Grade Jason Campbell

[gibbs4life]

Originally Posted by rickmmrr

He did great. too bad our defense didn't allow him to get on the field.

im right there with ya ..
our defense is lifeless right now......campbell was very solid for his first start.
should have started by week 4...

[GTripp0012]

Our defense was lifeless under MB, and it's just as lifeless now.

I don't know who honestly thought a QB change would improve the defense...but they must fool themseleves often.

But yeah, this game gave me no reason to believe that Jason Campbell will not one day reach his statistical projection.

[hail_2_da_skins]

Wow! Some of you guys are either Mark Brunell family members or on drugs. How can you give Campbell anything but good grades for yesterday's performance. In one game, I saw a totally different offense from the dink and dunk, three yards and a cloud of dust crap that Brunell was directing early part of the year. The Redskin offense looked like, for the first time this year, a professional offense. Plays were being attempted downfield with a moderate amount of success. Previously, the deep ball was non-existant. The Redskins rarely threw more than 15 yards downfield. Yesterday, the Skins were consistantly throwing over the middle and took a few shots deep. Mark Brunell better brush up on his clipboard duties, find a well fitted hat and a comfortable spot on the bench. I don't want to see #8 on the field as a Redskin anymore.

[illdefined]

what would the grade be had Ladell not fumbled, or that lucky bounce in the Tampa endzone bounced the other way?

[The Zimmermans]

Originally Posted by illdefined

what would the grade be had Ladell not fumbled, or that lucky bounce in the Tampa endzone bounced the other way?

U think it was actually luck, or our players being unaware as usual??????

[onlydarksets]

Yeah, it looked like Rogers was running around to celebrate, then realized, "Oops - they caught it!".

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

Wow! Some of you guys are either Mark Brunell family members or on drugs. How can you give Campbell anything but good grades for yesterday's performance. In one game, I saw a totally different offense from the dink and dunk, three yards and a cloud of dust crap that Brunell was directing early part of the year. The Redskin offense looked like, for the first time this year, a professional offense. Plays were being attempted downfield with a moderate amount of success. Previously, the deep ball was non-existant. The Redskins rarely threw more than 15 yards downfield. Yesterday, the Skins were consistantly throwing over the middle and took a few shots deep. Mark Brunell better brush up on his clipboard duties, find a well fitted hat and a comfortable spot on the bench. I don't want to see #8 on the field as a Redskin anymore.

Yes, but as much as the vertical game was a part of this week's offense, you'd be fooling yourself to think the offense as a whole played any better. We didn't improve in yards (passing or rushing), points, or any other metric.

So if you look at the situation in a vaccuum, Jason Campbell vs. Mark Brunell this year, this team, we only have one Campbell performance to grade, but it was below what you would have expected from Mark Brunell.

So I think it's important to note the conditions, (and you don't) that Jason Campbell was making his first NFL start without Portis or Moss, and that your expectation for him was considerably lower than that of Brunell. Of course to do that, you'd have to admit that things could get a lot worse than they were under Brunell. But once you acknowledge the conditions, like I have, then you grade JC on a curved scale, and you have to like what you see.

The key is that if there is no dropoff between the QB's, then the decision to move toward the future when we did was the right one. I think Campbell did very well, all things considered, and there was a very insignificant dropoff in QB play overall.

Of course it was only a three point game...so I don't know if we would have won it with Brunell in.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by illdefined

what would the grade be had Ladell not fumbled, or that lucky bounce in the Tampa endzone bounced the other way?

A-/B+. You can't allow things he can't control to affect analysis of his performance.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

U think it was actually luck, or our players being unaware as usual??????

It was luck, pure and simple.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

U think it was actually luck, or our players being unaware as usual??????

Ladell hasnt fumbled much in his career, and that bounce was right in his arms, not much could be done unfortunately.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

A-/B+. You can't allow things he can't control to affect analysis of his performance.

agreed, thats what i gave him too.

[The Zimmermans]

I don't look to luck when evaluating our defense's performance. It should have been pass interference on Rogers, then he was too busy celebrating to realize that they caught it. Plus, why couldnt anyone else have gone after that ball, very typical, we are always "unlucky", i'd consider it more unaware than unlucky. maybe we could have recovered the fumble sean taylor forced as well. By the way, why does rogers talk sh&t, when he gets beat more often than not, im starting to really dislike him. Is williams the reason that our players never jump on fumbles and deflections? Hey, I'm still happy we got two turnovers, finally got over that hump.

[The Zimmermans]

ladell is a fumbler, you will see once he gets more of the load. Portis is just amazing at avoiding fumbles.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yes, but as much as the vertical game was a part of this week's offense, you'd be fooling yourself to think the offense as a whole played any better. We didn't improve in yards (passing or rushing), points, or any other metric.

in the eagles game:
6 punts, 3 points, 1 int (16/31, 132yrds, 0 tds) - with moss + portis + almost 150 yards on the ground

vs TB:
5 punts, 20 points, 0 ints (19/34, 196yrds, 2 tds) - w/o moss/portis and under 70 rushing yards.

so, by every metric it was better than what finally got brunell benched. campbell's stats were also better than brunells in the dallas game (yards, tds, turnovers), and again, brunell had portis and a running game.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

Yeah, it looked like Rogers was running around to celebrate, then realized, "Oops - they caught it!".

I saw that too. Rogers is really starting to irritate me. The guy doesn't even seem focused.

Maybe thats why I see him all the time in Tysons taking shots in Coastal Flats.....