Sean Taylor Spitting Video (merged)

onlydarksets · 01-11-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

Just watching 'Sounds of the Game' on NFL Network and they had the referee Mike Carey wired for sound. He was all over Taylor right away. Another ref tried to lobby for offsetting fouls for Pittman's punch but was rebuffed by Carey. The other official responds "Are you sure Mike?" Carey then announces that there will be no flag for retaliation. Later, when Omar Stoutmire asks Carey why Taylor was ejected, Carey tells him that he spit on Pittman and nearly spit on him (Carey) as well. "That would have been really bad" says Carey. After watching that I have no doubt about what happened. Taylor was the spitter. If I am Gregg Williams I am not happy about being lied to either. Everyone makes mistakes but to lie about it is childish and reveals a lack of character. He put Williams in bad position.

FYI, TMC posted that clip to the first post of this thread.

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

Alot of the highlights were based around Mike Carey's being miked and I have to say that he did a great job in that game. If the league had 15 more like him Mike Perreira would have alot less explaining to do on Wednesdays.

I agree 100% - I really thought the refs did a good job in that game. I would have liked to see an offsetting penalty on Pittman, but I can understand Carey's decision.

12thMan · 01-11-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

Just watching 'Sounds of the Game' on NFL Network and they had the referee Mike Carey wired for sound. He was all over Taylor right away. Another ref tried to lobby for offsetting fouls for Pittman's punch but was rebuffed by Carey. The other official responds "Are you sure Mike?" Carey then announces that there will be no flag for retaliation. Later, when Omar Stoutmire asks Carey why Taylor was ejected, Carey tells him that he spit on Pittman and nearly spit on him (Carey) as well. "That would have been really bad" says Carey. After watching that I have no doubt about what happened. Taylor was the spitter. If I am Gregg Williams I am not happy about being lied to either. Everyone makes mistakes but to lie about it is childish and reveals a lack of character. He put Williams in bad position.

Alot of the highlights were based around Mike Carey's being miked and I have to say that he did a great job in that game. If the league had 15 more like him Mike Perreira would have alot less explaining to do on Wednesdays.

Okay, I didn't see the program...could you see Taylor spit from their camera angles or was it the same angle just with Carey being miked?

I don't know, I'm just asking.

70Chip · 01-11-2006, 02:34 PM

Its NFL Films so it's a different view than ESPN. I didn't see any spit per se but Carey definitely saw something. It may be that the video that shows the spit was doctored to frame a guilty man. Someone with better computers than me should compare. I use dial up so I don't even like to download video. It takes too long. However, I suspect that if the NFL films angle was definitive it would be played ad nauseum in order to put Williams on the spot.

"How does it feel to be lied to coach?"

MTK · 01-11-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

Its NFL Films so it's a different view than ESPN. I didn't see any spit per se but Carey definitely saw something. It may be that the video that shows the spit was doctored to frame a guilty man. Someone with better computers than me should compare. I use dial up so I don't even like to download video. It takes too long. However, I suspect that if the NFL films angle was definitive it would be played ad nauseum in order to put Williams on the spot.

"How does it feel to be lied to coach?"

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-11-2006, 02:39 PM

I think Pittman spit on Taylor and it's just running off Taylor's facemask! That sandbaggin' son-of-a-bitch!

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-11-2006, 02:40 PM

I gotta' say, doctored or not, I REALLY feel like we would have seen THAT much spit on the original replay.

12thMan · 01-11-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I gotta' say, doctored or not, I REALLY feel like we would have seen THAT much spit on the original replay.

That's pretty much the way I feel too. Not that Taylor didn't do it, but, WOW, it's very visual, clear, and evident that Taylor spat. On all the other cameras, you don't see anything.....at all.

Schneed10 · 01-11-2006, 03:21 PM

The other thing, if you look at it a couple times again and again, you see that the spit falls from Taylor's face mask and as it goes to the ground, you can see it getting closer to Taylor.

The only way you can spit and then have the spit appear to come towards your body is if:
A) You are walking towards the spit and you catch up to it a bit.
B) You can spit boomerang style, projecting it out and then have it change direction in mid-air.

I'm not even kidding, this is a magic-loogie case! But seriously, the more I look at it, the more obvious it is that it's doctored. We all saw the replays on TV, and we know Taylor was not moving towards Pittman. He was standing still the whole time, and yet the spit fell towards Taylor's body.

Schneed10 · 01-11-2006, 03:30 PM

Also, I have a hard time believing that if Taylor really wanted to spit in Pittman's face, he wouldn't have been capable of spraying him right in the grill. If you're trying to spit on someone, that loogie comes flying out with force. You don't miss from 2 feet away. It doesn't make sense why a loog would dribble out of his mouth like the video shows.

