Trent Williams holding out for new deal

SFREDSKIN · 08-31-2019, 08:12 PM

So Tunsil wasn’t available huh? Should have traded Trent for Tunsil.

Randall Nestor · 08-31-2019, 08:20 PM

Dan needs to call BA in and ask him whose side is he on. We wouldn't have gotten that deal but it could have been a good one. I hope I'm wrong and something great comes up for TW before long but BA may have missed the boat.

mooby · 08-31-2019, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

We are the worst run franchise period.

I’m fuckin livid. I’m sure Texans would have giving up a 1st round pick and more. I can’t believe how fuckin retarded this piece of shit Bruce Allen is. I hate this mutherfucker

Don't be premature Chico, let's wait until this situation gets resolved before we start shitting on Bruce.

Randall Nestor · 08-31-2019, 08:29 PM

We try to trade people that don't have any trade value (doctson) and don't trade someone who does have trade value.

Chico23231 · 08-31-2019, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Randall Nestor

We try to trade people that don't have any trade value (doctson) and don't trade someone who does have trade value.

Retard central. He fucked this up like he fucked up the cousins deal.

Warthog · 08-31-2019, 10:14 PM

The Texans gave up:

TWO First Round draft picks
One Second Round draft pick
2 players.

Why did we not take that deal? Because if two reasons:

1. Bruce Allen, who is a puppet of Dan Snyder, is incompetent.

2. Dan Snyder is petty and thus angry that Trent Williams doesn’t want to play here anymore. IF HE WON’T PLAY FOR US, HE’S NOT PLAYING FOR ANYONE.

Dan Snyder may be THE worst owner in the NFL. Certainly the team of Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen is a complete disaster for this franchise.

TW will not play here this year and we will get some weak deal next year for a draft pick. I underestimated how bad Bruce Allen was and how petty and low Dan Snyder could go.

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CRedskinsRule · 08-31-2019, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Warthog

The Texans gave up:

TWO First Round draft picks
One Second Round draft pick
2 players.

Why did we not take that deal? Because if two reasons:

1. Bruce Allen, who is a puppet of Dan Snyder, is incompetent.

2. Dan Snyder is petty and thus angry that Trent Williams doesn’t want to play here anymore. IF HE WON’T PLAY FOR US, HE’S NOT PLAYING FOR ANYONE.

Dan Snyder may be THE worst owner in the NFL. Certainly the team of Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen is a complete disaster for this franchise.

TW will not play here this year and we will get some weak deal next year for a draft pick. I underestimated how bad Bruce Allen was and how petty and low Dan Snyder could go.

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There is no way the texans offered us that for trent, but likely they heard rumbling and set a similar bar for trent. Werent pepple just criticizing BA for not taking the Pats offer?

At this point you wait and see if
A) TW comes back - i think we would all like that.
Or
B) a LT for a non division team gets hurt and now we have Tunsils deal as a point of reference.

Some of you all wanna bitch because bitching is easy. You have to wait for the result to make a verdict.

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mooby · 08-31-2019, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Warthog

The Texans gave up:

TWO First Round draft picks
One Second Round draft pick
2 players.

Why did we not take that deal? Because if two reasons:

1. Bruce Allen, who is a puppet of Dan Snyder, is incompetent.

2. Dan Snyder is petty and thus angry that Trent Williams doesn’t want to play here anymore. IF HE WON’T PLAY FOR US, HE’S NOT PLAYING FOR ANYONE.

Dan Snyder may be THE worst owner in the NFL. Certainly the team of Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen is a complete disaster for this franchise.

TW will not play here this year and we will get some weak deal next year for a draft pick. I underestimated how bad Bruce Allen was and how petty and low Dan Snyder could go.

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We don't even know what deal they offered, why is this even a debate?

I'm calling it even with no faith in front office or coaching staff, if anybody offered 2 firsts for Trent, let alone what the Dolphins got, we would've been on that like a pig on shit. There's no way any player on this roster isn't worth 2 first rounders.

