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Old 03-08-2010, 12:51 PM   #1
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I would definitely do it. Either Tryon or Barnes would play opposite D.Hall, we dump Rogers, who doesn't want to be here, and we bring in an instant home rome threat in Sproles.
Ditto, we need those picks more than we need to replace Bricks-for-hands.
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Would you trade Rogers and our 2nd rounder for Sproles and a 3rd? Keep in mind it would be the last pick in the 3rd round

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Argh. I wouldn't be too pleased. Tryon and Barnes don't make me feel warm and fuzzy competing for that spot. Rogers might be a knucklehead, but he's a pretty good corner even though he can't catch. RB is the last thing we need to be TRADING for. Now if Sproles was free, I'd be all over it, but not at the cost you mention above.
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Old 03-08-2010, 12:57 PM   #3
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Argh. I wouldn't be too pleased. Tryon and Barnes don't make me feel warm and fuzzy competing for that spot. Rogers might be a knucklehead, but he's a pretty good corner even though he can't catch. RB is the last thing we need to be TRADING for. Now if Sproles was free, I'd be all over it, but not at the cost you mention above.
Keep in mind we could always trade down a few spots in the first round, still drafting in the first round mind you, and pick up another team's second round pick.

So now we have a mid to late round first rounder, a second rounder via another team, and a third (from the Chargers). In that scenario, we've essentially traded 'Los for Sproles straight up. Not quite, but you get the point.
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Keep in mind we could always trade down a few spots in the first round, still drafting in the first round mind you, and pick up another team's second round pick.

So now we have a mid to late round first rounder, a second rounder via another team, and a third (from the Chargers). In that scenario, we've essentially traded 'Los for Sproles straight up. Not quite, but you get the point.
It's true but I get nervous about something that might not be a proven commodity. Say what you will about his hands, but Carlos locks down most receivers.
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Would you trade Rogers and our 2nd rounder for Sproles and a 3rd? Keep in mind it would be the last pick in the 3rd round

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I don't like it at all. It smells like Champ Portis with less talented players.

They would be getting a full time starter at a premium position and a much better pick.

We are getting a very explosive (and fairly expensive) role player at an interchangable position.

Pass if you ask me.
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I don't like it at all. It smells like Champ Portis with less talented players.

They would be getting a full time starter at a premium position and a much better pick.

We are getting a very explosive (and fairly expensive) role player at an interchangable position.

Pass if you ask me.
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I think that that would be a fair trade. Might as well do it if they don't plan on keeping Rogers next year.
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Would you trade Rogers and our 2nd rounder for Sproles and a 3rd? Keep in mind it would be the last pick in the 3rd round

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Probably could draft a better, every down back with our 2nd round pick...think there going to be some pretty good RBs to fall to the second round.
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Would you trade Rogers and our 2nd rounder for Sproles and a 3rd? Keep in mind it would be the last pick in the 3rd round

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I wouldn't. The argument for trading Rogers is best supported by his age relative to corners on the open market (older than Bodden, roughly same age as Buchanon..who was drafted three years before), but Sproles is a 27 year old RB, which puts him at roughly the same distance from "the end" as Rogers.

So once it's established that getting Sproles and giving up Rogers isn't really an upgrade (it at least moves some defensive talent to the offensive end), the rest of the trade is obvious enough. I would be interested if San Diego could offer us their late third rounder, and take our fifth off our hands.
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Re: Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread

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No way in hell I would do that. I really hope that rumor is not true. We need more picks not less. That's basically a 4th round pick and our 2nd round pick is a high #2. terrible...
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Old 03-08-2010, 03:16 PM   #11
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Would you trade Rogers and our 2nd rounder for Sproles and a 3rd? Keep in mind it would be the last pick in the 3rd round

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That deal would be even worse than the Portis/Bailey trade in my opinion. I don't even think Vinny would have been dumb enough to do that trade and he's the guy who gave up a 2nd and a 6th for Jason Taylor. If we were to do a trade involving those players, it would have to be a straightup trade. I wouldnt even throw in a 7th rounder and i'd be inclined to insist they provide something else. Rogers may have bad hands but he does a pretty good job of shutting receviers down most of the time. He's definitely a starting corner in the league. You don't trade starting corners for #3 running backs/return men.
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That deal would be even worse than the Portis/Bailey trade in my opinion. I don't even think Vinny would have been dumb enough to do that trade and he's the guy who gave up a 2nd and a 6th for Jason Taylor. If we were to do a trade involving those players, it would have to be a straightup trade. I wouldnt even throw in a 7th rounder and i'd be inclined to insist they provide something else. Rogers may have bad hands but he does a pretty good job of shutting receviers down most of the time. He's definitely a starting corner in the league. You don't trade starting corners for #3 running backs/return men.
Exactly...a starting CB is harder to find and therefor worth more then a RB. A straight up trade is not even fair. The Chargers were letting Sprolles walk until they saw interest and thought they could get a draft pick. Let them get it from someone else.
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Would you trade Rogers and our 2nd rounder for Sproles and a 3rd? Keep in mind it would be the last pick in the 3rd round

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no. take our 2nd out and i'd do it. rogers for sproles and their 3rd.
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i wouldnt trade carlos for sproles straight up so i certainly wouldnt throw in our very high 2nd round pick for a late 3rd.

that 2nd round pick has huge value in my opinion for a team needing O line help. I really think at that spot we can add a potential 10 year starter on the O line.

im just not sold on sproles as anything more than a luxury player.
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i wouldnt trade carlos for sproles straight up so i certainly wouldnt throw in our very high 2nd round pick for a late 3rd.

that 2nd round pick has huge value in my opinion for a team needing O line help. I really think at that spot we can add a potential 10 year starter on the O line.

im just not sold on sproles as anything more than a luxury player.

I agree. I am confident that we can get a day one starter with the 4th pick in the 2nd round. Late pick in the 3rd? I am not nearly as confident.
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