Mort on the Portis trade rumors

JDALY27 · 03-12-2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

How do you know Betts works harder? And I find it hard to believe that Betts "cares more" when he fumbles in the red zone, and basically chuckles about it on the bench, while the defense tries to clean up the mess he just made.

And I don't even understand the celebrities comment. So one of the knocks on Portis is that he has a personality?

Eagles game last year in Philly. Portis goes down with injury. MB finally gets pulled. Season looks lost and hopeless at best.

The offensive line and Betts totally stepped up and "played thier guts out" for a cause. Jason Campbell made strides and hope Portis is part of that this new year.

I just think he's a little too caught up in the Miami night life for my liking. Just my opinion, nothing more.

DGreene28 · 03-12-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JDALY27

If Portis gets off to a slow start he's riding the pine in 07'. Betts is not as talented but works harder and cares more! He knows that football players are not celebreties, does CP know that?

Betts is a better pass catcher out of the back-field and he returns kickoffs if you need him to, one for a touchdown last year.

Portis is explosive with his blocks and speed, just hope he holds up physically with the surgeries.

A star football payer and a celeb are one in the same. So that arguement is pretty stupid. CP has a great personality and has been great in the locker room. Betts is a good change of pace who will help keep CP rested. He's also a pretty good insurance policy if he can get rid of the fumblitis and stop injuring our O-linemen.

70Chip · 03-12-2007, 04:55 PM

One asset the Portis brings is leadership. You need a few talkers on the team, especially when your QB is as meek as Campbell.

Portis plays every game like it is his last. Furthermore, he seems to do it compulsiveley and without judgement. That's how he got hurt last year. Other players know that better then we do and it takes the whole team up a notch. The Portis of 2006 was operating at about 2/3 capacity. I expect him to explode in 2007. I don't do F.F., but those of you who do should start figuring out how to get Portis right now. If they didn't have Betts to rest him he would get 2000+ yards.

JDALY27 · 03-12-2007, 04:58 PM

[quote=DGreene28;287155]A star football payer and a celeb are one in the same. So that arguement is pretty stupid.

um.......ok.

DGreene28 · 03-12-2007, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stu_nna

tough back? Please, we got ripped off by getting him, he gets paid like a top back but never produces like one. He speaks out against the team's coaching, decision making, His biggest upside is his football savy, and that's not really sayin much. This year he needs to put up some decent football numbers, and minimize the complaints, or get out of town. Maybe find a job with the NFL network or something.

You're kidding with this post right?

1) He produced 2 seasons as a "Top back"
2) He is one of the few leaders on this team - He'll ask for the ball when the entire offense wants to run the ball more and keep things loose in locker room
3) He is one of the most talented RB's in the NFL and is just about to hit his prime

What would you deem "decent football numbers" ?

jdlea · 03-12-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DGreene28

You're kidding with this post right?

1) He produced 2 seasons as a "Top back"
2) He is one of the few leaders on this team - He'll ask for the ball when the entire offense wants to run the ball more and keep things loose in locker room
3) He is one of the most talented RB's in the NFL and is just about to hit his prime

What would you deem "decent football numbers" ?

And he's 10 times the blocker Betts is...that would lead me to believe Clinton tends to put in a little bit of work...

DGreene28 · 03-12-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DGreene28

A star football payer and a celeb are one in the same. So that arguement is pretty stupid.

um.......ok.

ce·leb·ri·ty
–noun, plural 1.a famous or well-known person. 2.fame; renown.

Peyton Manning = Celebrity
Terrell Owens = Celebrity
Clinton Portis = Celebrity

Conclusion -If you get paid money to do hungry man commercials and have fans who don't watch football then you are a celebrity

JDALY27 · 03-12-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JDALY27

ce·leb·ri·ty
–noun, plural 1.a famous or well-known person. 2.fame; renown.

Peyton Manning = Celebrity
Terrell Owens = Celebrity
Clinton Portis = Celebrity

Conclusion -If you get paid money to do hungry man commercials and have fans who don't watch football then you are a celebrity

Do you know Peyton Manning got paid 200k to show up at a birthday party?? LOL!! What a doosh bag.

TO, did you know he actually dropped more balls than he caught while forcing a hall of fame coach into retirment. (I hate the Cowboys so I'm happy about that one).

I'd rather not compare CP to either one of those men.

But if you have to.......um.........ok.

jdlea · 03-12-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JDALY27

But if you have to.......um.........ok.

Wow...all of your responses of "um...okay" are so insightful, thank you for adding so much to the board.

JDALY27 · 03-12-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

Wow...all of your responses of "um...okay" are so insightful, thank you for adding so much to the board.

Most people who know me say I'm insightful. You're not the first. Thanks!

jdlea · 03-12-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JDALY27

Most people who know me say I'm insightful. You're not the first. Thanks!

I'm not trying to say you're not, outside of those 2 posts, I would just rather see you make an attempt to prove your point or disprove the other person's.

Redskins_P · 03-12-2007, 05:42 PM

Are you guys seriously saying that Portis (who owns the franchise record for yds in one season) is overpaid and doesn't produce? Are you talking about the same RB who put the team on his back (at least the offense) and led us on the 6 game winning streak in 05? The same one who injured himself in a PRESEASON game tackling a defender that was about to run a INT back for a TD?

