Derrick Dockery signs with the Bills

Pocket$ $traight · 03-02-2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Wow, they gave him the money Steve Hutchinson got. No f'ing way he is worth that much. He is not even 60% as good as Steve Hutchinson (best OG in the game IMO).

Best of luck to Doc and props to him and his agent for getting that kind of money.

Actually Dock's deal has 2 million more in guaranteed money...

The only criticism you could lay on the front office is that they should have locked him up earlier but I do not feel bad at all that they did not involve themselves in this mess.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-02-2007, 09:52 PM

Do people have any idea what the idiots in the press would be saying right now if WE signed Dock to a deal that big? "Once again, the Redskins overpay ....blah, blah, blah."

As for Dock's wonderous agility, does anyone remember the Eagles game from 2005 at FexEx where Dock got turned around and tackled Portis? Portis was pissed and could be seen yelling at Dock.

bedlamVR · 03-02-2007, 10:03 PM

As JLC of the Washington Post was saying in his blog the team did try and resign him and was even looking a a deal similar to the one given to Jansen a few weeks back given the best OGs on the block were looking at $12m to sign and the Skins were offering in the region of $8-10 But this Bills deal is crazy, it is more than All Pro Chris Samuels at LT cost last time around and that wasn't that long ago... Sometimes I wonder what these pay scales are based on....

The other thing is these kinds of deals are unsustainable in the long term because right now we have the sling shot of the cap zooming up over the next few years thanks to the new TV deal but I cannot see how teams can pay and pay guys like this..

Hey how about that kid Killi he is back on the roster seem to remember him being a big kid doing quite well (for a late draft pick) untill the passing out thing

89moss89 · 03-02-2007, 10:04 PM

Way to much money for an average at best guard. I just wish that the Redskins wouldn't have traded all there draft picks over the last few years and had a good replacement waiting in the wings like most other teams do when the lose a player. Pretty good guards can be had in the 3rd and 4th round area.

bedlamVR · 03-02-2007, 10:05 PM

Portis did not like Dock... he ripped two players in the 980 post season interview and that was Lloyd - no supprise there and Dock....

wilsowilso · 03-02-2007, 10:28 PM

This deal is just wrong.

MTK · 03-02-2007, 10:35 PM

Dockery is a good player. Not a great player, and not a star.

He is making star money, and I'm glad we're not paying that kind of deal for once.

70Chip · 03-03-2007, 12:07 AM

What about moving Jansen inside? Any thoughts. I know Jacoby played some guard toward the end of his timre. I think Wade could replace Jansen anyhoo.

The other in-house options are what? Pucillo and who else? I can't remember. Ndukwe or something. And Ray Brown is standing by. Don't forget him. If he doesn't pan out I hear Raleigh Mckenzie has been working out with Ron Saul.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-03-2007, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 70Chip

What about moving Jansen inside? Any thoughts. I know Jacoby played some guard toward the end of his timre. I think Wade could replace Jansen anyhoo.

The other in-house options are what? Pucillo and who else? I can't remember. Ndukwe or something. And Ray Brown is standing by. Don't forget him. If he doesn't pan out I hear Raleigh Mckenzie has been working out with Ron Saul.

I hate to admit it, but I don't even know who Raleigh Mckenzie is. As for moving Jansen inside, I sort like the idea. Jansen seems to have trouble getting beat around the edges and moving him inside would mask that weakness.

RedskinPete · 03-03-2007, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I hate to admit it, but I don't even know who Raleigh Mckenzie is. As for moving Jansen inside, I sort like the idea. Jansen seems to have trouble getting beat around the edges and moving him inside would mask that weakness.

You must be a young one. I wish we had McKenzie and this Dock shit would be put to rest.

GiantsSuck703 · 03-03-2007, 01:49 AM

I really cant take it anymore, look at it like this, we had Dock last year and we were still a 5-11 team, why does anybody think Dock will single handidly change this, for christ sakes hes a guard, without a doubt the easiest position to replace on an NFL team. We need to spend the money on our defense, if we sign Dock back, then theres no Fletcher, no Smoot, and probably no Travis Fisher. That would leave us with no depth and no upgrades on defense, with that said, we would have one guard with a hell of a pay check and we would still have a horrible defense. Unless Dock can play DT or De or even MLB, well then i say good riddance

That Guy · 03-03-2007, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GiantsSuck703

I really cant take it anymore, look at it like this, we had Dock last year and we were still a 5-11 team, why does anybody think Dock will single handidly change this, for christ sakes hes a guard, without a doubt the easiest position to replace on an NFL team. We need to spend the money on our defense, if we sign Dock back, then theres no Fletcher, no Smoot, and probably no Travis Fisher. That would leave us with no depth and no upgrades on defense, with that said, we would have one guard with a hell of a pay check and we would still have a horrible defense. Unless Dock can play DT or De or even MLB, well then i say good riddance

what he said.

wilsowilso · 03-02-2007, 10:37 PM

What are the Bills thinking about????????????

MonkFan4Life · 03-02-2007, 10:48 PM

$49 mil over 7 years WITH $16 up front !?!?

I wanted him to sign here but if you can't sign him then you can't. I understand that the Skins have ost some guys that they have developed before but someone mentioned Champ. If memory serves me correctly Champ wanted to leave when Gibbs came back, so then they traded him to Denver. Maybe too much Ciroc and weed has my mind messed up but I thought that's how it went.

