Why all the complaining?

[DynamiteRave]

I pointed this out in the game thread, but it seems as if the fans are getting tired of being turned on and then turned off.

Turned on by games like Detroit and Philly. And then turned off by games like GB and today where they almost gave up a big lead.

I had never heard so many, loud noticeable boo's at FedEx like that so far this season. And not just booing for penalties and bad calls but booing at 3 and outs. I mean I can get pretty negative from time to time but even that made me feel a little disheartened.

I mean if I'm out there on the field playing or if I'm on the coaching staff, it's gotta hit you deep that your own fans are booing at you cause they start to lose faith in you. It must be pretty hard trying to ignore the voice of 85,000+.

[Luxorreb]

I'm not complaining.
We won.
And that is ok.
I do question our finishing moves.
Enjoy the W!!!
We'll be lucky to get one next week...

[FRPLG]

JWSleep and I laid out exactly what the offensive philosophy was yesterday. If you're are wondering why Moss only had 2 catches it is because we couldn't pass protect. Anyone remember when we tried to throw downfield under Spurrier and we had pass protection? Yeah we lost those games and our QBs were sore for the rest of the week.

[redsk1]

Yes, our o-line is decimated. Yes, you're putting some new faces out there. I just question our decision making/gameplanning/adjustments/playcalling or whatever you want to call it. We tried to give the game away, by some ultra conservative play. How about a rollout? How about a shotgun (i don't remember seeing it although i can't be sure)? I just got the feeling we were in shutdown mode again. Our offense can't leave the D on the field as long as they did and expect to keep a good offense down.

No question our oline couldn't run block & couldn't protect that well. IMO there comes a time when you just gotta go for it a little bit and try to win the game. We didn't and escaped.

I am happy we got a W b/c we've lost a couple of games that we should have won. 4-2...not bad at all, but we're not going anywhere w/out any offense.

[BigSKINBauer]

i like skin fans better when we are losing and delusional.

[skinsnut]

Use Shotgun 40% of the time, rollout 20% of the time, throw first to get a rythm to set up the run. Use shotgun draws, hurry up offense, quick counts....anything different.
No more reverses or anything that takes time behind the line.

Our line sucks...they better changes offensive philosophy now.
Campbell is good enough to sling it deep.

Yes, there will be a pick every game, but if you throw deep, with our D, it is essentially a punt anyways.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Use Shotgun 40% of the time, rollout 20% of the time, throw first to get a rythm to set up the run. Use shotgun draws, hurry up offense, quick counts....anything different.
No more reverses or anything that takes time behind the line.

Our line sucks...they better changes offensive philosophy now.
Campbell is good enough to sling it deep.

Yes, there will be a pick every game, but if you throw deep, with our D, it is essentially a punt anyways.

This is what I'm talking about!!!! We don't do any of this. Ever!!!!!

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Use Shotgun 40% of the time

Don't know why we didn't do this more but maybe it was because we had a backup center in there. Anyways I always love the "Use the shotgun to counteract our bad pass protection" scheme. It doesn't work as well as many would like to believe. It allows the QB to be set earlier but it doesn't give him any more time than dropping back.

rollout 20% of the time,

This still requires the same amount of pass protection, just in a different matter. Our guys had trouble blocking the guy right in front of them. Why rolling out on a regular basis and requiring them to block in space would help is beyond me.

throw first to get a rythm to set up the run.

Yes throw first to the 2 WR we have down field right in the middle of the Cover 2 they are running. That makes sense. Don't do anything to bring the safeties up and require the LBs to stay out of coverage. That wouldn't make a lick of sense. Let me get on the phone and call the other 31 teams and make sure they know this new found way to achieve offensive success.

Use shotgun draws, hurry up offense, quick counts....anything different.

Gimmicks do not an offense make.

No more reverses or anything that takes time behind the line.

Agreed

Our line sucks...they better changes offensive philosophy now.

It has. This is what it has changed to.

Campbell is good enough to sling it deep.

With 2 guys haning on him every time? I didn't know JC stood for Jesus Christ because he is who we'd need in there at QB in that case.

Yes, there will be a pick every game, but if you throw deep, with our D, it is essentially a punt anyways.

Try 3 picks and 2 fumbles. And a loss.


You ideas are simple minded and wont work.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Use Shotgun 40% of the time, rollout 20% of the time, throw first to get a rythm to set up the run. Use shotgun draws, hurry up offense, quick counts....anything different.
No more reverses or anything that takes time behind the line.

Our line sucks...they better changes offensive philosophy now.
Campbell is good enough to sling it deep.

Yes, there will be a pick every game, but if you throw deep, with our D, it is essentially a punt anyways.

Wow and to think your not even a coach!! You must have been over looked!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Wow and to think your not even a coach!! You must have been over looked!

Hey, he probably runs his own Madden franchise. Doesn't that count for something?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Hey, he probably runs his own Madden franchise. Doesn't that count for something?

Sorry, I didn't think of that. He might play fantasy football.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Why all the complaining?

You aren't serious are you? After an offensive performance like that and you don't understand why people might complain. Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled we won the game as I'm sure everyone is, BUT...Hell, even the Skins offensive players will tell you they are embarrassed by the way the offense played yesterday. Something has to give, and I won't put it all on the banged up offensive line. There's more to it than that.

We have a great defense, but a couple more games like this and the defense will be worn out, then we'll have no offense or defense. I mean it's like the defense is playing two games in one every week as much as they are on the field.

[skinsfan242]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Why all the complaining?

You aren't serious are you? After an offensive performance like that and you don't understand why people might complain. Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled we won the game as I'm sure everyone is, BUT...Hell, even the Skins offensive players will tell you they are embarrassed by the way the offense played yesterday. Something has to give, and I won't put it all on the banged up offensive line. There's more to it than that.

We have a great defense, but a couple more games like this and the defense will be worn out, then we'll have no offense or defense. I mean it's like the defense is playing two games in one every week as much as they are on the field.

I am serious. Everyone complains not matter what happens. We were 5-11 last year, and now we complain when we WIN a game. Nobody gives the other team credit at all. They played hard shut us down in the second half. The consistently blitzed up the Middle and Campbell had no time to throw the ball. The coaches knew that and tried to catch them in a blitz, it didn't work. We didn't play they way we can but we are still 4-2.

Our QB is the real deal our Defense is real good and if not for two STUPID penalties the Cardinals would have never been close. Sure you can make a case about the play calling but how do you know what they called? They could have been trying to open it up Campbell had no time so he checked down.

People complain about things they don't even understand and it is annoying, you would think the fact we WON the game would help but it doesn't. These are all the same people who wrote us off before the season and now think we should be blowing out everyone we play. It is clear our Oline is struggling and to win without argulably the most important Oline man against a good Defense should make people happy.

[The Zimmermans]

Why all the complaining??? cause the fans are fed up with all the BS that is going on?? Gibbs needs to let saunders build his own gameplan that fits his playbook

[scowan]

Positives from yeterday.... We won and no one else got injuried as far as we know. If Rabach and the other O-linemen can get healthier before next week, we should be better all the way around. I am not saying the Skins will win, but they should be better. By the way, the D is great, you just can't leave them out there all day and expect them to shut down the other team for 60 minutes. They have to have some help.