Time to bench Brunell? (Mega Man Merge)

MTK · 09-18-2006, 08:34 AM

It's too early to bring in JC. Until we get some other things fixed, it just wouldn't be fair to bring him into this shit storm.

gibbsisgod · 09-18-2006, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's too early to bring in JC. Until we get some other things fixed, it just wouldn't be fair to bring him into this shit storm.

The shit storm would seem so bad if our offense could put some points on the board. And that all starts at the QB position. I refuse to believe that our playmakers just did not get open last night. Every time Moss touches the football, he can take it to the house. Why did we not try to get him the ball more? Do you think Newman played that well? I saw a couple of times Moss was running down the sideline 5 yards behing the defense and MB overlooked him. Cooley has been nonexistent, but when he did get open MB made a bad throw. I refuse to believe that all of these "playmakers" that we have are all just playing that bad, and MB is making the right decisions. If we had a QB that could beat the blitz, they wouldn't blitz as much! Every time the other team bring the blitz MB just throws it away, or waits to long and takes a sack. Thats not bad playcalling. thats bad QBing.

Twilbert07 · 09-18-2006, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's too early to bring in JC. Until we get some other things fixed, it just wouldn't be fair to bring him into this shit storm.

I must disagree because:

1) If Brunell starts next week, we lose at lowly Houston, which scored 24 points yesterday.
2) If we had started Campbell Games 1 and 2, and he were 0-2, at least he;d have two games under his belt.
3) Brunell was afraid to make any plays last night. He looked like a first-year starter and as lost as any QB I've seen in a while. Even Chris Simms made a play or two, and he was horrible.

ArtMonkDrillz · 09-18-2006, 08:50 AM

I'm sure someone said something along the lines of what I'm about to say, but there is no way I'm going back and reading all these posts, so sorry if I repeat some people.

I voted for yes. I think the game in Houston is the perfect game to give Campbell his first start int he NFL. They always say you want to start a young QB on the road. The Texans are probably the worst team we're going to face on the raod this season. NO might be worse, but that game is so late the in the season that that he probably needs to start before then.
Houston's D is obviously not that good, they've already given up 7 TD throws (granted, they were to McNabb and the good Manning, but still). Thi s means he could have some success to get his confidence up.

This season is quickly going down the shitter and he's got to get in there sometime. If Portis is healthy next week I see no reason to plug Campbell in and see if he really is our quarterback of the future or just another bust.

ArtMonkDrillz · 09-18-2006, 08:54 AM

Sorry guys, I knew I wasn't that original.

gibbsisgod · 09-18-2006, 08:59 AM

Im all for JC being the #2 QB next week and if brunell struggles we put him in. If he is the #3 qb he cant play unless there are injuries.(the qb rules are screwed up.)

Twilbert07 · 09-18-2006, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

Im all for JC being the #2 QB next week and if brunell struggles we put him in. If he is the #3 qb he cant play unless there are injuries.(the qb rules are screwed up.)

I don't think it's "if" Brunell struggles next week, but "when" he struggles next week. His physical ability remains suspect, but what makes this year worse is that his mental state is suspect. He peaked in Week 14 last year, but we had the defense to score for us at Philly and at Tampa in the playoffs.

Dogtag · 09-18-2006, 09:04 AM

The QB is a very small part of this problem. Folks - our O-line is not executing. Our D-line is not putting pressure on the opposing QB. And there is an unacceptable lack of discipline as evidenced by the number of penalties being thrown our way.

The QB is a lightening rod for criticism; however, right now he is not the underlying problem. In fact - without his field savy in getting rid of the ball without a lot of turnovers, the score would have been worse.

Excuses don't count ... play better!

Currently we are performing poorly.

12thMan · 09-18-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dogtag

The QB is a very small part of this problem. Folks - our O-line is not executing. Our D-line is not putting pressure on the opposing QB. And there is an unacceptable lack of discipline as evidenced by the number of penalties being thrown our way.

The QB is a lightening rod for criticism; however, right now he is not the underlying problem. In fact - without his field savy in getting rid of the ball without a lot of turnovers, the score would have been worse.

Excuses don't count ... play better!

Currently we are performing poorly.

One problem begets another. The offensive line woes are largely due to Brunell's inefficiencies. The line can only do so much when your offense is as predictable as ours.

MTK · 09-18-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

One problem begets another. The offensive line woes are largely due to Brunell's inefficiencies. The line can only do so much when your offense is as predictable as ours.

Really?

So Samuels getting beat around the corner is due to MB?

Jansen flinching on false starts is due to MB?

I'm not letting MB off the hook completely, but there were several occassions last night where it was an absolute jail break on the pass rush.

VTSkins897 · 09-18-2006, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Really?

So Samuels getting beat around the corner is due to MB?

Jansen flinching on false starts is due to MB?

I'm not letting MB off the hook completely, but there were several occassions last night where it was an absolute jail break on the pass rush.

Partly. If you can't make quick decisions then it is due to MB. I personally think it sucks that he has no gas left... I liked the guy.

cowboykiller89 · 09-18-2006, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Really?

So Samuels getting beat around the corner is due to MB?

Jansen flinching on false starts is due to MB?

