Must-Read Article on GW and the Defense

GoSkins! · 11-25-2006, 07:39 PM

Good article. Bad message.

It also could have been Wright or Jimoh...

724Skinsfan · 11-25-2006, 08:34 PM

Who says it's a defensive player that is the source? The guys who have been the most vocal and opinionated to the media thus far have been offensive players (Jansen and Portis). Brunell just lost his job, maybe he wants to let the world know that the it ain't all his fault. I haven't checked any of theses contracts yet to see which one's is over soon...but I'll do so...right...NOW!

12thMan · 11-25-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Who says it's a defensive player that is the source? The guys who have been the most vocal and opinionated to the media thus far have been offensive players (Jansen and Portis). Brunell just lost his job, maybe he wants to let the world know that the it ain't all his fault. I haven't checked any of theses contracts yet to see which one's is over soon...but I'll do so...right...NOW!

Couldn't be Brunell...not after that wonderful Thank you, Mark Brunell thread that was started! Naw, couldn't have been him.

724Skinsfan · 11-25-2006, 08:56 PM

Nope, the only one who's contract ends soon is Betts....hmmm.

To be continued...

hooskins · 11-25-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Nope, the only one who's contract ends soon is Betts....hmmm.

To be continued...

lol, I highly doubt it is someone on the offense, bc this player knows way too much about the defensive schemes, the meetings, etc.

Also see this quote, there is no way this play would know this without being a DB or safety.

Scapegoat No. 3: Rogers. He's the cornerback that was left on an island on the go-ahead touchdown Sunday against Tampa Bay's Joey Galloway. Williams blitzed and missed, costing the team the score. Afterward, Williams took public blame for the call, a rarity, but a Redskins player said, "No, he didn't. In meetings, Carlos still heard about it."

724Skinsfan · 11-25-2006, 09:07 PM

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lol, I highly doubt it is someone on the offense, bc this player knows way too much about the defensive schemes, the meetings, etc.

Also see this quote, there is no way this play would know this without being a DB or safety.

Scapegoat No. 3: Rogers. He's the cornerback that was left on an island on the go-ahead touchdown Sunday against Tampa Bay's Joey Galloway. Williams blitzed and missed, costing the team the score. Afterward, Williams took public blame for the call, a rarity, but a Redskins player said, "No, he didn't. In meetings, Carlos still heard about it."

Right. Players talk amongst themselves, though. Any Defensive and Offensive player can get together for Madden 2007 Marathon and start talking all night about all the bullshit on both sides of the ball. What one guy hears can easily be relayed to another through the grapevine. Not to mention if it were an offensive player he doesn't have as much to worry about if it gets out that he was the one talking.

I'm fairly convinced it is a defensive player but it won't shock me to find that these are the whispers of a disgruntled offensive player.

Skins_4_Lyfe · 11-25-2006, 08:08 PM

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I could have been Wright, he is in a one year contract. He is another player that I cant believe has been so bad. He started on a Jags team that went to the AFC Championship game.

Wright?...I almost forgot he was on our team...but I doubt if it were him, the player seem to be speaking of events that have taken place since he was here, and Wright doesn't even have a year under his belt. Nor is he familiar with the the way our player in the past were handled such as Clark, Arrington, and Pierce. I'm certain it's Springs.

hooskins · 11-25-2006, 08:10 PM

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Wright?...I almost forgot he was on our team...but I doubt if it were him, the player seem to be speaking of events that have taken place since he was here, and Wright doesn't even have a year under his belt. Nor is he familiar with the the way our player in the past were handled such as Clark, Arrington, and Pierce. I'm certain it's Springs.

Yeah that is what I think too, but this does not go with the Triple X radio report that the player who leaked this wanted out soon, when his contract ended. But Springs contract isnt ending till 09...

chris36 · 11-25-2006, 04:41 PM

Youre right, but Springs as far as I can see is nowhere near the end of his contract

12thMan · 11-25-2006, 06:29 PM

Couple of things: GW's denfense has slipped little by little since 2004. Two people that should have never, ever left Washington was Antonio Pierce and Ryan Clark. All the rest you can have...maybe Walt Harris was a keeper, but oh well.