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-11-2006, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Also, I have a hard time believing that if Taylor really wanted to spit in Pittman's face, he wouldn't have been capable of spraying him right in the grill. If you're trying to spit on someone, that loogie comes flying out with force. You don't miss from 2 feet away. It doesn't make sense why a loog would dribble out of his mouth like the video shows.

You know you're right. Look at the arc of the spit when it comes out. Taylor doesn't move but the spit looks like a basketball shot.

FirstandTen · 01-11-2006, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Also, I have a hard time believing that if Taylor really wanted to spit in Pittman's face, he wouldn't have been capable of spraying him right in the grill. If you're trying to spit on someone, that loogie comes flying out with force. You don't miss from 2 feet away. It doesn't make sense why a loog would dribble out of his mouth like the video shows.

It looks like it hits the bottom bar of his face mask. It may have got stuck on the bar and swung back towards him.

Schneed10 · 01-11-2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FirstandTen

It looks like it hits the bottom bar of his face mask. It may have got stuck on the bar and swung back towards him.

Interesting theory, but I think we'd see some spit strings if that were the case (Jenna Jameson anyone? LOL). It appears to make it all the way to the edge of Pittman's facemask and then start backtracking towards Taylor.

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-11-2006, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Schneed10

Interesting theory, but I think we'd see some spit strings if that were the case (Jenna Jameson anyone? LOL). It appears to make it all the way to the edge of Pittman's facemask and then start backtracking towards Taylor.

Wow. I can't believe you pulled that one out! LOL

And what's even sadder is that at least 99% of us know what you're talking about.

Redskins_P · 01-11-2006, 03:39 PM

Maybe Taylor is just a juicy talker??????

MTK · 01-11-2006, 03:39 PM

The camera is panning right to left which makes it look like the spit is falling towards ST.

Let's say for a second the video is a fake, then how do the conspiracy theorists explain the audio from the clip? Pittman immediately starts yelling that Taylor spit at him.

I think I'd fall for the we didn't land on the moon conspiracy over this one.

01-11-2006, 02:34 PM	#3
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 55 Posts: 3,048	Re: Sean Taylor Spitting Video Its NFL Films so it's a different view than ESPN. I didn't see any spit per se but Carey definitely saw something. It may be that the video that shows the spit was doctored to frame a guilty man. Someone with better computers than me should compare. I use dial up so I don't even like to download video. It takes too long. However, I suspect that if the NFL films angle was definitive it would be played ad nauseum in order to put Williams on the spot. "How does it feel to be lied to coach?" __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

01-11-2006, 02:39 PM	#5
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 45 Posts: 19,272	Re: Sean Taylor Spitting Video I think Pittman spit on Taylor and it's just running off Taylor's facemask! That sandbaggin' son-of-a-bitch! __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-11-2006, 02:40 PM	#6
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 45 Posts: 19,272	Re: Sean Taylor Spitting Video I gotta' say, doctored or not, I REALLY feel like we would have seen THAT much spit on the original replay. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-11-2006, 03:21 PM	#8
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 47 Posts: 12,458	Re: Sean Taylor Spitting Video The other thing, if you look at it a couple times again and again, you see that the spit falls from Taylor's face mask and as it goes to the ground, you can see it getting closer to Taylor. The only way you can spit and then have the spit appear to come towards your body is if: A) You are walking towards the spit and you catch up to it a bit. B) You can spit boomerang style, projecting it out and then have it change direction in mid-air. I'm not even kidding, this is a magic-loogie case! But seriously, the more I look at it, the more obvious it is that it's doctored. We all saw the replays on TV, and we know Taylor was not moving towards Pittman. He was standing still the whole time, and yet the spit fell towards Taylor's body.

01-11-2006, 03:30 PM	#9
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 47 Posts: 12,458	Re: Sean Taylor Spitting Video Also, I have a hard time believing that if Taylor really wanted to spit in Pittman's face, he wouldn't have been capable of spraying him right in the grill. If you're trying to spit on someone, that loogie comes flying out with force. You don't miss from 2 feet away. It doesn't make sense why a loog would dribble out of his mouth like the video shows.

01-11-2006, 03:39 PM	#14
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 48 Posts: 4,101	Re: Sean Taylor Spitting Video Maybe Taylor is just a juicy talker??????

01-11-2006, 03:39 PM	#15
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,121	Re: Sean Taylor Spitting Video The camera is panning right to left which makes it look like the spit is falling towards ST. Let's say for a second the video is a fake, then how do the conspiracy theorists explain the audio from the clip? Pittman immediately starts yelling that Taylor spit at him. I think I'd fall for the we didn't land on the moon conspiracy over this one. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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