I'm not letting MB off the hook completely, but there were several occassions last night where it was an absolute jail break on the pass rush.

There was a jail break all day on Eli Manning too, especially on that last blitz the Eagles threw at him before he got the ball to Plaxico. Did he lose his composure? Don't think so! Needless to say, you know what the end result was in that game! Mark Brunell is done! And as long as he continues to start, we will continue to lose! (Exception: Houston Texans) But if we lose that game too then everything we have been saying about Mark Brunell will have been validated.

cowboykiller89 · 09-18-2006, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dogtag

The QB is a very small part of this problem. Folks - our O-line is not executing. Our D-line is not putting pressure on the opposing QB. And there is an unacceptable lack of discipline as evidenced by the number of penalties being thrown our way.

The QB is a lightening rod for criticism; however, right now he is not the underlying problem. In fact - without his field savy in getting rid of the ball without a lot of turnovers, the score would have been worse.

Excuses don't count ... play better!

Currently we are performing poorly.

Really, what happened to his savvy when he threw that interception to Roy Williams? That one could have tied the game. In my opinion, that turnover simply deflated us, we practically threw in the towel at that point. We can all see that the Redskins have many small things that they need to work on but Brunell is the core of those problems bud, everything else is just orbiting him like the planets around the sun!

railcon56 · 09-18-2006, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogtag

The QB is a very small part of this problem. Folks - our O-line is not executing. Our D-line is not putting pressure on the opposing QB. And there is an unacceptable lack of discipline as evidenced by the number of penalties being thrown our way.

The QB is a lightening rod for criticism; however, right now he is not the underlying problem. In fact - without his field savy in getting rid of the ball without a lot of turnovers, the score would have been worse.

Excuses don't count ... play better!

Currently we are performing poorly.

NO O-Line can protect for a QB taking a 7 step drop!!! And those are 7 Sloooooowww step to brother....

NYCSkin · 09-18-2006, 09:08 AM

No team in the league is afraid of Brunell. They know he is finished. He basically does one of three things now: dump to the back, throw the short out, or throws the ball away. With that knowledge, defenses will have an easy time against our offense.

The only way we get them to back off and respect our downfield passing game is putting Campbell in. You can say it is too early for him but right now I can't stomach watching Brunell and his 3 YPA and 35 QB rating. At the very least Campbell needs some reps this week. If the Skins are inept in the first half next week, Gibbs as the CEO of this team needs to pull Brunell and have Campbell start the second half...

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09-18-2006, 08:34 AM	#1
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Time to bench Brunell? It's too early to bring in JC. Until we get some other things fixed, it just wouldn't be fair to bring him into this shit storm. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-18-2006, 08:50 AM	#4
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 43 Posts: 8,029	Re: Time to bench Brunell? I'm sure someone said something along the lines of what I'm about to say, but there is no way I'm going back and reading all these posts, so sorry if I repeat some people. I voted for yes. I think the game in Houston is the perfect game to give Campbell his first start int he NFL. They always say you want to start a young QB on the road. The Texans are probably the worst team we're going to face on the raod this season. NO might be worse, but that game is so late the in the season that that he probably needs to start before then. Houston's D is obviously not that good, they've already given up 7 TD throws (granted, they were to McNabb and the good Manning, but still). Thi s means he could have some success to get his confidence up. This season is quickly going down the shitter and he's got to get in there sometime. If Portis is healthy next week I see no reason to plug Campbell in and see if he really is our quarterback of the future or just another bust. __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

09-18-2006, 08:54 AM	#5
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 43 Posts: 8,029	Re: Time to bench Brunell? Sorry guys, I knew I wasn't that original. __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

09-18-2006, 08:59 AM	#6
gibbsisgod Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: 129 W 81st street Age: 47 Posts: 3,503	Re: Time to bench Brunell? Im all for JC being the #2 QB next week and if brunell struggles we put him in. If he is the #3 qb he cant play unless there are injuries.(the qb rules are screwed up.)

09-18-2006, 09:04 AM	#8
Dogtag Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dumfries, VA Age: 73 Posts: 241	Re: Time to bench Brunell? The QB is a very small part of this problem. Folks - our O-line is not executing. Our D-line is not putting pressure on the opposing QB. And there is an unacceptable lack of discipline as evidenced by the number of penalties being thrown our way. The QB is a lightening rod for criticism; however, right now he is not the underlying problem. In fact - without his field savy in getting rid of the ball without a lot of turnovers, the score would have been worse. Excuses don't count ... play better! Currently we are performing poorly.

09-18-2006, 09:08 AM	#15
NYCSkin Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 54 Posts: 513	Re: Time to bench Brunell? No team in the league is afraid of Brunell. They know he is finished. He basically does one of three things now: dump to the back, throw the short out, or throws the ball away. With that knowledge, defenses will have an easy time against our offense. The only way we get them to back off and respect our downfield passing game is putting Campbell in. You can say it is too early for him but right now I can't stomach watching Brunell and his 3 YPA and 35 QB rating. At the very least Campbell needs some reps this week. If the Skins are inept in the first half next week, Gibbs as the CEO of this team needs to pull Brunell and have Campbell start the second half...

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