) and Mora (Playoffs!!??). Those were fun.