Chico23231 · 08-31-2019, 11:34 PM

Yo...that deal Texans gave to the dolphins was the desperation trade we needed.

Seriously...if Bruce was picking up the phone and saying we aren’t trading him without listening and engaging then he fucked up big time.

First, we agree that was a desperate move and an overpay by the Texans. It def was

Second what did the Texans need more than anything...a Tackle.

Third, a first round pick for Trent was the established bottom per the New England attempt.

Lastly, Trent is clearly the better tackle than Tunsil. Look at what Texans gave up...so a first and a 3rd round seem out of range for Trent vs what the Texans paid for Tunsil?

Bruce fucked up royally. The Texans just made the desperate move we were searching for folks. We will never get close to that for Trent now.

mooby · 09-01-2019, 12:11 AM

You know what the best part of this Texans-Dolphins trade is? Ya'll acting like Kenny Stills ain't shit. He gives the Texans a solid #2 at a position where they have talented but off-injured guys. But nah, the way this trade is talked about around here it's almost as if the Dolphins had to sell the Texans on taking Stills too.

Schneed10 · 09-01-2019, 12:22 AM

Chico you’re proving yourself to be the most irrational spaz on this board. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Chief X_Phackter · 09-01-2019, 01:04 AM

Honestly the Tunsil trade just gives the Redskins more leverage, in my opinion. Now the price, if you want Trent, has been set. I think it's pretty clear that Trent either plays under the current contract, sits out the year, or his agent brings a haul equal to or better than what the Dolphins got for Tunsil.

FrenchSkin · 09-01-2019, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Honestly the Tunsil trade just gives the Redskins more leverage, in my opinion. Now the price, if you want Trent, has been set. I think it's pretty clear that Trent either plays under the current contract, sits out the year, or his agent brings a haul equal to or better than what the Dolphins got for Tunsil.

Kinda agree.
It's glass half full vs glass half empty.

On one hand we may have missed a tremendous offer and lost a potential desperate LT buyer... on the other hand the price for an elite LT (+a young WR) has now been set crazy high and the next desperate LT buyer will have to come close to that kind of offer.

Objectively we're in a good negotiating position... but I get that your confidence our FO will handle this well can be low.

Chico23231 · 09-01-2019, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mooby

You know what the best part of this Texans-Dolphins trade is? Ya'll acting like Kenny Stills ain't shit. He gives the Texans a solid #2 at a position where they have talented but off-injured guys. But nah, the way this trade is talked about around here it's almost as if the Dolphins had to sell the Texans on taking Stills too.

Man, last couple years I’ve brought up Stills several times as a type of WR we need...solid veteran presence who can run routes and fly. I like him in that deal. But again we are talking 2 first rounders and a second. Is Stills worth even a second rounder...when AB garnered a 3rd?

Don’t get me wrong, I like Tunsil as well but Texans paid a ridiculous price. With Texans and Pats both making trades to secure Oline help, the market significantly shrunk for TW. Hoping he shows, but the opportunity to get a first and 2nd or first and 3rd, significant compensation for what everyone here mostly agreed as the top left tackle in the game...that’s probably passed.

The big trade last year was All Pro Khalil Mack who was exchanged for 2 first rounders and 3rd round...but Oakland sent them a second rounder pick back along with Mack.

AnonEmouse · 09-01-2019, 06:21 AM

The only way TW gets traded this week is if someone with likely high to mid round prospects comes up with a 1st and change, or a top WR (and change?). I don't see anyone with a WR they are willing to let go, so we're trading him for future options or holding onto hope he reverses course. Personally I can't see him ever wearing B&G again so we either balls it up like by letting him sit out 2019 or swallow our pride and get valuable picks. But who's in the market for an LT now that the Texans and Patriots have done their deals? The Phins seem to be building for the future with youth, so I can't see them replacing Tunsil with anyone over 30. Can't see anyone left willing to shell out high picks at this stage.

