Pacman suspended for entire 2007 season!

PSUSkinsFan21 · 04-10-2007, 06:33 PM

I think something that a lot of people are missing here is that while this may have been "Goodell's decision", there has been a lot of pressure from the players union itself for harsher punishments against repeat offenders like Pacman and Henry. You guys gotta realize, 90% of NFL players are solid, hard-working, decent, charitable individuals. That large majority doesn't want their reputations as a whole brought down by the very few who are, quite simply, too f-ing stupid to know how to behave. The players don't want the NFL to get the same kind of reputation as the NBA any more than Goodell does.

As for the legal issues, there is a collective bargaining agreement here that governs everything that the commissioner is doing. If the players union doesn't appeal, you can rest assured Goodell has not violated the terms of the CBA. If they do appeal, then maybe there is a question........but until they do, nobody on this board really has any reason to complain. The NFL and its players are free to conduct their business however they wish, and if they both want harsher penalties for illegal and idiotic behavior, then God bless 'em.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 04-10-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUSkinsFan21

You guys gotta realize, 90% of NFL players are solid, hard-working, decent, charitable individuals.

That's a good point that I frequently lose sight of.

GoSkins! · 04-10-2007, 06:56 PM

I think that most places can fire or suspend a person for anything the company feels is not in the best interest of the company (i.e. violating company policy). That includes having interoffice relationships (not a crime), not following safety rules (not a crime), saying "nappy headed ho" (not a crime). The NFL is a company. If the policy of the company is to require players to "avoid embarissing public behavior", then they have that right.

I'm tired of players using high-priced attorneys, paid for by the money they are paid from the NFL, to get them off of crimes any of us would get convicted for. Then to throw it back and say "but I wasn't convicted"... come on...

Kudos (with a 'K') to Goodell and the NFL.

skinsfan_nn · 04-10-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GoSkins!

I think that most places can fire or suspend a person for anything the company feels is not in the best interest of the company (i.e. violating company policy). That includes having interoffice relationships (not a crime), not following safety rules (not a crime), saying "nappy headed ho" (not a crime). The NFL is a company. If the policy of the company is to require players to "avoid embarissing public behavior", then they have that right.

I'm tired of players using high-priced attorneys, paid for by the money they are paid from the NFL, to get them off of crimes any of us would get convicted for. Then to throw it back and say "but I wasn't convicted"... come on...

Kudos (with a 'K') to Goodell and the NFL.

Nicely put, GoSkins! That 'K' REALLY looks NICE!

GoSkins! · 04-10-2007, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

That's a good point that I frequently lose sight of.

That's cause hard working and decent players rarely make headlines in the off season.

I think that the NFL should keep track of player conduct and keep a list that will be announced all at once so as to minimize the plublicity any one player can get from the suspension.

jsarno · 04-10-2007, 07:11 PM

It's only fair that he gets suspended...if any of us did that in our REAL jobs, we'd be fired...not suspended. Why do athletes get special priviledges and millions of dollars to play a freakin GAME? Then they behave poorly? I for one am thrilled the NFL did this, and hope the other major sports take note.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 04-10-2007, 07:00 PM

I see your point jdlea, but I don't pity a guy who's been privileged his whole life and gets just a taste of the kind of rules the rest of us deal with and abide by.

jdlea · 04-10-2007, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I see your point jdlea, but I don't pity a guy who's been privileged his whole life and gets just a taste of the kind of rules the rest of us deal with and abide by.

That's your prerogative. I'm not really trying to sway anyone. I kinda feel like, if a guy gets arrested a couple times, he messed up. A guy gets arrested like 10 or whatever it's been for Pacman, he's messed up. I feel sorry for him. I think a lot of people contributed to his life being screwed up almost as much as he screwed it up himself. He needs some help, I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished, but I believe the NFL should consider finding a way to help him get his life straightened out. He screwed up his own life, but I still feel sorry for him.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 04-10-2007, 07:04 PM

NFL Network just reported that Jones could be suspended for a longer period if he is charged with a crime in the Vegas incident. They also read the letter Goodell sent to Jones and Henry and man was it harsh.

skinsfan_nn · 04-10-2007, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

NFL Network just reported that Jones could be suspended for a longer period if he is charged with a crime in the Vegas incident. They also read the letter Goodell sent to Jones and Henry and man was it harsh.

I caught the same thing on ESPN with CM. They better not screw up or it could be a short lived career?

TANK your next!

724Skinsfan · 04-10-2007, 08:41 PM

I'm hoping for a trickle down effect that stems from this new policy. It's possible that high school and college coaches can now use this indirectly for their discipline tool.

Example dialog...

