Brady's Bedtime Buddies

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Trust me. I will be all over this board when Randy has 1000 yards in week 10.

Just make sure that you have a hanky ready for when you splurge. You have the biggest man crush I have ever seen over a player.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by angryssg

Just make sure that you have a hanky ready for when you splurge. You have the biggest man crush I have ever seen over a player.

I tell it like it is. I don't even like Randy Moss but I cannot deny pure talent.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I tell it like it is. I don't even like Randy Moss but I cannot deny pure talent.

The funny thin is that I was arguing your point of view to Jsarno the night before last. Now I am giving you shit about something I actually agree with you on. I was only making the statement that those 2 receivers bring something uniquely different to the table. Randy is better, he will break at least 1300 yards, but he is not God!

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

I have nothing else to say. Watch Randy play this year and talk to me 12 months from now. Just like my Keyshawn point last year.

I will take any bet on the side that Randy has more TD's and yards than Santana in 2007. Anyone willing to put their money where their mouth is, private message me.

randy might very well end up with better stats then santanna but that doesn't make randy the better wr. i'd take tom brady over jason campbell as my qb. the pats just have a better offense then the skins do, maybe not better players but definately a more productive offense.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Ok. You have some solid points with the flexibility of the NE offense, and having a QB of Brady's caliber certainly gives them that flexibility, but spreading the defense out does not necessarily imply aggression. I mean they can be and usually are very safe and smart with their throws, and it's a credit to Tom Brady's patience as a QB.

And Mark Brunell certainly did not display the same level of patience as Brady did this year, but that was as much a function of some inconsistent protection as it was with age and fragility.

But once given the clear differences between a great 28 year old QB in the prime of his career and a once great 36 year old QB in the twilight of his career, its still not hard to see that they do a lot of stuff similar, even this year. Brady is obviously in a better situation as far as system and protection goes, whereas Brunell is in a better situation after the completion with guys like Moss and Cooley who excell after the catch.

Both guys do a great job in taking what the defense gives them. That doesn't translate to wins if you have the 32nd ranked defense, but both guys do their jobs.

Replace "Brady's" with "Brunell's" and the statement stays accurate. I mean, the term "great" is quite subjective, but as far as 36 year old QBs go, I'd say Brunell is great for his age.

"and a once great 36 year old qb" Are u serious? I loved Brunell's game in his prime. He was a poor man's Steve Young. But he was never a great QB. I know you love the guy to death but keep it real.

[dmek25]

how did this thread last so long without a picture of the 2 beautiful women? thats right, hessy and ladybrave. you guys thought i was talking about someone else?

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by dmek25

how did this thread last so long without a picture of the 2 beautiful women? thats right, hessy and ladybrave. you guys thought i was talking about someone else?

Did he knock them up too?

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

Trust me. I will be all over this board when Randy has 1000 yards in week 10.

You might be all over the board but not for that......That isn't happenin

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

"and a once great 36 year old qb" Are u serious? I loved Brunell's game in his prime. He was a poor man's Steve Young. But he was never a great QB. I know you love the guy to death but keep it real.

Great to me does not mean hall of famer for the record. I'm guessing it does to you, but let's not assume that because I'm calling a guy great, I'm stamping his ticket to Canton.

Brunell in his prime was certainly great, IMO. He would probably rank in the top 40 all time, part because good QBs were rare prior to the Young, Marino, Elway era. He's still capable of doing good things, and did a lot for this team last year, but you and I both know hes best suited to be a backup now.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

randy might very well end up with better stats then santanna but that doesn't make randy the better wr. i'd take tom brady over jason campbell as my qb. the pats just have a better offense then the skins do, maybe not better players but definately a more productive offense.

Yeah, WR stats in general are very problematic. All the popular ones like catches and yards are 90% a combination of the system they are in and the tendencies of the QB. However, guys who are consistenly at the top of the league are probably as good as billed. Just don't crown Marcus Colston yet...you don't know if hes going to be the next Michael Clayton.

The one good measure for a WR is how many yards he averages after the catch. A great WR will be at the top of the league in YAC, and a good receiver will be average at YAC. That is the true decider of WR talent.

Not to say that everything that happens before the catch isn't important, but a good QB will always try to hit the open man, so the "ability to get open" for a receiver is more about the type of coverage he is facing than about any special skill he has.

Any receiver in the league can beat man to man coverage a good percentage of the time. It's why blitzing can only be effective if the QB gets pressured. If he gets off a good pass, every CB in the league is screwed.

[holmester]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, they certainly are the best team in their division again this year. They are one of the teams to beat in the AFC, but certainly CERTAINLY are not a better team than SD right now. Jacksonville, might be better, and Pittsburgh and Cincinnati are maybe just as good, and the Colts aren't just going to go away.

The Pats are NOT the favorite to win the SB, but they will be back in the playoffs again this year...so it wouldn't be completely shocking if they won it.

Are you high on aderol??? Jacksonville maybe better? Whos there starting qb again? When the Jags beat Houston let me know. And im not even gonna get into Pittsburgh who could quite possibly come in last in their division.

[holmester]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, they've definately done a great job in March and April for about 6 consecutive seasons now. They have strong, intelligent management.

But that's all that seperates teams like NE, Philly, and SD from the rest of the league. They aren't any more likely to luck into wins than any other team.

Some article I was reading made a great point. The Eagles are just the NE Patriots without the lucky bounces. Both teams have done an excellent job building their franchises, but when it comes to clutch situations, Philly gets hosed and the Pats pull a rabbit out of a hat.

And as a confirmed Eagle hater, I'm glad. But eventually, NE's luck will run out on them.

And when luck whens you 3 out of 4 superbowls let me know so i can shove a rabbits foot up leprechauns ass and then shove that leprechaun up Snyders ass.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by holmester

And when luck whens you 3 out of 4 superbowls let me know so i can shove a rabbits foot up leprechauns ass and then shove that leprechaun up Snyders ass.

There has been way too much talk about asses in the Warpath recently. Did we sign Jeff Garcia?

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

There has been way too much talk about asses in the Warpath recently. Did we sign Jeff Garcia?

Why do you like him

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by holmester

Are you high on aderol??? Jacksonville maybe better? Whos there starting qb again? When the Jags beat Houston let me know. And im not even gonna get into Pittsburgh who could quite possibly come in last in their division.

By the same logic, whats to say NE won't get screwed by injuries and end up in last?