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08-31-2019, 08:12 PM	#1006
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal So Tunsil wasn’t available huh? Should have traded Trent for Tunsil. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

08-31-2019, 08:20 PM	#1007
Randall Nestor Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 124	Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal Dan needs to call BA in and ask him whose side is he on. We wouldn't have gotten that deal but it could have been a good one. I hope I'm wrong and something great comes up for TW before long but BA may have missed the boat.

08-31-2019, 08:29 PM	#1009
Randall Nestor Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 124	Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal We try to trade people that don't have any trade value (doctson) and don't trade someone who does have trade value.

08-31-2019, 10:14 PM	#1011
Warthog The Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Doylestown, PA Posts: 1,253	Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal The Texans gave up: TWO First Round draft picks One Second Round draft pick 2 players. Why did we not take that deal? Because if two reasons: 1. Bruce Allen, who is a puppet of Dan Snyder, is incompetent. 2. Dan Snyder is petty and thus angry that Trent Williams doesn’t want to play here anymore. IF HE WON’T PLAY FOR US, HE’S NOT PLAYING FOR ANYONE. Dan Snyder may be THE worst owner in the NFL. Certainly the team of Dan Snyder and Bruce Allen is a complete disaster for this franchise. TW will not play here this year and we will get some weak deal next year for a draft pick. I underestimated how bad Bruce Allen was and how petty and low Dan Snyder could go. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Four Combat Tours in Afghanistan, Iraq and Kuwait. Flyboy. "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave"

08-31-2019, 11:34 PM	#1014
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,505	Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal Yo...that deal Texans gave to the dolphins was the desperation trade we needed. Seriously...if Bruce was picking up the phone and saying we aren’t trading him without listening and engaging then he fucked up big time. First, we agree that was a desperate move and an overpay by the Texans. It def was Second what did the Texans need more than anything...a Tackle. Third, a first round pick for Trent was the established bottom per the New England attempt. Lastly, Trent is clearly the better tackle than Tunsil. Look at what Texans gave up...so a first and a 3rd round seem out of range for Trent vs what the Texans paid for Tunsil? Bruce fucked up royally. The Texans just made the desperate move we were searching for folks. We will never get close to that for Trent now. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

09-01-2019, 12:11 AM	#1015
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,468	Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal You know what the best part of this Texans-Dolphins trade is? Ya'll acting like Kenny Stills ain't shit. He gives the Texans a solid #2 at a position where they have talented but off-injured guys. But nah, the way this trade is talked about around here it's almost as if the Dolphins had to sell the Texans on taking Stills too.

09-01-2019, 12:22 AM	#1016
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal Chico you’re proving yourself to be the most irrational spaz on this board. Stop embarrassing yourself. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

09-01-2019, 01:04 AM	#1017
Chief X_Phackter Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 5,613	Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal Honestly the Tunsil trade just gives the Redskins more leverage, in my opinion. Now the price, if you want Trent, has been set. I think it's pretty clear that Trent either plays under the current contract, sits out the year, or his agent brings a haul equal to or better than what the Dolphins got for Tunsil.

09-01-2019, 06:21 AM	#1020
AnonEmouse The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Age: 58 Posts: 2,441	Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal The only way TW gets traded this week is if someone with likely high to mid round prospects comes up with a 1st and change, or a top WR (and change?). I don't see anyone with a WR they are willing to let go, so we're trading him for future options or holding onto hope he reverses course. Personally I can't see him ever wearing B&G again so we either balls it up like by letting him sit out 2019 or swallow our pride and get valuable picks. But who's in the market for an LT now that the Texans and Patriots have done their deals? The Phins seem to be building for the future with youth, so I can't see them replacing Tunsil with anyone over 30. Can't see anyone left willing to shell out high picks at this stage.

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