Seriously though, DOCK GOT THAT MUCH ??????

AND CLEMENTS GOT THAT MUCH ?!?!?!?

wilsowilso · 03-02-2007, 10:56 PM

A similar thing happened in the NBA like ten years ago. Juwan Howard got 100 million dollars because he happened to be a free agent as the salary cap changed in the nba and there was a windfall like this. For the next seven years people were like Juwan Howard has a 100 million dollar contract??? That's just so stupid.

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03-02-2007, 09:52 PM	#2
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Derrick Dockery signs with the Bills Do people have any idea what the idiots in the press would be saying right now if WE signed Dock to a deal that big? "Once again, the Redskins overpay ....blah, blah, blah." As for Dock's wonderous agility, does anyone remember the Eagles game from 2005 at FexEx where Dock got turned around and tackled Portis? Portis was pissed and could be seen yelling at Dock.

03-02-2007, 10:03 PM	#3
bedlamVR Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 389	Re: Derrick Dockery signs with the Bills As JLC of the Washington Post was saying in his blog the team did try and resign him and was even looking a a deal similar to the one given to Jansen a few weeks back given the best OGs on the block were looking at $12m to sign and the Skins were offering in the region of $8-10 But this Bills deal is crazy, it is more than All Pro Chris Samuels at LT cost last time around and that wasn't that long ago... Sometimes I wonder what these pay scales are based on.... The other thing is these kinds of deals are unsustainable in the long term because right now we have the sling shot of the cap zooming up over the next few years thanks to the new TV deal but I cannot see how teams can pay and pay guys like this.. Hey how about that kid Killi he is back on the roster seem to remember him being a big kid doing quite well (for a late draft pick) untill the passing out thing

03-02-2007, 10:04 PM	#4
89moss89 Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: PENNSYLVANIA Age: 58 Posts: 29	Re: Derrick Dockery signs with the Bills Way to much money for an average at best guard. I just wish that the Redskins wouldn't have traded all there draft picks over the last few years and had a good replacement waiting in the wings like most other teams do when the lose a player. Pretty good guards can be had in the 3rd and 4th round area.

03-02-2007, 10:05 PM	#5
bedlamVR Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 389	Re: Derrick Dockery signs with the Bills Portis did not like Dock... he ripped two players in the 980 post season interview and that was Lloyd - no supprise there and Dock....

03-02-2007, 10:28 PM	#6
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 52 Posts: 2,841	Re: Derrick Dockery signs with the Bills This deal is just wrong.

03-02-2007, 10:35 PM	#7
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Derrick Dockery signs with the Bills Dockery is a good player. Not a great player, and not a star. He is making star money, and I'm glad we're not paying that kind of deal for once. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-03-2007, 12:07 AM	#8
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 55 Posts: 3,048	Re: Derrick Dockery signs with the Bills What about moving Jansen inside? Any thoughts. I know Jacoby played some guard toward the end of his timre. I think Wade could replace Jansen anyhoo. The other in-house options are what? Pucillo and who else? I can't remember. Ndukwe or something. And Ray Brown is standing by. Don't forget him. If he doesn't pan out I hear Raleigh Mckenzie has been working out with Ron Saul. __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

03-03-2007, 01:49 AM	#11
GiantsSuck703 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 293	Re: Derrick Dockery signs with the Bills I really cant take it anymore, look at it like this, we had Dock last year and we were still a 5-11 team, why does anybody think Dock will single handidly change this, for christ sakes hes a guard, without a doubt the easiest position to replace on an NFL team. We need to spend the money on our defense, if we sign Dock back, then theres no Fletcher, no Smoot, and probably no Travis Fisher. That would leave us with no depth and no upgrades on defense, with that said, we would have one guard with a hell of a pay check and we would still have a horrible defense. Unless Dock can play DT or De or even MLB, well then i say good riddance

03-02-2007, 10:37 PM	#13
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 52 Posts: 2,841	Re: Derrick Dockery signs with the Bills What are the Bills thinking about????????????

03-02-2007, 10:48 PM	#14
MonkFan4Life The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 49 Posts: 1,851	Re: Derrick Dockery signs with the Bills $49 mil over 7 years WITH $16 up front !?!? I wanted him to sign here but if you can't sign him then you can't. I understand that the Skins have ost some guys that they have developed before but someone mentioned Champ. If memory serves me correctly Champ wanted to leave when Gibbs came back, so then they traded him to Denver. Maybe too much Ciroc and weed has my mind messed up but I thought that's how it went. Seriously though, DOCK GOT THAT MUCH ?????? AND CLEMENTS GOT THAT MUCH ?!?!?!? __________________ Catch me on YouTube ! http://www.youtube.com/user/DowntimeRB?feature=mhw5 The "punishment" by the league : "It's like getting a ticket for going too fast on a road a week ago and they changed the speed limit today"

03-02-2007, 10:56 PM	#15
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 52 Posts: 2,841	Re: Derrick Dockery signs with the Bills A similar thing happened in the NBA like ten years ago. Juwan Howard got 100 million dollars because he happened to be a free agent as the salary cap changed in the nba and there was a windfall like this. For the next seven years people were like Juwan Howard has a 100 million dollar contract??? That's just so stupid.

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