Wacks the political Bee's Nest

[That Guy]

Did i state that it was okay? i said specificly that it sucks right there, I don't know how I could make that more clear.

kerry's campaign had someone stealing high security files, IS THAT OKAY????? no, its not, but shit happens and no ones perfect or accountable for the thousands working on their behalf.

and again, whether the evidence supported invasion is not a question i answered, though you seem to think that i did... i was just pointing out that there was at least *some* validity to such statements. Honestly, if you've ever been to a desert, it looks the same for miles around... very barren, and even if there were something buried there, it'd be very difficult to find (though you figure a local or two would've offered up locations for cash by now).

to delay a bi-partisan report that proves his administration's manipulations of intelligence for their own agenda till after his election?

btw, how do you know what it proves? did you read it? I thought you said it wasn't released yet. I rather hear it and make a decision than just assume blatant guilt. Or else I could just as easily say something like it proves that this is all really clinton's fault, and i bet it'd get you a little upset, and may very well prove unfounded later on.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by That Guy

btw, how do you know what it proves? did you read it? I thought you said it wasn't released yet. I rather hear it and make a decision than just assume blatant guilt. Or else I could just as easily say something like it proves that this is all really clinton's fault, and i bet it'd get you a little upset, and may very well prove unfounded later on.

guilty, i havent read it. just trying to use some FOREsight this time, based on the record of this administration thus far (and the fact he wants it delayed), instead of the hindsight that people on this board are so dismissive of.

[That Guy]

that's not foresight though, that's speculation why i've been dismissive of hindsight is because, at the time the build up was occurring, very few people were speaking out against invading, and now many of the people that agreed think its a bad idea. There's no problem with changing minds, but faulting people for a view that was shared (at the time) is a bit tough to swallow (though you very well may have said its a horrible idea back then, i kinda figured our reconstruction would be bad based on afghanistan).

[illdefined]

you kidding? TONS of people thought the war (especially the approach to it) was a very bad idea, and were VERY vocal about it. if you mean in congress, the nation was going to war with or without congressional approval, so politically they had to acquiesce and portray a unified front.

i'd say what Bush ultimately did was speculate also, only with thousands of lives at stake. a not-so-educated guess.

[Sammy Baugh Fan]

I was for the War and gld it went forward.
Did I want people to sie not but I want the world at large to be a better and safer place.
It is. We disagree

peace

[Sammy Baugh Fan]

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