"Hey Keith, look, I know you like going out and having a good time. Heck, if I had a nickel for every time I got drunk and stopped by the cops I wouldn't need this job coaching {chuckle, chuckle}. But, I didn't have the gifted athleticism like you do. You know the pro's have a real tough policy when it comes to these sort of things now and believe they are serious about it. I want you to have the best future possible and, man, I'd hate to not have the opportunity see that talent running wild on Sunday afternoon's all because you drank too much and decided to drive just a few blocks back to your apartment. Next time, give me a call and i'll take you home."

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 04-10-2007, 07:19 PM

Interesting commentary from a former NFL laywer on NFL Network.

GoSkins! · 04-10-2007, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Interesting commentary from a former NFL laywer on NFL Network.

whats a laywer?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 04-10-2007, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GoSkins!

whats a laywer?

Someone who is almost a lawyer, but is too sloppy to catch dumb spelling mistakes.

skinsfan_nn · 04-10-2007, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Someone who is almost a lawyer, but is too sloppy to catch dumb spelling mistakes.

Sorry SGG, I watchin him like a HAWK, you just type faster than I do.
Spelling Susp****** coming up? Time out this time.......GoSkins!

04-10-2007, 06:33 PM	#1
PSUSkinsFan21 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Philadelphia, PA Age: 49 Posts: 1,340	Re: Pacman suspended for entire 2007 season! I think something that a lot of people are missing here is that while this may have been "Goodell's decision", there has been a lot of pressure from the players union itself for harsher punishments against repeat offenders like Pacman and Henry. You guys gotta realize, 90% of NFL players are solid, hard-working, decent, charitable individuals. That large majority doesn't want their reputations as a whole brought down by the very few who are, quite simply, too f-ing stupid to know how to behave. The players don't want the NFL to get the same kind of reputation as the NBA any more than Goodell does. As for the legal issues, there is a collective bargaining agreement here that governs everything that the commissioner is doing. If the players union doesn't appeal, you can rest assured Goodell has not violated the terms of the CBA. If they do appeal, then maybe there is a question........but until they do, nobody on this board really has any reason to complain. The NFL and its players are free to conduct their business however they wish, and if they both want harsher penalties for illegal and idiotic behavior, then God bless 'em. __________________ "Hail to the Redskins!" and "Fight on State!"

04-10-2007, 06:56 PM	#3
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 57 Posts: 1,587	Re: Pacman suspended for entire 2007 season! I think that most places can fire or suspend a person for anything the company feels is not in the best interest of the company (i.e. violating company policy). That includes having interoffice relationships (not a crime), not following safety rules (not a crime), saying "nappy headed ho" (not a crime). The NFL is a company. If the policy of the company is to require players to "avoid embarissing public behavior", then they have that right. I'm tired of players using high-priced attorneys, paid for by the money they are paid from the NFL, to get them off of crimes any of us would get convicted for. Then to throw it back and say "but I wasn't convicted"... come on... Kudos (with a 'K') to Goodell and the NFL. __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

04-10-2007, 07:11 PM	#6
jsarno Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 31 Spooner St. Age: 51 Posts: 9,534	Re: Pacman suspended for entire 2007 season! It's only fair that he gets suspended...if any of us did that in our REAL jobs, we'd be fired...not suspended. Why do athletes get special priviledges and millions of dollars to play a freakin GAME? Then they behave poorly? I for one am thrilled the NFL did this, and hope the other major sports take note. __________________ Zoltan is ZESTY! - courtesy of joeredskin

04-10-2007, 07:00 PM	#7
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Pacman suspended for entire 2007 season! I see your point jdlea, but I don't pity a guy who's been privileged his whole life and gets just a taste of the kind of rules the rest of us deal with and abide by.

04-10-2007, 07:04 PM	#9
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Pacman suspended for entire 2007 season! NFL Network just reported that Jones could be suspended for a longer period if he is charged with a crime in the Vegas incident. They also read the letter Goodell sent to Jones and Henry and man was it harsh.

04-10-2007, 08:41 PM	#11
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Pacman suspended for entire 2007 season! I'm hoping for a trickle down effect that stems from this new policy. It's possible that high school and college coaches can now use this indirectly for their discipline tool. Example dialog... "Hey Keith, look, I know you like going out and having a good time. Heck, if I had a nickel for every time I got drunk and stopped by the cops I wouldn't need this job coaching {chuckle, chuckle}. But, I didn't have the gifted athleticism like you do. You know the pro's have a real tough policy when it comes to these sort of things now and believe they are serious about it. I want you to have the best future possible and, man, I'd hate to not have the opportunity see that talent running wild on Sunday afternoon's all because you drank too much and decided to drive just a few blocks back to your apartment. Next time, give me a call and i'll take you home." __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

04-10-2007, 07:19 PM	#12
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 8,317	Re: Pacman suspended for entire 2007 season! Interesting commentary from a former NFL laywer on NFL Network.

Pacman suspended for entire 2007 season!

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