3/6/07 WP's JLC Rumors: Denver-Washington Trade, Bly, Okoye

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 03-09-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

rodger's combine speed was 4.44. his 3cone was pretty good.

that is still not slow so y does he get beat deep

holcknowsbest · 03-07-2007, 09:27 PM

i can promise you that 10 yrds off the ball is not a scheme thing.....there is no way a coach would call that unless he wanted to lose and give up the first down. 13 of those 17 produced much earlier....and champ didnt get beat deep as consistently....comparing champ and carlos is waerthless, although they were drafted at number 8 and 9 respectedly in the draft...yet another reason carlos isnt the player he should be or thought to be.....done arguing this point.....just admit it, i like him too but not letting him off the hook.

Redskin · 03-08-2007, 08:41 AM

Give Rogers one or two more years to prove himself and to grow up and get a little pass rush help, then we can be criticalon him for his short comings.

JoeRedskin · 03-08-2007, 09:26 AM

Or he could be the next Duane Starks.

Redskins8588 · 03-09-2007, 02:46 AM

In his first comment about the speculation that Dré Bly wants out of Denver, agent Kennard McGuire made a statement in an attempt to douse the rumor. "I have had nothing but positive dialogue with (Broncos coach) Mike Shanahan and (general manager) Ted Sundquist about Dré," McGuire said. "Dré understands that it is a compliment to be wanted. Neither Dré nor myself has said publicly that he is disenchanted. I understand why certain teams only allow the head coach to speak publicly. If Dré is so miserable or unhappy, it hasn't been publicly said by Dre or myself."

FOXSports.com - Ben Maller

So what is the truth here? Does Bly want out of Denver or not? Or is his agent just trying to make things look as if everything is just fine so that the Redskins wont have much leverage power for a trade?

That Guy · 03-09-2007, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Redskins8588

In his first comment about the speculation that Dré Bly wants out of Denver, agent Kennard McGuire made a statement in an attempt to douse the rumor. "I have had nothing but positive dialogue with (Broncos coach) Mike Shanahan and (general manager) Ted Sundquist about Dré," McGuire said. "Dré understands that it is a compliment to be wanted. Neither Dré nor myself has said publicly that he is disenchanted. I understand why certain teams only allow the head coach to speak publicly. If Dré is so miserable or unhappy, it hasn't been publicly said by Dre or myself."

FOXSports.com - Ben Maller

So what is the truth here? Does Bly want out of Denver or not? Or is his agent just trying to make things look as if everything is just fine so that the Redskins wont have much leverage power for a trade?

i don't think you can ever trust the word of an agent about anything related to their clients. Stating you're not happy with anything is generally considered to hurt marketability and value, so i think he's just covering his bases and profit margins.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-09-2007, 04:02 PM

Really, beyond the Minnesota game, when did he get burnt deep? When you look at GW's system, you might want to put some blame on Sean Taylor or Vernon Fox.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 03-09-2007, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Really, beyond the Minnesota game, when did he get burnt deep? When you look at GW's system, you might want to put some blame on Sean Taylor or Vernon Fox.

carlos got beat in several games dallas twice owens just dropped the ball and ST has better cover skills than rogers

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-09-2007, 04:06 PM

The zone they run, actually it's Taylor's fault. They rarely let Carlos or any corner for that matter run man-to-man throughout the entire season. Blame can be put on the entire secondary. When they DID run man-to-man, more often than not, Carlos totally shut down the other team's number one receiver.

And on a random note, we signed THIS guy:

He looks like someone Chris Hanson knows.

MonkFan4Life · 03-09-2007, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

The zone they run, actually it's Taylor's fault. They rarely let Carlos or any corner for that matter run man-to-man throughout the entire season. Blame can be put on the entire secondary. When they DID run man-to-man, more often than not, Carlos totally shut down the other team's number one receiver.

And on a random note, we signed THIS guy:

He looks like someone Chris Hanson knows.

This is tacklyguy4you and he's been having a chat with one of our decoys. Not too long into the chat he let's us know just what he's here about...

That Guy · 03-09-2007, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

When they DID run man-to-man, more often than not, Carlos totally shut down the other team's number one receiver.

that's REALLY stretching it.

part of his deep issues are because he tries to look at a receivers eyes to cue his jump instead of actually looking for the ball... that also leads to more PI calls as well.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-09-2007, 04:51 PM

I think that was more of a rarity than the rule, however, it was distressing to read that's how asshole Jackson is now teaching them rather than to react like the other coach did.

03-07-2007, 09:27 PM	#2
holcknowsbest Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 240	Re: 3/6/07 WP's JLC Rumors: Denver-Washington Trade, Bly, Okoye i can promise you that 10 yrds off the ball is not a scheme thing.....there is no way a coach would call that unless he wanted to lose and give up the first down. 13 of those 17 produced much earlier....and champ didnt get beat deep as consistently....comparing champ and carlos is waerthless, although they were drafted at number 8 and 9 respectedly in the draft...yet another reason carlos isnt the player he should be or thought to be.....done arguing this point.....just admit it, i like him too but not letting him off the hook.

03-08-2007, 08:41 AM	#3
Redskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: University of South Carolina Age: 36 Posts: 577	Re: 3/6/07 WP's JLC Rumors: Denver-Washington Trade, Bly, Okoye Give Rogers one or two more years to prove himself and to grow up and get a little pass rush help, then we can be criticalon him for his short comings. __________________ University Of South Carolina '11 Go Cocks and Go Skins #21#RIP Sean Taylor a TRUE Redskin#21# <--Hey wheres my green approval rating?

03-08-2007, 09:26 AM	#4
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: 3/6/07 WP's JLC Rumors: Denver-Washington Trade, Bly, Okoye Or he could be the next Duane Starks. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

03-09-2007, 02:46 AM	#5
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	Re: 3/6/07 WP's JLC Rumors: Denver-Washington Trade, Bly, Okoye In his first comment about the speculation that Dré Bly wants out of Denver, agent Kennard McGuire made a statement in an attempt to douse the rumor. "I have had nothing but positive dialogue with (Broncos coach) Mike Shanahan and (general manager) Ted Sundquist about Dré," McGuire said. "Dré understands that it is a compliment to be wanted. Neither Dré nor myself has said publicly that he is disenchanted. I understand why certain teams only allow the head coach to speak publicly. If Dré is so miserable or unhappy, it hasn't been publicly said by Dre or myself." FOXSports.com - Ben Maller So what is the truth here? Does Bly want out of Denver or not? Or is his agent just trying to make things look as if everything is just fine so that the Redskins wont have much leverage power for a trade? __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

03-09-2007, 04:02 PM	#7
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: 3/6/07 WP's JLC Rumors: Denver-Washington Trade, Bly, Okoye Really, beyond the Minnesota game, when did he get burnt deep? When you look at GW's system, you might want to put some blame on Sean Taylor or Vernon Fox. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-09-2007, 04:06 PM	#9
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: 3/6/07 WP's JLC Rumors: Denver-Washington Trade, Bly, Okoye The zone they run, actually it's Taylor's fault. They rarely let Carlos or any corner for that matter run man-to-man throughout the entire season. Blame can be put on the entire secondary. When they DID run man-to-man, more often than not, Carlos totally shut down the other team's number one receiver. And on a random note, we signed THIS guy: He looks like someone Chris Hanson knows. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-09-2007, 04:51 PM	#12
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: 3/6/07 WP's JLC Rumors: Denver-Washington Trade, Bly, Okoye I think that was more of a rarity than the rule, however, it was distressing to read that's how asshole Jackson is now teaching them rather than to react like the other coach did. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

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