Trayvon Martin Case

Chico23231 · 07-12-2013, 07:23 PM

If Sean would have killed them, than Stand your ground would have applied. Threshold of law is usually the doorway, window...once someone comes in your household without permission and intent to harm, they are fair game to be killed.

JoeRedskin · 07-12-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

If Sean would have killed them, than Stand your ground would have applied. Threshold of law is usually the doorway, window...once someone comes in your household without permission and intent to harm, they are fair game to be killed.

Pretty much. Except "and intent to harm" isn't needed. It is presumed someone breaking into your home has an "intent to harm".

RGIII · 07-12-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

killing someone in the commission of a felony (B&E, home invasion, robbery) is a way different situation. not comparable

Impersonating an officer is a crime. Now what?

JoeRedskin · 07-12-2013, 07:33 PM

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Well I guess we can stop crying over Sean Taylor's death using your twisted (legal) logic. Clearly Sean was killed by the intruders who feared their own lives.

Yes. Clearly to some here, the presumption of innocence we are ALL entitled to when accused of a crime is pretty "twisted (legal) logic".

Pitchforks and torches are so much easier and require much less thought.

RGIII · 07-12-2013, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Pretty much. Except "and intent to harm" isn't needed. It is presumed someone breaking into your home has an "intent to harm".

Not true.

JoeRedskin · 07-12-2013, 07:38 PM

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Impersonating an officer is a crime. Now what?

Really? You realize he wasn't even charged with that? That even the prosecution didn't once allege that's what he was doing?

Got your lynching rope all ready to go I take it.

CRedskinsRule · 07-12-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RGIII

Not true.

That is powerful legal persuasiveness right there.

HailGreen28 · 07-12-2013, 07:51 PM

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That is powerful legal persuasiveness right there.

LOL, I know, right?

"RGIII" had me totally convinced at the bit about [breaking into someone's home and trying to bust down the bedroom door where that someone's girlfriend and baby daughter are] is the same as [following someone outdoors in a public area, then that someone is on top of you beating you up].

I can hardly wait to hear what "RGIII" thinks "impersonating a police officer" means.

RGIII · 07-12-2013, 08:46 PM

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Really? You realize he wasn't even charged with that? That even the prosecution didn't once allege that's what he was doing?

Got your lynching rope all ready to go I take it.

Well since you guys are so smart, play nigg-- I mean devil's advocate and defend Martin's case. You guys got OJ off the first time right? Or were you guys mad at that because he was black. The truth is, if Zimmerman was a gung-ho black wannabe cop who killed a white kid in the same scenario he would have be, tried, found guilty of murder, and executed the same day. Dead giveaway, dead giveaway...

SmootSmack · 07-12-2013, 08:51 PM

Not cool man. Not cool

Chico23231 · 07-12-2013, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Pretty much. Except "and intent to harm" isn't needed. It is presumed someone breaking into your home has an "intent to harm".

Yeah...i added on at the end. I thought about after and intent is understood.

I tell you what interesting is confusion around someone in your yard and taking property. In Va you cant shoot and kill someone in breaking into/stealing your car or stealing property out the yard. But I want to say thats different around the country. In some states i think you can. Not sure I could be the one confused...

RedskinRat · 07-12-2013, 09:00 PM

One of the more idiotic posts on WP, ever, RGIII, AND I include all of mine in that calculation.

Chico23231 · 07-12-2013, 09:01 PM

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Well since you guys are so smart, play nigg-- I mean devil's advocate and defend Martin's case. You guys got OJ off the first time right? Or were you guys mad at that because he was black. The truth is, if Zimmerman was a gung-ho black wannabe cop who killed a white kid in the same scenario he would have be, tried, found guilty of murder, and executed the same day. Dead giveaway, dead giveaway...

*sigh*

saden1 · 07-12-2013, 09:18 PM

Zimmermqn said that Martin circled his car and despite his "fear" of him he still managed to get out of his car. That is not reasonable and it certainly diminishes his claim of fearing for his life. If the question is if there is a reason to doubt the evidence against him I can find non.

JoeRedskin · 07-12-2013, 10:16 PM

Even though I recognize you believe it did not happen to that way, explain how the factual scenario I set forth in post 1016 could not be true by using only direct evidence or inferences consistent with those in the post.

07-12-2013, 07:23 PM	#1021
Chico23231 Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 34,505	Re: Trayvon Martin Case If Sean would have killed them, than Stand your ground would have applied. Threshold of law is usually the doorway, window...once someone comes in your household without permission and intent to harm, they are fair game to be killed. __________________ My pronouns: King/Your ruler He Gets Us

07-12-2013, 08:51 PM	#1030
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Trayvon Martin Case Not cool man. Not cool __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

07-12-2013, 09:18 PM	#1034
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Trayvon Martin Case Zimmermqn said that Martin circled his car and despite his "fear" of him he still managed to get out of his car. That is not reasonable and it certainly diminishes his claim of fearing for his life. If the question is if there is a reason to doubt the evidence against him I can find non. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

07-12-2013, 10:16 PM	#1035
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Even though I recognize you believe it did not happen to that way, explain how the factual scenario I set forth in post 1016 could not be true by using only direct evidence or inferences consistent with those in the post. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

07-12-2013, 09:00 PM	#1032
RedskinRat Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: I'm in LA, trick! Posts: 8,700	One of the more idiotic posts on WP, ever, RGIII, AND I include all of mine in that calculation.

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