Secondly, I don't think the fact that this article has come out in the public will affect the Redskins any more adversly than it already has. I don't think these type of things affect the locker room like we think they do. I don't get the impression that this player is a locker room cancer, but on the contrary, he's simply sharing a common sentiment that has already exsited for most of the season. The reality is these guys talk to each other all the time, on the cell phone, text message, they go shopping and eating together, they party together...hell, they even shower together! So no one is going to be blown away by this article, I think. What was shared isn't new at Redskin Park or to any of the Redskins...it's just new to us.

I think Gibbs has their attention right now, but the real question is, is it too little, too late?

dall-assblows · 11-25-2006, 07:08 PM

it was arrington i bet

12thMan · 11-25-2006, 07:10 PM

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it was arrington i bet

No way, dude. He said, notable Redskin. Uh..LaVar is Giant...and not too notable.

dall-assblows · 11-25-2006, 07:13 PM

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No way, dude. He said, notable Redskin. Uh..LaVar is Giant...and not too notable.

that doesn't mean they are telling the truth. do you believe everything you hear or read?

plus if it was arrington and theyy said it was a redskin, wouldn't that further hide the fact that it was arrington?

12thMan · 11-25-2006, 07:17 PM

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that doesn't mean they are telling the truth. do you believe everything you hear or read?

plus if it was arrington and theyy said it was a redskin, wouldn't that further hide the fact that it was arrington?

Seriously, what credibilty would this article have if it was Arrington? It's well known that he parted on bad terms. So as far as Arringington having a beef with Williams is really a moot point, and that would be seriously weak journalism. As a matter of fact, how would Arrington know that the coaches aren't meeting?

dall-assblows · 11-25-2006, 07:21 PM

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Seriously, 1-what credibilty would this article have if it was Arrington? It's well known that he parted on bad terms. So as far as Arringington having a beef with Williams is really a moot point, and that would be seriously weak journalism. As a matter of fact, 2-how would Arrington know that the coaches aren't meeting?

1-i dont know, let me think. hello! he was a redskin in this defense for years.

2-how would any player know that if arrington doesn't?

11-25-2006, 07:39 PM	#1
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 57 Posts: 1,587	Re: Must-Read Article on GW and the Defense Good article. Bad message. It also could have been Wright or Jimoh... __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

11-25-2006, 08:34 PM	#2
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Must-Read Article on GW and the Defense Who says it's a defensive player that is the source? The guys who have been the most vocal and opinionated to the media thus far have been offensive players (Jansen and Portis). Brunell just lost his job, maybe he wants to let the world know that the it ain't all his fault. I haven't checked any of theses contracts yet to see which one's is over soon...but I'll do so...right...NOW! __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

11-25-2006, 08:56 PM	#4
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Must-Read Article on GW and the Defense Nope, the only one who's contract ends soon is Betts....hmmm. To be continued... __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

11-25-2006, 04:41 PM	#9
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Re: Must-Read Article on GW and the Defense Youre right, but Springs as far as I can see is nowhere near the end of his contract

11-25-2006, 06:29 PM	#10
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Must-Read Article on GW and the Defense Couple of things: GW's denfense has slipped little by little since 2004. Two people that should have never, ever left Washington was Antonio Pierce and Ryan Clark. All the rest you can have...maybe Walt Harris was a keeper, but oh well. Secondly, I don't think the fact that this article has come out in the public will affect the Redskins any more adversly than it already has. I don't think these type of things affect the locker room like we think they do. I don't get the impression that this player is a locker room cancer, but on the contrary, he's simply sharing a common sentiment that has already exsited for most of the season. The reality is these guys talk to each other all the time, on the cell phone, text message, they go shopping and eating together, they party together...hell, they even shower together! So no one is going to be blown away by this article, I think. What was shared isn't new at Redskin Park or to any of the Redskins...it's just new to us. I think Gibbs has their attention right now, but the real question is, is it too little, too late?

11-25-2006, 07:08 PM	#11
dall-assblows The Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: round the way Age: 43 Posts: 2,211	Re: Must-Read Article on GW and the Defense it was arrington i bet __________________ SOMEBODY PINCH ME

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