This is ridiculous. This thread should've died 2 years ago.

JDALY27 · 03-12-2007, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

I'm not trying to say you're not, outside of those 2 posts, I would just rather see you make an attempt to prove your point or disprove the other person's.

Good point.

When DGREEN went with "stupid" I gave him stupid.

No need for that here.

Lets just agree to disagree next time DGREEN!!

FRPLG · 03-12-2007, 05:48 PM

I can't speak for every personel guy in the league but I seriously doubt there is even one, ONE, that believes Ladell Betts is even remotely in the same league as Clinton Portis. Clinton Portis is an elite back. His numbers for his career are staggering in terms of yards while Ladell's are simply mediocre. Now I believe Ladell to be better than mediocre. His talent level exceeds that but health has betrayed him. To me even if Ladell was healthy all those years he isn't anywhere near as good as Portis.

Portis simply put has more talent as a back. He is faster, more elusive, a tougher runner(yes he is), quicker. You can say Ladell is a better receiver but all I know is that they never seem to throw Portis the ball much. I am guessing that is because he gets shadowed a lot more than Betts does therefore he is not as open. Why does he get shadowed more? Well I'd say most defensive coordinators stay awake at night trying to figure out how to keep the ball out of the hands of a guy like Portis with some open room in front of him. I know for a fact that Ladell on a swing scares me a whole hell of a lot less than does Portis.

Portis was injured last year so I am guessing people have simply forgotten how good he actually is. There are no comparisons in my opinion..

Pocket$ $traight · 03-12-2007, 06:29 PM

Let's just apply one ounce of sense to all of this. Everyone know who Joe Gibbs is? Good.

Joe Gibbs has Clinton Portis and Ladell Betts on his roster and Joe Gibbs doesn't care who hangs out in Miami or who does sideline reporting. All Joe Gibbs cares about is winning and Clinton Portis is the feature back of the Washington Redskins.

I know the offseason is boring right now and we need something to talk about but the bottom line is that Portis is the better back and barring injury he will start week one.

03-12-2007, 04:55 PM	#93
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: Mort on the Portis trade rumors One asset the Portis brings is leadership. You need a few talkers on the team, especially when your QB is as meek as Campbell. Portis plays every game like it is his last. Furthermore, he seems to do it compulsiveley and without judgement. That's how he got hurt last year. Other players know that better then we do and it takes the whole team up a notch. The Portis of 2006 was operating at about 2/3 capacity. I expect him to explode in 2007. I don't do F.F., but those of you who do should start figuring out how to get Portis right now. If they didn't have Betts to rest him he would get 2000+ yards. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

03-12-2007, 04:58 PM	#94
JDALY27 Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2006 Age: 45 Posts: 271	Re: Mort on the Portis trade rumors [quote=DGreene28;287155]A star football payer and a celeb are one in the same. So that arguement is pretty stupid. um.......ok.

03-12-2007, 05:42 PM	#102
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Mort on the Portis trade rumors Are you guys seriously saying that Portis (who owns the franchise record for yds in one season) is overpaid and doesn't produce? Are you talking about the same RB who put the team on his back (at least the offense) and led us on the 6 game winning streak in 05? The same one who injured himself in a PRESEASON game tackling a defender that was about to run a INT back for a TD? This is ridiculous. This thread should've died 2 years ago.

03-12-2007, 05:48 PM	#104
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: Mort on the Portis trade rumors I can't speak for every personel guy in the league but I seriously doubt there is even one, ONE, that believes Ladell Betts is even remotely in the same league as Clinton Portis. Clinton Portis is an elite back. His numbers for his career are staggering in terms of yards while Ladell's are simply mediocre. Now I believe Ladell to be better than mediocre. His talent level exceeds that but health has betrayed him. To me even if Ladell was healthy all those years he isn't anywhere near as good as Portis. Portis simply put has more talent as a back. He is faster, more elusive, a tougher runner(yes he is), quicker. You can say Ladell is a better receiver but all I know is that they never seem to throw Portis the ball much. I am guessing that is because he gets shadowed a lot more than Betts does therefore he is not as open. Why does he get shadowed more? Well I'd say most defensive coordinators stay awake at night trying to figure out how to keep the ball out of the hands of a guy like Portis with some open room in front of him. I know for a fact that Ladell on a swing scares me a whole hell of a lot less than does Portis. Portis was injured last year so I am guessing people have simply forgotten how good he actually is. There are no comparisons in my opinion..

03-12-2007, 06:29 PM	#105
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 48 Posts: 4,261	Re: Mort on the Portis trade rumors Let's just apply one ounce of sense to all of this. Everyone know who Joe Gibbs is? Good. Joe Gibbs has Clinton Portis and Ladell Betts on his roster and Joe Gibbs doesn't care who hangs out in Miami or who does sideline reporting. All Joe Gibbs cares about is winning and Clinton Portis is the feature back of the Washington Redskins. I know the offseason is boring right now and we need something to talk about but the bottom line is that Portis is the better back and barring injury he will start week one.

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